It's legal to do this?


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no... you have to agree to the End-User License Agreement (EULA) when you install (fast-forward to click "Yes")

Then how do so many game stores get away with the trade-ins on older games if it violates the sacred EULA?

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Then how do so many game stores get away with the trade-ins on older games if it violates the sacred EULA?

They don't they only accept console games. I've not seen a store that trades in PC games.

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Then how do so many game stores get away with the trade-ins on older games if it violates the sacred EULA?

because most of them do not use a serial/license key. they are dealing in physical media, not digital rights.

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Breaking a contract is not illegal. There is not a law that says you must follow a contract.

End User License Agreements ARE contracts.

And breaking one is illegal.

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End User License Agreements ARE contracts.

And breaking one is illegal.

It's not strictly illegal, EULAs are often in breach of existing laws and as a result not legally binding. It would need to be tested in court before you could make that judgement.

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End User License Agreements ARE contracts.

And breaking one is illegal.

Hmm.. I'm not a lawyer. Maybe you are and can provide a reference for this?

IMO, if you are in breach of a contract then civil actions make come against you. But surely not criminal ones. If you break a contract, you are not a law breaker or a criminal.

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End User License Agreements ARE contracts.

And breaking one is illegal.

Actually, it isn't under current legal precidents, which is why the OSX86 modders haven't been shut down for it. Technically if you violate an EULA all the company can do is deny you support and updates for your product

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Actually, it isn't under current legal precidents, which is why the OSX86 modders haven't been shut down for it. Technically if you violate an EULA all the company can do is deny you support and updates for your product

No, they can take a civil suit against you, such as the one Apple is currently pursuing against Psystar.

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I hate it when people link articles as their entire argument. Especially when the article doesn't even support the argument.

Fine fine:

Some copyright owners use EULAs in an effort to circumvent limitations the applicable copyright law places on their copyrights (such as the limitations in sections 107-122 of the United States Copyright Act), or to expand the scope of control over the work into areas for which copyright protection is denied by law (such as attempting to charge for, regulate or prevent private performances of a work beyond a certain number of performances or beyond a certain period of time). Such EULAs are, in essence, efforts to gain control, by contract, over matters upon which copyright law precludes control.

If you break Copyright, you break a law.

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As said, a EULA is just a contract. If I have my friend sign a contract that states he will go kill someone for me, is it illegal if he doesn't do it? I know I'm splitting hairs here. I'm bored ><

a contract must provide legal goods or service too...

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Fine fine:

If you break Copyright, you break a law.

An EULA != Copyright Law. Copyright Law determines the legality, the EULA is another matter entirely, at best it is an unofficial addendum to any existing laws.

To stay on topic, in the case of the OP, there are no copyright laws being broken.

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Fine fine:

If you break Copyright, you break a law.

Ahh...so breaking Copyright is breaking the law. EULA != Copyright, though. But I won't argue that breaking copyright breaks the law as there have been plenty of people put in jail for it.

Back on topic:

It is clear that if the OP transfers his Steam account to another individual, then he will be in violation of the EULA. But, will he be in violation of copyright?

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Ahh...so breaking Copyright is breaking the law. EULA != Copyright, though. But I won't argue that breaking copyright breaks the law as there have been plenty of people put in jail for it.

Back on topic:

It is clear that if the OP transfers his Steam account to another individual, then he will be in violation of the EULA. But, will he be in violation of copyright?

no until he physically copy the media

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Back on topic:

It is clear that if the OP transfers his Steam account to another individual, then he will be in violation of the EULA. But, will he be in violation of copyright?

Yes.

no until he physically copy the media

If he sells ANYTHING that is related to his steam account,.. it's a violation of Eula, and it's a physical copy of all the games on his account, therefore, the physical copy of the media on the account, and therefore, it's a copyright violation.. and it is illegal.

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If he sells ANYTHING that is related to his steam account,.. it's a violation of Eula, and it's a physical copy of all the games on his account, therefore, the physical copy of the media on the account, and therefore, it's a copyright violation.. and it is illegal.

physically transfer of original media is NOT against copyright (actually it is a right protected by eula), but physically transfer of copies of original media is; so transferring account is violation of eula could result on account ban, not violation of copyright

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Yes.

If he sells ANYTHING that is related to his steam account,.. it's a violation of Eula, and it's a physical copy of all the games on his account, therefore, the physical copy of the media on the account, and therefore, it's a copyright violation.. and it is illegal.

No it isn't, it's a transfer of the ownership and rights of the property between two parties. IANAL, but I seem to recall this being explicitly allowed in US copyright law.

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When you complete Steam's registration process, you create a Steam account ("Account"). Your Account may also include billing information you provide to us for the purchase of Subscriptions. You are solely responsible for all activity on your Account and for the security of your computer system. You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account. You agree that you are personally responsible for the use of your password and Account and for all of the communication and activity on Steam that results from use of your login name and password. You may not sell or charge others for the right to use your Account, or otherwise transfer your Account.

From here.

Any more questions on if it's illegal?

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