Julius Caro Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Apparently snow leopard reports the capacity in base-10 instead of the 1024 thing. Now I dont know what impact this has on the whole "snow leopard reduces the HD footprint of the OS", but one of the implications of using base 10 is that not only will your hard drive have a bigger capacity, all files contained will also account for more GB than before. I wonder if 1MB is still 1024kb? http://smarterware.org/3122/snow-leopard-r...ctly-in-base-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 1MB = 1000 KB 1MiB = 1024 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micro Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 you mean instead of base 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted August 31, 2009 Subscriber¹ Share Posted August 31, 2009 As Ricardo says, 1MB isn't 1024KB anway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_%28data%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Very little, I use df to measure my disk usage (which by default measures in 512 byte blocks rather than any arbitrary format) I noticed a few gigs shaved off my previous Leopard install on the Mac Pro and MBP so yes it's smaller by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted August 31, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2009 Does this mean every file on Snow Leopard is now considerably larger, due to the change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 implications of using base 10 is that not only will your hard drive have a bigger capacity, all files contained will also account for more GB than before. It won't have a bigger capacity. It'll just look like it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Does this mean every file on Snow Leopard is now considerably larger, due to the change? The size is the same, it's just a different unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Does this mean every file on Snow Leopard is now considerably larger, due to the change? doesn't really make that much of a difference but yes they are a bit larger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted August 31, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2009 The size is the same, it's just a different unit. We'll yes, I knew you can't just change the physical size of the hard drive storage :laugh: Now each file will appear differently. This change is very confusing, all just to prevent consumers from asking the age old question "wheres the rest of my space?". Download sizes will appear larger, download speeds will appear faster, when in reality, download at the same speed. Only if everything changed format overnight, than I could see this all making sense. It is a step in the right direction, but will it stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted August 31, 2009 MVC Share Posted August 31, 2009 Okay, the whole MiB **** is so stupid. Seeing as computers work in binary (base 2) it makes a hell of a lot more sense for 1MB to = 1024 KB (and such). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 1MB = 1000 KB1MiB = 1024 KB Noone actually usesthe MiB,GiB,TiB crap. It's a stupid solution to a really non existing problem. everyone who says 1MB pretty much means 1024, and those who don't, they're the ones who don't even know there's a difference between 1000 and 1024, they just know there's MegaBytes and such. As long as you're talking bits/bytes it should be obvious to anyone it matters for that you're talkign ain base2 and this 1024. the whole MiB crap needs to die, and everyoen should learn to count to 1024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted August 31, 2009 MVC Share Posted August 31, 2009 <3 HawkMan :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted August 31, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2009 Okay, the whole MiB **** is so stupid. Seeing as computers work in binary (base 2) it makes a hell of a lot more sense for 1MB to = 1024 KB (and such). Exactly. The entire Base 2 is what everyone with computer smarts has grown to know. Changing the GUI to show Base 10 isn't exactly helping people understand the entire situation of 1M = 1024KB. Does this mean Apple realizes there are more people who don't understand the whole concept of Base 2, that they needed to change so that those people would better understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted August 31, 2009 MVC Share Posted August 31, 2009 If you read the comments on the article apparently its only a visual thing as itunes is still reporting the base 2 size of the hard drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted August 31, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 31, 2009 It's pretty much established that 1 MB = 1024 KB even though it isn't technically equal to that amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted August 31, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 31, 2009 EDIT: Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deactivated_ Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Seems like the same reason as to why a 1 Tb hard drive shows up as 931 Gig. Just the hard drive manufacturer calculating by 1000 when it should be 1024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted August 31, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2009 Change the hard drives, not the software to more accurately reflect the storage size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentaal Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Next Apple ad - "Windows steals your storage space". :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NienorGT Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 For god shake... I don't care about if 1MB is 1000KB or 1024KB, but make it universal in anything! I don't want to think about different files sizes between my Mac and PCs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 It won't have a bigger capacity. It'll just look like it does. Well that's what I meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NienorGT Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Next Apple ad - "Windows steals your storage space". :pNext Microsoft ad: OSX make files .25% bigger! :sleep: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Change the hard drives, not the software to more accurately reflect the storage size Or their boxes ;) I'm all over the change, but everybody needs to do it as well. Everywhere in the documentation where we see MB, GB, KB, etc. it needs to be changed... pretty huge IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerade01 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Next Apple ad - "Windows steals your storage space". :p +1 This will problably be their next ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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