Apple: 'Windows 7 is antiquated technology'

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I have both at home, OS X on my Macbook and Win7 on the PC. While using OS X is much better compared to Win XP, my experience with Vista and even more so with Win7 is quite positive. And lets be realist here, you can't GAME on OS X. Look at the fresh new iMac with hi-res display and stuck with a 4850 with 512Mb....

The only weak point of Windows and it's NOT Microsoft fault, is a form of "iLife". Tight integration of iTune/iPhoto/iMovie/iDVD to the funky Garage Band application.

I quite agree with you with games. Apple has not really make OS X a platform for games, but other than that love the integration of the Apple software, it is just unbelievable.

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It's all about the monopoly. If Microsoft didn't have to worry about that, we'd all have Live Essentials built in and tightly integrated with all other applications. Everyone who had Windows 7 would have an anti-virus which would in itself prevent a ridiculous amount of problems relating to malware.

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Whos fault is that, idiot companies like your own who cry monopoly and get the courts to order Microsoft to remove those features, you cant then go and bash Microsoft for not including them, seriously do these idiots at Apple even think before they engage their mouth.

+1 first thing that came to mind you just saved me some typing :laugh: cheers

If OS X is so retarded like u guys described then why the first time I tested OS X, I bought an apple and since then I never touch a PC again. I was a windows enthusiast but OS X provided features that in windows will be a pain in the ass and miles ahead.

just using windows doesn't make you an enthusiast

why is it that everyone who has switched over to mac claims to have been a "windows enthusiast" is it to make us think "oh wow he really loved windows, osx must be really good if it made him switch over"

please go into more detail about these features in osx that are somehow a "pain in the ass" on windows

will paint a nice picture of what kind of "windows enthusiast" you claim to have been

I have to say that I was surprised when I installed Windows 7 and realized it still couldn't read PDFs. Go Foxit, and go Adobe Reader, they must think...

There are so many PDF documents nowadays that one would think it was a necessity to implement a PDF reader into an OS.

it would be nice if they were included but yeah not fair to smaller companies/people that and microsoft would be sued for monopoly like activities even if it does save the user some time

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Yeah that's the features of Windows, it does not do a ****

Every time I read post like this I get closer to selling my iMac so I'm not associated with this kind of thing.

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"The criticism comes from Brian Croll, vice president of Apple's Mac OS X worldwide product marketing" stopped reading right there. What do you expect? That he's being reasonable and wishes Windows 7 the best with its start?

what really bothers me is that these are adults who keep bashing each other like 8yr old kids - with envy dripping from each sentence they write/speak. Politics has turned into this as well. Constructive criticism is not in their vocabulary anymore.

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If I were Apple, I'd be jealous of Microsoft's penetration, too.

LOL @ this troll

Any *nix system is just more stable than Windows, especially as a server from experiance! But people will blatantly say that they run Windows server *at home* and its awesome!

As for people who say there are no apps for their needs on Mac, I've never had a problem and I work in the IT field completing almost ever task you can think of, I use Mac OS X and Ubuntu and I can say they both have the same type of apps as Windows! Just don't have the games covered.

As for the topic it is just stupid that Apple talks crap about Windows 7 but to be honest it's really the same damn thing since XP or Vista just like Mac OS X snow leopard is the same as leopard. They both just hype minimal changes!

Also Windows is used more and will be used more until Mac's are easier to control in a business environment, but I still don't see much point in businesses moving from Windows XP to 7 at all.

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OMFG that's funny. It actually sums up what I was going to post about Carbon's statements. I'm not sure if anyone pointed it out, Carbon made a few contridictions with his lip flapping. I lol'd.

<snipped - don't troll>

....Ok this is not new, it was the way Macs were designed. ;)

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LOL @ this troll

Any *nix system is just more stable than Windows, especially as a server from experiance! But people will blatantly say that they run Windows server *at home* and its awesome!

As for people who say there are no apps for their needs on Mac, I've never had a problem and I work in the IT field completing almost ever task you can think of, I use Mac OS X and Ubuntu and I can say they both have the same type of apps as Windows! Just don't have the games covered.

As for the topic it is just stupid that Apple talks crap about Windows 7 but to be honest it's really the same damn thing since XP or Vista just like Mac OS X snow leopard is the same as leopard. They both just hype minimal changes!

I will just wait another Troll to Troll at this Troll...

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LOL @ this troll

Any *nix system is just more stable than Windows, especially as a server from experiance! But people will blatantly say that they run Windows server *at home* and its awesome!

As for people who say there are no apps for their needs on Mac, I've never had a problem and I work in the IT field completing almost ever task you can think of, I use Mac OS X and Ubuntu and I can say they both have the same type of apps as Windows! Just don't have the games covered.

As for the topic it is just stupid that Apple talks crap about Windows 7 but to be honest it's really the same damn thing since XP or Vista just like Mac OS X snow leopard is the same as leopard. They both just hype minimal changes!

Do you use Engineering applications?

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It's built on a lot of antiquated technology...

Yeah, like the Unix underpinnings of OS X is a spring chicken. That Unix base is older than Windows. At least Microsoft makes their OS and doesn't slap a GUI on top of it and call it their own.

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As for people who say there are no apps for their needs on Mac, I've never had a problem and I work in the IT field completing almost ever task you can think of, I use Mac OS X and Ubuntu and I can say they both have the same type of apps as Windows! Just don't have the games covered.

Well if that's the case... why pay more for the same hardware?

BTW, I wasn't trolling... you think I was because of your bias. "Oh I'm a IT professional and Mac and linux and blah blah blah."

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As for the topic it is just stupid that Apple talks crap about Windows 7 but to be honest it's really the same damn thing since XP or Vista just like Mac OS X snow leopard is the same as leopard. They both just hype minimal changes!

No, it really isn't. A lot of stuff has been improved in Windows 7, it is superior to Vista in almost every way,

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LOL @ this troll

Any *nix system is just more stable than Windows, especially as a server from experiance! But people will blatantly say that they run Windows server *at home* and its awesome!

As for people who say there are no apps for their needs on Mac, I've never had a problem and I work in the IT field completing almost ever task you can think of, I use Mac OS X and Ubuntu and I can say they both have the same type of apps as Windows! Just don't have the games covered.

As for the topic it is just stupid that Apple talks crap about Windows 7 but to be honest it's really the same damn thing since XP or Vista just like Mac OS X snow leopard is the same as leopard. They both just hype minimal changes!

Also Windows is used more and will be used more until Mac's are easier to control in a business environment, but I still don't see much point in businesses moving from Windows XP to 7 at all.

I'd be hesitant to let you wash my car, let alone run a network at my workplace. The fact that you say Win7 is the same as XP proves that you're clueless. So tell me, does your work in the IT field go past running cat-5 cable, or have you graduated up to changing the toner in the printers?

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I have to say that I was surprised when I installed Windows 7 and realized it still couldn't read PDFs. Go Foxit, and go Adobe Reader, they must think...

There are so many PDF documents nowadays that one would think it was a necessity to implement a PDF reader into an OS.

I own a business that works for other business's and I can honestly say that I have had to open only 1 pdf in the last year (most documents I recieve are excel or word docs)

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"Windows 7 is still just Windows. It doesn't change a lot. It's still complex, it's still really expensive when you look at the cost of the upgrade, and there's still security concerns," he said.

Yeah because the upgrade going from PC to MAC is so much cheaper

I ****in lol'd

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I don't understand why apple keep bashing MS to this extend; I agree that MS does the same thing but really not at this level. There ad's are kind of getting old now and every time MS comes out with some new product Apple replies with we've been doing this for years and it's old. Well so is my car; but you don?t see me getting a new BMW, do you?

Also what?s with this "oh people now instead of purchasing windows 7 upgrade they'll look into mac". Rea:/y :/ does buying a $200.00 worth of new software vs. $2000.00 Hardware is justified in this economy. Is it me or only and idiot would do that, not to mention that you have to get same the application that you use to work with in windows to Mac. Which I no doubt would be hard to find and make it work with OSX (unless you bought it from Apple).

Also for people who complaing about not having the upgrade easy cause of the clean install. If you want your software to run perfect, for god sake do a clean installation it's the best way to run you new shiny OS properly.

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Well if that's the case... why pay more for the same hardware?

BTW, I wasn't trolling... you think I was because of your bias. "Oh I'm a IT professional and Mac and linux and blah blah blah."

arrrrrhhh What? I'm bias? I use all OS's just Windows is the least stable...

I'd be hesitant to let you wash my car, let alone run a network at my workplace. The fact that you say Win7 is the same as XP proves that you're clueless. So tell me, does your work in the IT field go past running cat-5 cable, or have you graduated up to changing the toner in the printers?

So as a company why would you move to Windows 7? What would be the point when Windows XP is nice and small and works.

Also what is different between the 2 on a business level, I know there are differences in the GUI (which make things very much harder and annoying from how I see it) but as per applications its the same, you can run the same applications on Windows XP as on Windows 7.

They use cat-5 in networks these days? and toner in printers? NO WAY? LOL

No matter what I say I do your going to find something to pay me out about because I don't have the same view as you, sad really.

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What you be the point when Windows XP is nice and small and works.

We should all go back to 98. It's small and it works.

Actually why do we need new cars, we should go back to using the ones from 1980s, they work fine too. Why new planes? The ones from 1970s do the same thing.

What the hell is wrong with this world and new technology and improvements, lets go back to the stone ages. I mean banging two stones together does the same thing as a lighter, and we can have stone theater!

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Also what’s with this "oh people now instead of purchasing windows 7 upgrade they'll look into mac". Really :/ does buying a $200.00 worth of new software vs. $2000.00 Hardware is justified in this economy. Is it me or only and idiot would do that, not to mention that you have to get same the application that you use to work with in windows to Mac. Which I no doubt would be hard to find and make it work with OSX (unless you bought it from Apple).

Lots of people would buy new machines saying Windows 7.... There are lots of people who won't upgrade because they are not smart enough too.

I guess Apple are aiming AD's at those people... I think its a good idea from Apples part but I don't think it'll work on a huge level, but it might get them some more sales.

We should all go back to 98. It's small and it works.

Actually why do we need new cars, we should go back to using the ones from 1980s, they work fine too. Why new planes? The ones from 1970s do the same thing.

What the hell is wrong with this world and new technology and improvements, lets go back to the stone ages. I mean banging two stones together does the same thing as a lighter, and we can have stone theater!

Do you work in IT... Most businesses work on the basis of:

-Does it work for us

-Cost

-Time

-Training

-etc

-etc

If Windows XP works for the business then why would you fix something thats not broken, why would you outlay more money for issues that might be caused by the upgrade, how long is it going to take for people to be trained for the new OS as not everyone is as computer savvy as you or me.

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As for people who say there are no apps for their needs on Mac, I've never had a problem and I work in the IT field completing almost ever task you can think of, I use Mac OS X and Ubuntu and I can say they both have the same type of apps as Windows!

OSX nor LInux can run the helpdesk or call management software I have to at my job.

Oh, I'm also in the IT field.

Having the same "type of apps" is a LOT different then having "the best app for the job" which in many(not all) cases Windows.

Lets also not forget that once Microsoft sold a UNIX distro, before they created Windows.

So technically Microsoft has "been there done that" with Unix long before OS X was released.

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