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When I look at the Forums?, I see an overwhelming (but reasonably adequate) list of technical issues and discussions

It basically resembles (and I believe is) a computer technical forum !

But then I see these continual non-technical new threads (really there are now at least 3 members that post news totally unrelated to anything else across the forums

How is this thread: Wisconsin Shopper Kills Two Would-be Robbers, in any way remotely related to technical issues

Its not even technical news!!

I'm pretty positive that when the forum (The Hum's Real World News) was first made, it was likely made because of the many news and interesting articles on computer technical issues

But if you decide to click on that forum and just scan the list of topics there. You will see at least 30 (THIRTY) new topics today, and nothing what-so-ever in relation to computer technical news, or even just tech news in general. The list just goes on and on about, well, basically S#it !

The above thread I quoted (and really I could quote any) Has members responding about they'd shoot the robbers too ?!

What? Is this where all the youtube posters go when they're not replying with rubbish on that site?

I find the forum (in its entirety) to be a load of rubbish, and total waste of an excellent tech forum, lists of posts for today

These "news" stories (that I or anyone could just go read general news anywhere) seem to becoming more and more often on Neowin.net

Is Neowin going to allow this to take over? Because I have to say that its nearly happened (wouldn't take too much for 5 more members to start posting more rubbish)

Maybe (just maybe) if the forum could be set up for tech news, that could be ok.

But personally I feel that there is zero reason for having such a sub forum, and the specific members constantly sourcing this "news" to post here at Neowin (you know a computer tech and discussion forum)

But here I am trying to get a dedicated Virus and Malware removal forum going on (not software discussion by the way)

Which could easily help thousands of members into the future. And its computer technical related !

And I am basically told No. But this "Real World News" exists? And what are all these threads exactly? They're a Copy and Paste, from some "source", with no other original OP thread creator, input at all

Next they will be creating topics on the world weather. May as well, its news isn't it?

Its just not computer news.

EDIT:

In the last 20mins there have been a minimum of 15 new Real World News threads (obviously non technical)

Now come on, enough is enough.

What it looks like to me is a hell of a lot unanswered threads. I'm sure that's what any new member would think too

I should have polled this thread of mine. I'm basically sick of this rubbish are you?

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Neowin forums are mainly based around technology and there is a focus on technology, but there is a place to discuss anything here. I don't see a problem with that? We have to cater for everyone and users of a technology community wouldn't only like to discuss issues relating to technology. We have people asking for personal advice here, people selling things, Rappy informing us all of brilliant movies and TV programmes... if the administration decided to get rid of anything in Neowin which wasn't related to technology, I know I wouldn't enjoy it as much.

What's wrong with you skipping past the forums you don't wish to read and read the technology ones? We do have an appropriate place for everything to do with technology, so what's wrong with not reading the other stuff if you don't like it? I can guarantee the majority do like it.

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I'm pretty positive that when the forum (The Hum's Real World News) was first made, it was likely made because of the many news and interesting articles on computer technical issues

The fact that it's called Hum's Real World News says to me that its likely to be news of a real world nature, as in current events, not necessarily tech news. It does what it says on the tin.

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It has only been brought to my attention because there seems to be way too much of this "news" of late

When I check Latest Forum Activity I have seen too much of this. It is actually getting in the way

I feel that if someone checks the forums they may go elsewhere to post a computer tech related issue

I also feel that some members are not involving themselves with any of the "technical" part of Neowin, and just posting on these threads (or creating them!)

Its just too much I feel.

For me to find the computer related topics is increasingly difficult, in my view. Latest Forum Activity is not working well anymore

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Beat me to it O.G :D

The fact that it's called Hum's Real World News says to me that its likely to be news of a real world nature, as in current events, not necessarily tech news. It does what it says on the tin.

+1. :hmmm:

No offense though, kimsland (Y)

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Getting in the way of what exactly? People discussing things? This is a public forum, where people discuss things. All different kinds of things.

Good point

What is the Neowin mission statement

Maybe this is not a computer forum?

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I also feel that some members are not involving themselves with any of the "technical" part of Neowin, and just posting on these threads (or creating them!)

Well I don't see why somebody should try and post in the technology sections if they know nothing about technology or aren't very good with it, unless they are asking for help maybe? Neowin isn't just for people in the know when it comes to technology.

As for your issue with the 'latest forum activity' box, you may have a point - if you find the' latest forum activity' box does not show enough technology-related threads, you could always suggest to the administration that they remove certain forums from there, within this thread. It is possible to remove certain forums from the 'latest forum activity' box, but I know I wouldn't like that. Maybe we could see what the administration think, if you are suggesting that?

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Neowin: Diversity (is) Our Strength.*

This site's primary focus is the same as it was in the beginning, about Windows betas. But of course nowadays it's a news, jokes, entertainment, software, political, sporting, etc. forum all under one roof. And it works, for the most part. Some of the members hang out exclusively in just one forum. Some are heavy contributors to certain subsections, such as Real World News. To boot them out in order to make this strictly a tech forum is highly unfair.

Those who come to seek technical assistance and those who are willing to help would know what subforums to look under anyways. There are also RSS feeds for specific forums if you want to keep tabs on a specific subsection.

*bonus points if you can figure out where this came from. no cheating!

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Neowin is like a gas station that used to only serve Gas and auto related products, but due to customer demand have moved into areas that have no relevance to the original setup. So in comparison, whereas 20 years ago you couldn't count on your local gas station for toilet paper at any time of the day or night, we can be counted on for non technical topics in dedicated areas.

My advice is, just like the gas station where the 4 pack of toilet paper might cost way more than it would in your local superstore. Don't use the gas station for that then, just like here. The areas are dedicated for a reason, so they don't get in the way of the tech areas that we ultimately started out with.

:)

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I have to agree with the OP in a lot of his points. I too would like to see more tech-related discussion going and think it'd be great to have a virus/malware removal forum to help people out. But I guess people are making valid points that this is a public forum and there are a lot of sub-forums for almost anything you want to talk about.

What would be great is if (as people in other posts have suggested) we could choose which posts based on forums appear in the latest forum activity module. This would solve a bit of the problem.

As for the virus/malware removal forum idea I decided to post a poll on it and hopefully if it gets enough votes it'll be made: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=814034

But yeah, your post reminds me of what Digg has become (which used to be mostly about tech-related news). Now its infested with daily images/videos/daily mail crap/memes rather than tech news and programming. Sure you can go to specific categories you like but now its a lot harder to find quality posts/info that is tech-related (on Digg).

And yeah when I first went to the Hums forum I was surprised that people just copy and paste articles a lot of times rather than give any deep thought/discussion to the topic.

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i agree with kimsland to some extent but then yes neowin has to cater users from all around. but then excluding some forums from latest forum activity would be definitely nice feature to begin with (may be users are provided with option to customize on their own?).

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I actually somewhat agree with you, although general topic discussion is allowed on Neowin. Maybe just have 1 or 2 main topics daily in the Real World News, eg; "9/11 Attacks", or "Osama Assassinated"..

There's no real need for unrelated bs, such as "kitten saved from tree" or whatever.

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I actually somewhat agree with you, although general topic discussion is allowed on Neowin. Maybe just have 1 or 2 main topics daily in the Real World News, eg; "9/11 Attacks", or "Osama Assassinated"..

There's no real need for unrelated bs, such as "kitten saved from tree" or whatever.

You say an article like "Kitten saved from tree" is unrelated, but unrelated to what? How is it more unrelated than "9/11 attacks"? None of those relate directly to technology. Do you see my point? Why limit the 'Real World News' section to only a couple of news stories a day and the most important news stories? What benefit would that provide? As far as I can see it only provides a drawback - less interesting news for some of us to read. I subscribe to the 'Real World News' section because I find most of the stories very interesting.

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They could always give us the ability to control the latest activity section?

like i could select all forums i'm interested in and only the latest from those forums will appear in the "latest activity section" just for me? that way we can see all the latest thats relevant to us that way not everyone suffers by only seeing tech related articles in the latest news section...

may my post be as confusing to read it as it was to write it :p

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The reason we have no virus/malware removal forum is because we already have a lot of subforums, and a lot of new members already find the forum structure confusing. We don't take the "Build it, and they will come" approach, we prefer to wait and see if there is an actual demand for something before creating it. This would be measured by the number of posts on the subject in the existing relevant forums, and there just simply isn't enough at this point in time to warrant a subforum just for virus/malware removal.

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They could always give us the ability to control the latest activity section?

like i could select all forums i'm interested in and only the latest from those forums will appear in the "latest activity section" just for me? that way we can see all the latest thats relevant to us that way not everyone suffers by only seeing tech related articles in the latest news section...

may my post be as confusing to read it as it was to write it :p

this is exactly i wanted & had posted previously. it would be great to track only sub-forums we like.

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Neowin: Diversity Our Strength.

Haha, Toronto. lol.

Anyways, I agree there sometimes there is a bit of a flood in that section, but I enjoy it, as the section seems to have all the quirky stuff I wouldn't have come across otherwise.

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Neowin: Diversity (is) Our Strength.*

*bonus points if you can figure out where this came from. no cheating!

The Office? No... Michael Scott never said that... but he did say that if you were a racist, he would invade you from the north.

Anywho, this has been brought up many, many times and the sections are here to stay.

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Neowin is like a gas station that used to only serve Gas and auto related products, but due to customer demand have moved into areas that have no relevance to the original setup. So in comparison, whereas 20 years ago you couldn't count on your local gas station for toilet paper at any time of the day or night, we can be counted on for non technical topics in dedicated areas.

My advice is, just like the gas station where the 4 pack of toilet paper might cost way more than it would in your local superstore. Don't use the gas station for that then, just like here. The areas are dedicated for a reason, so they don't get in the way of the tech areas that we ultimately started out with.

:)

Maybe a "Hide non-tech related forums" option? But again, is there a demand for that option?

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Maybe a "Hide non-tech related forums" option? But again, is there a demand for that option?

They're all categorised together, so anyone wanting to do so, can simply collapse those categories.

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It has only been brought to my attention because there seems to be way too much of this "news" of late

When I check Latest Forum Activity I have seen too much of this. It is actually getting in the way

I feel that if someone checks the forums they may go elsewhere to post a computer tech related issue

I also feel that some members are not involving themselves with any of the "technical" part of Neowin, and just posting on these threads (or creating them!)

Its just too much I feel.

For me to find the computer related topics is increasingly difficult, in my view. Latest Forum Activity is not working well anymore

I don't see the problem. If you are looking for something specific just use the search function or actually navigate to the forum that the topic should logically reside in. A lot of people enjoy the RWI and non-tech forums, and I see no need to remove them. One of the great strengths of any community is that it can bring in people from all different walks of life and get them having discussions with each other about topics that interest them. Catering to a wider audience is never a bad thing.

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They're all categorised together, so anyone wanting to do so, can simply collapse those categories.

I think Andrew was specifically referring to the 'latest forum activity' box when he suggested that option, seeing as kimsland and a few others have stated they'd prefer to see only tech-related threads appear in that box.

I think if it could be implemented as an option, it would please a fair amount of people, but I'd hate if the 'latest forum activity' was set to only show tech-related threads and there was no option to show threads from all forums the box currently shows.

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