Sony To Upgrade PS3 Consoles To 3D


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Hit yourself harder with that palm, if it won't work on every HD TV and will require 3D shutter glasses it is a hardware addon. And look at the diagram, it's part of their strategy that people will invest in Sony products to take advantage of the tech. They aren't adding this function out of the kindness of their hearts.

Bob the fail bus was over an hour ago :rofl:

I don't think I've ever seen a weaker argument to try and claim a software update is actually a hardware addon in disguise.

They're adding this tech to the PS3 to further future proof the device against what will probably be a large buzz around 3D next year. How on earth a firmware update to a console you either own right now, don't own, or plan on buying lays down the carpet for such disapproval is beyond me. I understand a disinterest in 3D if it's not your thing, heck it isn't even my thing, but I do not understand slating a company/hardware for free additions to it's capabilities.

Sony aren't inventing 3D, it's a market interest that many manufacturers have their hands in just now. You either try to stick with the times, or become outdated. Whether you like it or not 3D is picking up some buzz, it's finally becoming a reality of experiencing what you could only experience in a Cinema, in your own Home.

As HawkMan put it all Sony/MS are doing with these consoles is adding as much functionality as they can - If you the consumer can take advantage of the features, power to you, if you can't, well, there's other functionality for you, I have no idea where this hive mindset of whining your ass off if you can't use all 10,000 things your console does has come from - These are multi faceted devices aimed at attracting a broad range of customers. It's not Sony's concern if your HDTV is 3 years old, they need to think about the Student graduating next year, and getting his first big job of which he plans on buying an HDTV out of his paycheck with. That HDTV will be 2010 tech, it's coming with 120Hz, he hears his TV can do 3D (maybe without glasses?), then he looks at his PS3 he's had for 2 years and says "Oh great, my current movie player can do my new Blu Ray movies in 3D at no extra cost".

This topic is about the PS3 and 3D, Sony are not releasing a hardware addon for the PS3, it's capable of supporting 3D with a firmware update. You might not have a TV doing 120Hz, but tough luck, thousands if not millions of other people might have and Sony are merely trying to support that with the PS3 a lot of them might already own.

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Until it can be done without glasses and distortion with a wide viewing angle, you're absolutely right. It will be in the same place it has been for the past fifty years.

If only they would do it this way:

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They're adding this tech to the PS3 to further future proof the device against what will probably be a large buzz around 3D next year.

Which will require new hardware to utilize this feature. Sony wants to sell new TVs. This particular feature is useless without the new hardware. Why is that so hard for you to follow....?? It is very simple logic.

Sony aren't inventing 3D, it's a market interest that many manufacturers have their hands in just now. You either try to stick with the times, or become outdated. Whether you like it or not 3D is picking up some buzz, it's finally becoming a reality of experiencing what you could only experience in a Cinema, in your own Home.

I doubt very much that next year will be the year of the 3D. As other people have already pointed out, the past 50 years hasn't changed 3D much and it is as gimmicky as the PS3 mote or Project Natal. Its one of those things that really doesn't make GAMES any funner, but convinces people to throw more money buying silly hardware.

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Which will require new hardware to utilize this feature. Sony wants to sell new TVs. This particular feature is useless without the new hardware. Why is that so hard for you to follow....?? It is very simple logic.

The hardware doesn't need to change. All it does is render the game through the PS3 in a way that 3D glasses can actually show you a 3D image. So it honestly just does what those 3D movies do, but with your games. The screen need not apply.

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Which will require new hardware to utilize this feature. Sony wants to sell new TVs. This particular feature is useless without the new hardware. Why is that so hard for you to follow....?? It is very simple logic.

I doubt very much that next year will be the year of the 3D. As other people have already pointed out, the past 50 years hasn't changed 3D much and it is as gimmicky as the PS3 mote or Project Natal. Its one of those things that really doesn't make GAMES any funner, but convinces people to throw more money buying silly hardware.

First of all, I'm probably going to grate my eyes out with a block of wood if I need to once again point out the natural curve technology takes. 120Hz IS IN TVS YOU CAN BUY RIGHT NOW. Next year it'll probably be standard in nearly every HDTV.

If you own a 120Hz set right now, how is it new TV hardware you need when this firmware update hits? This firmware update is already "justified" before it even hits for those people. There's been 3D ready HDTVs since 2007.

If you're buying an HDTV for the first time next year, yes it's new hardware, but not from the argument point of view you're trying to make of "oh gosh another $1000 to upgrade my HDTV to 3D, no way! 3D is pointless, I'll keep my current TV thanks". These people are buying an HDTV for the first time to experience HD as a natural upgrade from SD. We aren't talking about tech that is still a dream, it's tech that is working right now. It would be ignorant of Sony not to try and support current and new TV owners next year with 3D in their PS3s if possible just because you own an HDTV that can't do it.

All Sony are telling us the PS3 will support 3D next year, with a firmware update. That support in your player costs nothing. Fact. If you have the hardware to make use of that support, excellent, if not, join the club of people who always own devices with functionality they can't use. I don't think you seen people crying their eyes out at Sony/MS for supporting HD gaming when they only had an SDTV. Different consumers have different needs/budgets/lifestyles/interests, cater for as many as you can if you want mass market appeal.

Your last point, argue about the games all you want, consumer gaming interests are all over the place this generation, but a key component to the PS3 is movies which I've already said are further ahead than games with 3D anyway. We've had 3D movies for quite a while, and there's obviously a plan to bring those 3D movies to Blu Ray through capable hardware, eg your PS3, on a TV that supports it.

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Nice ploy from Sony, lost of less informed people will be all over this.

I don't see how they could make games with equal gfx to current games on the ps3 in 3d anyway unless they upped the specs which obviously isn't going to happen. So guess well see alot of half assed ****ty 3d supported games on the ps3 in the next few years. Woot!

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Some people are such clowns...as if offering 3D to those who want it is doing them a great disservice? If you want 3D then you'll make the necessary hardware investment...at least the free firmware update will give you that choice in the first place.

And if you don't want 3D, stop moaning...this isn't costing you anything or affecting your choice gaming experience in anyway.

It's astonishing how people can make this news a bad thing :s If it works, great...buy into the tech if you want it. If it doesn't...you haven't lost anything whatsoever.

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Nice ploy from Sony, lost of less informed people will be all over this.

I don't see how they could make games with equal gfx to current games on the ps3 in 3d anyway unless they upped the specs which obviously isn't going to happen. So guess well see alot of half assed ****ty 3d supported games on the ps3 in the next few years. Woot!

Wipeout HD, a game that runs in 1080p/60FPS was playable in 3D on a PS3 this year (DirtyLarry played it at CES with Neowin "Wipeout HD in 3D was absolutely stellar in action, and the depth of the 3D was indeed incredibly impressive.").

PS3's new 3D mode captured on video, coming in 2010 to all existing games

Engadget have a video above of it being played.

Gran Turismo 5, another 1080p/60FPS game, and Motorstorm Pacific Rift have also been demoed in 3D.

So really if those sorts of games can be done in 3D, I wouldn't worry too much about your half assed ****ty 3D supported games.

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Nice ploy from Sony, lost of less informed people will be all over this.

I don't see how they could make games with equal gfx to current games on the ps3 in 3d anyway unless they upped the specs which obviously isn't going to happen. So guess well see alot of half assed ****ty 3d supported games on the ps3 in the next few years. Woot!

Well, the PS3 probably would't even need much of an upgrade, I don't even think any game is using the full power of the processor, 3D games would max it out a lot more, the only bad thing would be, the fans would be so much louder lol.

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Well you could complain that developers will now spend more time on their games trying to implement half assed 3d support when they could just be releasing them but even that is barely called for.

I say good on em, Microsoft will follow suit soon, suprised it took this long for either of them to make an announcement actually.

edit: and oh, yous proved me wrong, I always thought to render something in 3d required almost twice the gfx/processing power but good to see the ps3 can handle it.

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So wait, we just got people to buy PS3s, now they need shutter glasses, motion controllers and for many a new TV that supports 120hz? All of the sudden Natal seems like a brilliant idea.

That makes no sense. You do know that Natal isn't gonna be free right? :D lol

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That makes no sense. You do know that Natal isn't gonna be free right? :D lol

You're missing the point Dave, Natal is going to force some people to go out and buy a new house because they don't have enough space to stand-up and interact physically with a camera in their room.

Therefore it's a waste of time for MS to explore new technology advances because of this demographic of people with small houses.

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Well you could complain that developers will now spend more time on their games trying to implement half assed 3d support when they could just be releasing them but even that is barely called for.

I say good on em, Microsoft will follow suit soon, suprised it took this long for either of them to make an announcement actually.

edit: and oh, yous proved me wrong, I always thought to render something in 3d required almost twice the gfx/processing power but good to see the ps3 can handle it.

Developers don't need to do anything actually, since all the PS3 needs to do is render from two camera angles in-game, which can easily be done through the firmware without an update to the game itself (at least that is how they explained it in a demo). So supposedly the software should work with any PS3 game.

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Well I'm thinking that 120Hz makes sense for 2x60Hz not really looked much into it though but certainly a bummer that my Bravia only goes to 100Hz :(

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Considering the article doesn't actually say 'how' it works, speculation will get you no where. 120MHz tvs or not, even on the video shown before you need 3D glasses to view he 3D image, regardless of a 3D ready tv. And also, it is currently impossible to have a fully 3D effect without the use of them glasses. I would love to see a video proving me otherwise.

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Source: http://kotaku.com/5408308/sony-to-upgrade-ps3-consoles-to-3d

Hey you might need a new TV, but at least every PS3 will work :laugh:

Nice, AB. But i have to ask, how do you stay on top of these breaking gaming industry headlines? It seems like you're posting nonstop (24/7) sometimes!

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Some people may, but again read my point....

I did, but it doesn't mean that a bunch of people (a majority, I would guess) wouldn't need to change their TV to take advantage of this. That's all I'm saying.

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I did, but it doesn't mean that a bunch of people (a majority, I would guess) wouldn't need to change their TV to take advantage of this. That's all I'm saying.

That may be so, but it in no way should stop Sony for providing such support to

a) Future proof the PS3

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b) Deliver the service to be capable of receiving it

As I've said in this topic I've not known a generation of consoles where people overreact and cry so much over additional functionality just because THEY can't use it. When we had our PS2s/Xbox's, more so PS2 (no online service), we never seen 1 new operating system orientated feature. Now we get future proof hardware that's added to all the time and people ball their eyes out constantly. I understand the constant Xbox Live/PSN rage fits (hey people have to justify their opinions constantly to make themselves feel better), but a topic on Sony saying they'll add 3D to the PS3 in 2010 through a firmware update causing a backlash and people going on about Natal?

I fully expect MS to add 3D support to the 360 if possible, I believe Sony are being more upfront about it as they have the movie industry to try and encourage, seeing as I suspect only Blu Ray films will be presented in 3D (maybe it's possible with DVD, I don't know). Movies have a much bigger presence in 3D than games, and if anything is going to get people interested in home 3D, it's probably going to be movies first, then games.

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Funny cuz I just bought a PS3 last nigh...lets just say it ****es me off that you have to install demos after you download them. Wish they could do what MS did with the Xbox360, where there is no install.

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