KeeperOfThePizza Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 screw that, i aint dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabron Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 No worries, only the rich would be able to afford this technology anyway... I could not agree more, this is going to be like going to space right now, only the super rich can afford $20 millions to go around the earth, so this new technology of immortality will be similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Helix Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 The tech/knowledge may be available in 20 years, but i doubt practical application would come then. And dammit, I do want to live forever, but i really don't need the other stuff like being uber smart, heck id even trade immortality for being eternally stupid, ignorance is bliss after all lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwong Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Mr Kurzweil calls his theory the Law of Accelerating Returns so is it a theory or a law? also, where is the source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabron Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 also, where is the source? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science...-scientist.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxz Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 http://www.ted.com/talks/ray_kurzweil_anno...university.html :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted September 23, 2009 Member Share Posted September 23, 2009 Virtual sex will become commonplace. Now that is just wrong on many levels. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 The planet is already over populated, last thing we need is people living longer Anyone who really believes that is completely deluded by the media. Go visit the middle of the US, Australia, or hell, even Canada and tell me that the world is overpopulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Anyone who really believes that is completely deluded by the media. Go visit the middle of the US, Australia, or hell, even Canada and tell me that the world is overpopulated. There's even plenty of places in the UK where you won't see another soul for miles, and we're a titchy place compared to those three... Overpopulation isn't the problem. Hell, even food isn't a problem, there's LOADS of land that could be made available for food production if we put some effort in to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted September 23, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 23, 2009 The problem isn't the total count of people (more than enough land for the current population), the problem is the density (it clumps around the cities) and getting food for those people who don't have enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrossa Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Count me out. It's just borderline bearable now. Don't want to be there when the inevitable happens: The elite keep control of the immortality process, for each immortal a few 1000 mortals have to be culled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted September 23, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 23, 2009 There's the food issue, but better techniques could help with that a whole lot (there are other ways to make meat than having a herd of cows and bulls) I was talking about this with a friend, we concluded that in a future (not very far away) most of our protein will come from soy based meat replacements. Soy is easier to produce in mass and once the demands increases it will be also cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I was talking about this with a friend, we concluded that in a future (not very far away) most of our protein will come from soy based meat replacements. Soy is easier to produce in mass and once the demands increases it will be also cheaper. Soy I can tolerate, but if anyone tries to make me eat Quorn, I'll feed them their own liver. With some baked beans, and a cheap Tesco Value can of beer. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted September 23, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 23, 2009 I was actually thinking back to an article I read a while ago about growing muscles in a "Bioreactor". http://www.newsdesk.umd.edu/scitech/releas...?ArticleID=1098 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy_Hippo Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 um, 20 years is a bit... too short to reach "immortality". Interesting article, though. It probably won't happen in one go, it'll be more like: 2030 - New treatments allow you to live 50 years longer 2060 - Advances in research add a further 100 years to your life 2100 - Now able to add 200 years and so on and so forth. That's why Ray Kurzweil reckons he may live forever - all he has to do is live for the next 20 years to get on the first rung of the ladder, so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted September 23, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 23, 2009 That's why Ray Kurzweil reckons he may live forever uhmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 It probably won't happen in one go, it'll be more like:2030 - New treatments allow you to live 50 years longer 2060 - Advances in research add a further 100 years to your life 2100 - Now able to add 200 years and so on and so forth. That's why Ray Kurzweil reckons he may live forever - all he has to do is live for the next 20 years to get on the first rung of the ladder, so to speak. The only problem I see with that is that, well... Aren't we all meant to be dying in 2012 or something? :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.F.D.K Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) The only problem I see with that is that, well... Aren't we all meant to be dying in 2012 or something? :rofl: Supposedly! Like some of the lads in here mentioned it, even IF it happens only super rich people will be able to afford it. Also who will decide to give you a green light of a life extension (Immortality)..? Edited September 23, 2009 by M.F.D.K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Goatlord Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I agree with Gamerhomie. as long as its not abused. I think for everyone who is going to die young it should be usedbut the max aged allowed should be 120. you need to die at one point. Why? Lets take this to the next logical step here. If we're going to basically become cyborgs...start replacing organs with robotic components, replace red blood cells with nanites...why limit ourselves? Hell, why even stay here on Earth? Lets all go solar-powered and start colonizing the rest of the solar system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted September 23, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 23, 2009 Why? Lets take this to the next logical step here. If we're going to basically become cyborgs...start replacing organs with robotic components, replace red blood cells with nanites...why limit ourselves? Hell, why even stay here on Earth? Lets all go solar-powered and start colonizing the rest of the solar system. As far fetched your post might sound, I think its logical to think that other races have done the same or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxz Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 "Resistance is futile" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamminium Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 You guys seriously believe in all this? rofl He's too optimistic. Biotechnology has grown a great deal but the promise of immortality is very far fetched for a 20 - 25 year period. Leaving aside the ethical, moral and legal issues, the biomedical challenges are already a hurdle that is nigh impossible to be met within a quarter of a century. The fact that the structures of the ion channels that are integral and vital to our system cannot be solved readily signifies how limited we are. So far, only the structure of the potassium channel has been fully discovered but its complete kinematics is still speculative (the current theory makes sense but we have no means to observe and confirm it). We know a great deal about the erythrocytes but we can't hope to use bionic erythrocytes within 20 years because of cost, viability and efficiency factors. Plus thinking that we can replace every single human being's pool of red blood cells with mechanical robots in such a short amount of time is ridiculous. Sure we can create quite a few working mechanically operated organs but we cannot eliminate the factor of malfunction. This alone impedes the prospect of immortality. Suppose we had it worked out, it would be useless to have an immortal body if we couldn't create a brain like ours. The reason why neuroscience has progressed but not at its highest rate is due to ethical considerations whenever an experiment on humans is involved. In short, this guy is a dreamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master2k27 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 few problems human population and poor people will not be rich enough for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanVP Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 And at 61, Ray Kurzweil suffers from dementia, alcoholism and all sorts of delusions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I don't think I would like to live forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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