A "Banned Member Forum"....


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Considering some of the mods here will raise/ban you for the stupidest things, it wouldnt take very much to see that banned forum

then again, if i wanted to see that, id go to 4chan

lol! yes, exactly.

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lol that would be hilarious to watch...and regular members can visit but banned members can't post anywhere else....they can look around but not post.. lol could be funny to watch... it's like a

Detention Center...

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lol that would be hilarious to watch...and regular members can visit but banned members can't post anywhere else....they can look around but not post.. lol could be funny to watch... it's like a

Detention Center...

Every other word should get censored. After a certain amount of time, they'd just give up.

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A banned member forum would quickly become a disaster area. Really bad idea.

Better idea: Stick to the rules and don't be warned/banned.

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A banned member forum would quickly become a disaster area. Really bad idea.

Better idea: Stick to the rules and don't be warned/banned.

completely agree.

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Glad to hear some opinions on this :)

Someone could definitely correct me if I am wrong, but would this not negate the whole reason of banning people to begin with?

If you get banned, it means you and your attitude are no longer welcome, that is the most brutally honest way I can put it.

My idea (and in the other forum's) is that this would be for temp bans. If you are perm ban, It pretty much means you have done something to deserve it.

This would be the equivalent of being kicked out of for the sake of this example a restaurant, but that restaurant then creating a specific table for you inside that you can come to whenever you like because you are after-all not really kicked out, they just told you that, and now they have a special table just for you. It makes absolutely no sense.

Not a great analogy as a restaurant will never ban you (unless you assult someone or dont pay or etc) because they dont care about you, your attitude or anything else. They just care that you pay (profit)

Neowin cares about its members because without members it would not have a memberbase which is what Neowin wants.

Anyway, a "banned member forum" would be a waste of bandwidth. A waste of the mods time. Really... just pointless.

Like I said, the mods would just have to click on the thread and delete it. No explanation at all needed as it is a banned section.

Also maybe a timelimit such as every minute (example) the forum is emptied.

Question: If someone is banned, do they ever have a chance of being un-banned?

No.

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Not a great analogy as a restaurant will never ban you (unless you assult someone or dont pay or etc) because they dont care about you, your attitude or anything else. They just care that you pay (profit)

Neowin cares about its members because without members it would not have a memberbase which is what Neowin wants.

:rolleyes: First off, a restaurant owner damn sure would go ahead and ban someone who was a problem if they were a reoccurring problem. My friend actually owns a restaurant, and guess what, he has a person that is never welcome back and indeed considered banned for life. I really think you are overlooking the fact a restaurant can indeed sell alcohol as well if they have their license, so whenever alcohol is involved, people will be banned for life.

But why believe me as who knows if I really have a friend that owns a place, so you know what I did? I went ahead and did some research just for you. Well after a quick Google search of "Have+You+Ever+Been+Banned+From+A+Restaurant&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3a%6ffficial&client=firefox-a" , the very first result took me to a page with a thread asking if people ever were asked to leave a bar, and a person who goes by the name of Jason S says "I'm banned from The Little Knight for punching a hole in their wall. So sensitive, geez."

Just because you seem to be a stickler for detail, I even Googled The Little Knight, and it appears it is a Dive Bar in California, but thanks to the first full review it is noted that they indeed serve food, Fish Tacos on Wednesday night, so they indeed also qualify as a restaurant.

So thank you very much, my analogy stands as I believe I have provided sufficient proof people, even if it is only one human being on the entire planet, can indeed be banned from a restaurant.

But you know what, lets pretend that is all irrelevant for your sake and let me go ahead and post my initial analogy I was going to post instead of the one I did, but I chose not to because I thought you would then cry foul about the reference, but here you go...

What you are asking for is like being a repeat offender criminal who finally gets life in prison. It would be the equivalent of the warden in the prison saying "You see that door, anytime you want you can walk through it to go outside again just so you remember what it is like, even though we took away your freedom." It just makes no sense, why on earth would you reward a repeat offender with the very thing you have taken away from them, and in a rationale world it just would never happen.

So there you have it. I actually still prefer my second analogy, I just think it flowed a whole lot better, but I thought I would post the first one I intended to just to provide another one for your enjoyment.

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:rolleyes: First off, a restaurant owner damn sure would go ahead and ban someone who was a problem if they were a reoccurring problem. My friend actually owns a restaurant, and guess what, he has a person that is never welcome back and indeed considered banned for life. I really think you are overlooking the fact a restaurant can indeed sell alcohol as well if they have their license, so whenever alcohol is involved, people will be banned for life.

I dont understand really the alcohol comment but...

Lets say that person is in a group of people which is one person's birthday. He decides to celebrate his birthday there and the group of people go in and the owner sees the ban person and says he cannot eat there. The person gets ****ed off, leaves and so does the group.

Imagine losing a $100+ profit meal. I dont think your friend would ban him (on that occasion of course)

We are BTW getting WAY offtopic

What you are asking for is like being a repeat offender criminal who finally gets life in prison. It would be the equivalent of the warden in the prison saying "You see that door, anytime you want you can walk through it to go outside again just so you remember what it is like, even though we took away your freedom." It just makes no sense, why on earth would you reward a repeat offender with the very thing you have taken away from them, and in a rationale world it just would never happen.

Even if parole is denied, there are cases where a repeated offender criminal is given free weekends where he can go out of the prison (this obviously depends on the crime) and visit place/people he is allowed to.

Analogies arent really my thing as there is ALWAYS a flaw in them.

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I dont understand really the alcohol comment but...

Lets say that person is in a group of people which is one person's birthday. He decides to celebrate his birthday there and the group of people go in and the owner sees the ban person and says he cannot eat there. The person gets ****ed off, leaves and so does the group.

Imagine losing a $100+ profit meal. I dont think your friend would ban him (on that occasion of course)

We are BTW getting WAY offtopic

Even if parole is denied, there are cases where a repeated offender criminal is given free weekends where he can go out of the prison (this obviously depends on the crime) and visit place/people he is allowed to.

Analogies arent really my thing as there is ALWAYS a flaw in them.

Trust me, I'm working in the F&B industry since 10 years back.... this is common day practice by anything from your local MacDonalds to the Four Seasons or Ritz-Carlton...

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The staff here aren't exactly the most forgiving so I feel it would be at least fair to give members some explanation as to what they get banned for. How is Powerade posting in here anyway if he's been banned? :/

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He posted before getting banned ;)

The member who gets banned will receive a direct explanation from staff why they were banned from Neowin.

Radish?

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He posted before getting banned ;)

The member who gets banned will receive a direct explanation from staff why they were banned from Neowin.

Radish™

Seeing as banned members can't read PM's how is this information conveyed then? I know other people who have been banned from here that haven't been notified as to the reason

If you think neowin mods "ban for stupid reason" you should check out the steam forums. I think the neowin mods are great.

I never said stupid reasons, I said they where not overly forgiving, and yes I know what the steam forums are like, their staff are on the whole absolute a**holes

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Seeing as banned members can't read PM's how is this information conveyed then? I know other people who have been banned from here that haven't been notified as to the reason

I never said stupid reasons, I said they where not overly forgiving, and yes I know what the steam forums are like, their staff are on the whole absolute a**holes

Ban notifications are sent via email for this very reason. If the email address in your account is incorrect, then there is nothing we can do about that.

It should perhaps be noted that he wasn't banned for anything relating to this thread.

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Seeing as banned members can't read PM's how is this information conveyed then? I know other people who have been banned from here that haven't been notified as to the reason

Email inboxes.

edit: too slow :p

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Trust me, I'm working in the F&B industry since 10 years back.... this is common day practice by anything from your local MacDonalds to the Four Seasons or Ritz-Carlton...

BTW, thank you Markus J. (Y) I knew all along I was not crazy, but just nice to have someone confirm I am not.

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Well... so much for that.

I guess he got to see the other side, per his wish. I'm sure he will be disappointed to find.. nothing. :p

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I visit a forum where it shows the banned members and what they were banned for, does to seem to make fun of them which probably most deserve but I don't think its nice.

i think thats a good idea... the best way to lead is to lead by example

so in addition to the moderation of the forum, you have an additional deterrence element to it, which hopefully should in turn reduce the workload of the mods

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I know the staff runs the board and I don't have a problem with that, but I've often wondered why members don't have more say in some decisions. For example, say a permanently banned member had a chance to appeal to the members and we had a chance to vote on whether to allow the ban to stay or to revoke it. For something as important as a ban he would need at least say 70% of votes. If that's not workable, then say have a counsel of leading members that they could appeal to. To ban a member should be a last resort and he should be given every chance, I think.

Anyway, just an idea.

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I know the staff runs the board and I don't have a problem with that, but I've often wondered why members don't have more say in some decisions. For example, say a permanently banned member had a chance to appeal to the members and we had a chance to vote on whether to allow the ban to stay or to revoke it. For something as important as a ban he would need at least say 70% of votes. If that's not workable, then say have a counsel of leading members that they could appeal to. To ban a member should be a last resort and he should be given every chance, I think.

Anyway, just an idea.

havin permenant council members isnt that far off from having moderators....

i think that a better way would be that a new 'council' is brought up for every ban , consisting of people who are relevant to the events leading up to the ban, most likely just the people who posted in the same thread... and moderators would in effect like mediators, using their authority of the forum to ask everyone involved if the person should be banned or not

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