bedneyshields Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 i know a lot of you just like myself have been there for tgtsoft since the beginning and with our support have really started this whole thing snowballing and know over a couple of bucks they want to turn their backs on us!! I love the program but don"t think I really did to pay to have a visual on my personal computer. If I can"t find a way to make it work without them I WILL LOOK TO OTHER METHODS OF SKINNING!!! not wb3 though tried it to slow and the themes are not there yet. thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnifeFace Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 and if u go to TGTsoft download site you will find two versions.. in the top is styleXPplus with the more 'content' and underneath it is the small one StyleXP with 'minimum functionality & smaller download than Style XP Plus' is that 4.1? I'm a bit confused. and are Style XP beta 1 & 2 shareware? I still have them somewhere on my harddrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Hey KaosAd just do a search on google for uxtheme hack. You shuold be able to figure it out yourself since you cannot read the entire thread where I actually posted a freaking link for people to use the hacked uxtheme.dll of my own creation. I setup the server to track Downloads and once there was 501 downloads, the file was pulled. 501 who I hope are still not whining about how cheated they were by a business founded to make money. How novel. I just cannot get over the total gall of people wasting so much energy complaining about this when it is so freaking easy to circumvent legally. "Blah Blah Blah we were lied to," it's a freaking dll and not everyone gets bought by AOL so that they can keep making winamp free. Have you noticed Winamp now installs AOL icons on the desktop when you install it? Nothing comes without a price. KaosAd : do not tell me you are going to resort to how you having to attack my nickname because of your lack of arguement. One wouldn't be so lame as to call me a noobie when you have five more posts to your name. Perhaps you would. Then once you lose the ability to attack my nick, you will say I am lame for having nearly the same amount of posts as you. Then you will say I must work for TGTsoft. Pure dribble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosAD Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Anad, I don't think your talking to me, I wasn't aiming the above post at you or is it me misreading your post :ermm: If it was aimed at me then you are the one that neads to learn to read better IShnoob, the issue is, they lied, Anyway if my post is aimed at Ishnoob, Ishtar, Ishwhatever :D unless you are using 2 nicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anad Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 the both versions are beta 4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosAD Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Ishn00b, let me make this clear again, I don't need the dll, I don't care what you linked to, I know they are a business, I KNOW they LIED so quit spewing your bull****, do you work for them??? Stardock offers one of either of their products free, why not tgtsoft? Talk about gall, wasting enrergy, look at your posts, seems you have plenty of time to kill or do you get paid by tgtsoft??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anad Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 forgive me KaosAD for misunderstanding your post.... it was a Huge mistake from side sorry:D .. any way lets hope they change their strategy or i think we should overlaod there Emails with complaints.. until they regret their decesion.. we don't need another star**** in the community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedneyshields Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Ijust unloaded my stylesxp4.1 plus and then went to tgtsoft and downloaded stylesxp4.1 not the plus version. I read the license agreement this time around, it states I can evalueate the software for 90 days, it also states it patches the uxtheme.dll. Isn"t that what the earlier versions did. someone please let me know. thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davad70 Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Originally posted by Anad .. we don't need another star**** in the community You're on crack Anad...Stardock has done a lot to propagate skinning, whereas TGT has actually caused harm to the community. Stardock has never lied to people, and have always had high quality free versions of their apps readily available. Why can't people leave Stardock out of this? They have nothing to do with this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binary Posted December 19, 2001 Author Share Posted December 19, 2001 Hi, Ok people please dont turn the post into a flame war, I started the topic to simply give everyone the knowledge that Style XP is in fact shareware. It seems alot more people were suprised about this then just me :( Ismael, maybe you dont mind being lied to, or tricked into at least "thinking" about buying it, but others dont, so please dont call people whiners, or idiots because they dont know how to hack a dll on their own. That is very immature, also is others flamming you. Everyone has their own opinion on the matter, but as others have pointed out, they did tell us it was going to be free, and it says nothing on the main page or download page that Style XP is shareware, and the app itself doesnt even tell you untill it's too late :( I am really disappointed about this whole thing, because I really liked TGTSoft, and I was like the 1st person to spread the word of their product to various msgboards, now I feel "dirty" :(, also alot of download sites claim it is freeware aswell, so they better get things straight too. Anyways yes they are developers, yes they do have the right to charge for a PROGRAM, not a patch : and they dont have the right to change their minds about charging for it just because it becomes popular. Oh well like I said, it wont be long before someone makes a free version. BTW if there are any developers, or programmers that can make such an app, and would like to get together with me, and brainstorm, I have some pretty kool ideas about how to make such an app way better :) I was going to share my ideas with TGTSoft but unless they make it freeware I am not going to say a thing :) Anyways the offers Open as long as your willing to give some time and effort towards a freeware app :D that everyone can enjoy. Anyone who would like to help out with this can contact me via pm or email: kmkkid@hotmail.com I'm pretty sure making an app like style XP isnt breaking any copyrights, as long as the patch is applied differently. Because I'm pretty sure you cannot copyright the patch itself :) Contact Me :D, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedneyshields Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 WELL SAID BINARY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosAD Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Yes Binary, you are correct, I apologize. This is the first time I have had an outburst :ermm: Not my style, I let him get to me, I see this now. Again I apologize for my outburst but in no way does this mean I'm still not thinking it :devious: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neo Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 stardork never lied? their app was always awful and slow, also huge ressource eater, no matter if i tried 1.x, 2.xx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binary Posted December 19, 2001 Author Share Posted December 19, 2001 Yeah but neo Stardock has always been straightforward about their apps being shareware, as far as I know at least :) And Frogboy if your reading, great work on Logon XP :D Freeware = Goodware ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenreaper Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Originally posted by neo stardork never lied? their app was always awful and slow, also huge ressource eater, no matter if i tried 1.x, 2.xx! No. They never lied, that I know of. For example, they weren't found to be making anonymous posts supporting their product and denigrating XPStyles, unlike "Gus", AKA "Bob" did for WB. Tried 3.x? Used it on an OS that doesn't have hugely small resource limits? (remember, StyleXP == XP, they don't have to worry about it, and nor do you if you use WB on XP - or 2k, for that matter) I *know* it's faster than 1.x or 2.x, and faster even than .msstyles on equivalent skins (say, scratch's Luna UIS1+). I wrote the open-source benchmarking program that you can use to see for yourself (www.sourceforge.net/projects/skinbench). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortensen Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 LMFAO... Stardock equals popular and TGTsoft equals con-men... boy have the tables turned. I don't like TGTsoft anymore . But don't go hyping Stardock just cos TGTsoft suck... alternatives are always good, just ashame TGTsoft messed up more that Stardock did with PR. PS - Good post Binary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Hello: This thread has become so convoluted that its original intent has dissolved into a foray of discussions and insult, just like all threads on the Internet eventually do. I stand by my assertion people are whining unjustly no matter how immature that makes me. Quote "Style XP is free and will probably remain free until we can provide more content. The patch to uxtheme.dll will always be free. " no pricetag on the download page and no uxtheme.dll available for DL since people are saying the lite times out too, looks like the complaints are valid then. My bad. correction, Doh, looks like tgtsoft did screw this up. I was wrong about the light version not having a date apparently even though it doesn't expire on my pc. Ishmael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosAD Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Ishmael, quit the flaming, you are the one that pushed the buttons. Evidently you did not read my post above. I am convinced you work for tgtsoft now. I can't be bothered reading??? well take the time yourself to read the whole interview at devart. Style XP is free and will probably remain free until we can provide more content. The patch to uxtheme.dll will always be free. Where's the content??? Oh I see, a few themes are what they mean by content, silly me, I thought that meant a more complete feature set in the program, so once again 20$ for what? Your right, I will use the dll I had before tgtsoft was even heard of.If you don't like the whining then stop coming to this thread I stand by my assertion people are whining unjustly no matter how immature that makes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binary Posted December 19, 2001 Author Share Posted December 19, 2001 Ishmael, no offense, but are you blind? It has been stated that even the normal Style XP without the skins expires.. can you not read? Don't bother commenting if you are going to flame, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and a reputable company would post the price on the main page and near download links. I'm sorry your trying to defend a company who took us all for fools apparently. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrex Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 i to was taken! but the flamin has got to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 I am blind apparently. Doh, sorry about that. Somehow, the lite version doesn't time out on my computer even if I set that date forward 6 months. I got worked up defending something that I was wrong about. Damn that sucks. So did anyone ever send TGTsoft an email asking if this is what they intended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binary Posted December 19, 2001 Author Share Posted December 19, 2001 Hmmm Funny I installed the lite version, set my time ahead a year, and guess what, it asks me to register or I can't use it... hmmmmm You really think they would charge $20 just for the included skins when u can dload plus and keep the skins? duh. And I set it ahead a year, because thats how I found out in the 1st place, I must have accidently set it ahead a year when I clicked on the date one time : So thats how I found out about all of this in the 1st place. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJP Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 It will be cracked just like windowsblinds. You only need to input a serial, so it's easy to hack. If you already know about stylesxp then you already know much about computers and you know your way on astalavista. :) If u were a newbie you only think windowsblinds can be used for skinning. Right? A little bit bit of topic. If you really want to screw up your computer, try this. First uninstall stylexp and then delete uxtheme.dll. Windows then prompts you and ask for the original xp-cd. That's called windows file protection. Continue using your current skin. Then Reboot. Windows starts and then.... you only see icons, nothing more. Looks really ugly. It happened to me when i was trying windowsblinds. hehe And believe me, it's really hard to select the default luna skin when you see only icons on your screen and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokerX Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Yea,you gotta watch out for those black screens!I had a hella time too hehehehe TokerX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binary Posted December 19, 2001 Author Share Posted December 19, 2001 DJP, cracking it isnt the point. Anything can be cracked. The point that I was trying to make is that they made everyone believe it was going to be free, and even the app makes like its free untill it expires :ermm: Of course someone will crack it, but why should we have to use a cracked copy? This is a very small program that should be free anyways. And as far as they have mentioned, it would be free, or at least have a free counterpart. And this isnt the case :( and no one has taken me up on my offer yet :( I am quite serious about getting together with some people to create an even better free app like Style XP, I have lots of great ideas for it! Maybe Frogboy would like to get involved ;) probably not, but one can dream :D Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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