Apple: Official Boot Camp Support for Windows 7 Coming Later This Year


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Do you mean why OS X costs usually $120 vs. $300+ for a full version of windows? That is purely MS trying to milk every dollar from their OS. Apple charges a reasonable price for their OS upgrades because they want the majority of Mac owners to upgrade.

Don't compare upgrade price of OS X (the $129 figure) to full price of Windows ($300 figure) and then we'd have something to talk about.

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Don't compare upgrade price of OS X (the $129 figure) to full price of Windows ($300 figure) and then we'd have something to talk about.

Uh, no, actually, the upgrade price of OS X is $29 (and that's really a full install anyway; it's just marketed as an upgrade). The "full price" is $169, and that comes with OS X, iLife, and iWork.

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My iMac from september 2006 has Windows 7 installed, but when it boots, it automatically does an instant blue screen of death and restats.

On the other hand, I installed this copy on my MacBook Pro Unibody and it runs sooooooo perfectly. The only bug that I've noticed seems to be in Windows : when I want to right click, I press the glass trackpad with 2 fingers. It works anywhere, but not on the taskbar. I need 3 fingers there. It did that with Vista too. What the hell is wrong here?

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Uh, no, actually, the upgrade price of OS X is $29 (and that's really a full install anyway; it's just marketed as an upgrade). The "full price" is $169, and that comes with OS X, iLife, and iWork.

That is just for Leopard users. ;) Apple recommends the box set for Tiger users. And there is no "full price" for OS X. It is always upgrade. Only Windows has "full price" and "upgrade price".

Windows 7 too is a full install but just marketed as upgrade. so cost wise, they are no different.

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That is just for Leopard users. ;) Apple recommends the box set for Tiger users. And there is no "full price" for OS X. It is always upgrade. Only Windows has "full price" and "upgrade price".

Windows 7 too is a full install but just marketed as upgrade. so cost wise, they are no different.

If you want to get technical, yes, it's always an upgrade because you can't buy a Mac without OS X. But you can also install OSX86 with that $29 Snow Leopard disc, so... :p

What Apple recommends and what knowledgeable users actually buy are two separate things. :p You can upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard just fine with the "upgrade" disc. You can do a completely clean install as well.

I thought Windows 7 would validate that you had a previous system disc or previous system installed before it would let you use an upgrade disc, even if you booted from the disc? I know you can do a few things to "trick" the upgrade discs, but that's pushing the lines between upgrade and full install in this case. :p

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Apple had introduced its Boot Camp application that enabled Intel-based Macs to run Windows XP and Vista. Since Microsoft officially launched Windows 7 yesterday, many Mac owners would be looking forward to boot their Intel-Macs in Windows 7. Apple posted new support article stating that it will bring Windows 7 support with Boot Camp in Mac OS X Snow Leopard by the end of this year.

Boot Camp is an official utility from Apple that allows Mac machines to dual boot in Mac OS X and Windows OS. Before the end of this year, Apple will roll out a software update to Boot Camp for adding support to Windows 7 (Home, Premium and Ultimate). The Windows 7 support on Boot Camp is available only on Intel-based Macs and users holding Genuine Windows 7 copy or Windows 7 upgrade.

The following series of Mac models won't support Windows 7 using Boot Camp:

iMac (17-inch, Early 2006)

iMac (17-inch, Late 2006)

iMac (20-inch, Early 2006)

iMac (20-inch, Late 2006)

MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2006)

MacBook Pro (17-inch, Late 2006)

MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2006)

MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2006)

Mac Pro (Mid 2006, Intel Xeon Dual-core 2.66GHz or 3GHz)

Users willing to run Windows 7 under virtual environment on Mac OS X can use virtualization software like Parallels Desktop 4.0.

Apple stated no reason for not supporting 2006 Mac models. The non-availability of compatible drivers for different hardware is presumed to be the reason for dropping support for these Macs. Hopefully, Apple provides clarification on this issue when the update for Boot Camp bringing Windows 7 support is released.

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My iMac from september 2006 has Windows 7 installed, but when it boots, it automatically does an instant blue screen of death and restats.

On the other hand, I installed this copy on my MacBook Pro Unibody and it runs sooooooo perfectly. The only bug that I've noticed seems to be in Windows : when I want to right click, I press the glass trackpad with 2 fingers. It works anywhere, but not on the taskbar. I need 3 fingers there. It did that with Vista too. What the hell is wrong here?

The fault is with Apple's Boot Camp drivers, not Windows.

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You're talking about what, Quillz? The problem with my iMac, my MacBook Pro, or both of them?

You mentioned the trackpad not working in Windows. That's because Apple (at least until Snow Leopard) had buggy Windows drivers that didn't let the trackpad work the way it was supposed to. So it wasn't an issue with Windows but with third-party drivers. You know, the same issues that gave Vista a bad reputation.

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Ohhh, yeah, the trackpad was awful in Vista, but I'm sure it was the same in XP and in 7 betas. But in Boot Camp 3.0, the only small bug I have now with the trackpad as I said is that I have to use 3 fingers to right click on the taskbar only. Throughout the rest of the OS, the trackpad is now solid :) Even all those functionalities on the keyboard work now (eject, volume, screen luminosity, etc.)

And Windows 7 also fixes some of those bad things included in Windows Vista, so it's a 2 for 1 ! Now, if Apple is meant to make other drivers soon for Boot Camp (probably 3.1), it'll be even better.

As for my iMac, I'm selling it to someone who doesn't want Windows on it, and my next iMac will support 64-bit and everything, so even with Boot Camp 3.0 I'll be able to install it without a problem. I just need to know more about those Magic Mouse drivers for Windows. They've been out for like 2 days, but even if they are official, I think Apple did not mention that it made the Magic Mouse work, but yes it works. Apparently it scrolls and that's it (the site didn't report about left clicking and right clicking). I guess Boot Camp 3.1 will support that completely.

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I just bootcamped yesterday on a Macbook Pro Early 2008 Edition and the drivers with SL work perfectly fine so what are they updating for ?

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I'm running Windows 7 on my Mac Pro 2008 and works fine with Boot Camp 3.0 :huh:

Boot Camp 3.0 works fine with Windows 7 because the Vista drivers work just fine on 7. All Apple is saying, though, that Win7 is not 100% supported for now. It's just legalize to cover their asses. They aren't responsible if the Boot Camp drivers crash your Win7 installation and/or nuke the world or something like that.

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I wonder if this will fix the issues with the mic not working in skype on windows 7, speaker volume being very low + the left side is twice as loud as right side, optical light constantly switched on and keyboard backlight not shutting off completely. So far it seems that these problems have been around on the 2009 unibody macbook pros since they were released and its never been fixed.

Otherwise I might have to return my week old macbook pro and go with another brand even though nothing else is as appealing to look and feel.

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Thankful? why? Doesn't Apple advertise about Boot camp?

it is not us who should be thankful. It is not a free gift that they are providing. It is Apple who should be thankful that we are paying $$ for their hardware.

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I hope they release some good drivers...

I wonder if this will fix the issues with the mic not working in skype on windows 7, speaker volume being very low + the left side is twice as loud as right side, optical light constantly switched on and keyboard backlight not shutting off completely. So far it seems that these problems have been around on the 2009 unibody macbook pros since they were released and its never been fixed.

Otherwise I might have to return my week old macbook pro and go with another brand even though nothing else is as appealing to look and feel.

You can fix the low volume problem... I downloaded a modified cs420x.inf file and replaced it with original one... installed it and problem fixed :D

modified cs420x

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Thanks for the driver. Is it for 32bit or 64bit? I'm using windows 7 ultimate 64bit with my macbook pro 13". :) I found another driver (in .exe) that doesn't really work well because the audio gets very distorted when volume is turned up.

I really don't want to return this sexy macbook pro for a dell or any other brand.

edit: it doesn't work that well with the drivers (very distorted audio) :(

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I used it on a 64bit... but it should work for 32bit too... I installed it on mine and on one of my friends MBP 13" no problem... Did you delete your old driver first and then manually select the new cs420x.inf file from the driver folder?

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Yeah I did. When I raise the volume to 100% music is a little distorted no idea why. I also tried the one which is already in the exe file to no avail. I've just swapped my 13" for the 15" so I'll try installing it again to see if it works.

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I hope they take off the false 64-bit limit on my macbook. I'm tired of having to use workarounds to actually USE my hardware because Apple wants to mark up prices and push new models.

FULL 64 bit hardware and I have use use hacks to work around limits Apple made in Snow Leopard and Windows to enable full 64-bit support. Talk about ****ty support.

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I hope they take off the false 64-bit limit on my macbook. I'm tired of having to use workarounds to actually USE my hardware because Apple wants to mark up prices and push new models.

FULL 64 bit hardware and I have use use hacks to work around limits Apple made in Snow Leopard and Windows to enable full 64-bit support. Talk about ****ty support.

I didn't know holding 6 and 4 during boot was a hack?

Also, in Snow Leopard the 32 bit kernel runs 64 bit apps, so what's the issue?

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You'da thunk Apple would have this ready.

So wait... if your computer is listed under "not supported", does that mean you'll have to go buy a new iMac or MBP in order to run Windows 7? That's pretty weak.

Very unusual considering most "Windows" tech from those years run Windows 7 just fine.

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Very unusual considering most "Windows" tech from those years run Windows 7 just fine.

My Mac is listed as not supported yet runs Windows 7 32-bit fine, just as it did, XP, and Vista.

By not supported, they probably mean 'fully' seeing as a lot of those models aren't full 64-bit, or not 64-bit at all.

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