+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 10, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted December 10, 2009 It's another clash of the titans as Microsoft and Sony fight for gaming console superiority. The PS3 has yet to win the prizefight ring. Will its fortunes change this time? Video: http://cnettv.cnet.com/xbox-360-elite-vs-p...3-50080611.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Wow. That was, just wow. I think that the PS3 and X360's graphics are equally matched. Exclusives on the PS3 look better vs. exclusives on the X360, but third party games look a bit better on the X360 so that evens it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted December 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2009 A little video like this can really help the PS3 move a few more units. I know for example my father-in-law always goes to C Net before making a purchase, so yeah this might have moved just a few more units for Sony. I am not talking major numbers by any means, but it helps nonetheless. I gotta say though, that kid is the biggest tool I have seen in a long time. The little scene with him playing the PS3 and then he looks at the camera like a cool guy, OMG that was truly LOL awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Decent video, but factual fail on Fallout DLC being exclusive at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User6060 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 As far as value goes the PS3 wins for sure, but if LIVE is your thing then nothing matters other than chatting into that crappy quality standard head piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted December 10, 2009 MVC Share Posted December 10, 2009 Where are the videos for the previous videos the PS3 lost? I guess the major part that he mentioned is the graphics which is good, but he didn't mention how many years PS3 gamers have had to wait for those kinds of graphics. If the waiting game is fine, well then no biggie but I would have wanted some more AAA titles before this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00000 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I gotta say though, that kid is the biggest tool I have seen in a long time. The little scene with him playing the PS3 and then he looks at the camera like a cool guy, OMG that was truly LOL awful. Agreed, that video would have been much more enjoyable if those were real fists punching him in the face at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Lyons10 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 This is an interesting comparison. I would agree on some of the points, but the difference in graphics to me just weren't noticeable... They just kept showing Uncharted... Was that a standout? Or have the graphics improved across the board? If it's only a couple of games I don't know that it's fair to give the PS3 the edge there, but I haven't seen Uncharted... I will say that if playing online, arcade games, DLC, etc. is your thing the XBox 360 is definitely the way to go. Personally I got rid of my PS3 as I found myself only playing the 360, but everyone's opinion is different... Where are the videos for the previous videos the PS3 lost? I guess the major part that he mentioned is the graphics which is good, but he didn't mention how many years PS3 gamers have had to wait for those kinds of graphics. If the waiting game is fine, well then no biggie but I would have wanted some more AAA titles before this year. That's a good point. Plus, previously it would have lost value as well. This is comparing the Slim though. I think Microsoft needs a price drop here to be honest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBlood Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Xbox needs to bit the bullet and add a new version with a blu-ray. The cost of adding a blu-ray shouldn't be that much now. It should only cost a extra $45 to $55 to the over all cost. Also, the wireless N should be built into the system too. I like to get a Xbox 360 but, I would only buy one if it had a blu-ray in the system. I'll just wait ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Lyons10 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Bluray would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_onion Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Xbox needs to bit the bullet and add a new version with a blu-ray. The cost of adding a blu-rayshouldn't be that much now. It should only cost a extra $45 to $55 to the over all cost. Also, the wireless N should be built into the system too. I like to get a Xbox 360 but, I would only buy one if it had a blu-ray in the system. I'll just wait ... but I dont need wireless or bluray why would I want to pay money for stuff I don't need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neocongirl Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Gears and L4D are both on the PC as well as the first two Halo's, so really they shouldn't count as platform exclusive franchises at all because if you have a decent PC you don't need a 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 10, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted December 10, 2009 This is an interesting comparison. I would agree on some of the points, but the difference in graphics to me just weren't noticeable... They just kept showing Uncharted... Was that a standout? Or have the graphics improved across the board? If it's only a couple of games I don't know that it's fair to give the PS3 the edge there, but I haven't seen Uncharted...I will say that if playing online, arcade games, DLC, etc. is your thing the XBox 360 is definitely the way to go. Personally I got rid of my PS3 as I found myself only playing the 360, but everyone's opinion is different... KZ2 was the first wow-looking game, have a look at this comparison There's no doubts the 1st party devs on the PS3 are squeezing more out of the console than MS' 1st party devs (graphically), it's just a shame that multiplatform devs struggle with porting at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 KZ2 does look amazing and the single-player campaign ticked every box for me (once you realised the cover system was very important anyway) but the multiplayer was just awful. KZ2 is probably one of my most favourite games of recent times. I'm not sure graphics mean all that much to me these days. Sure, it's nice to have something as sweet looking as Uncharted 2 but, then again, Dragon's Age hardly sets the world on fire with its graphics but the gameplay and storyline are top notch and I'd rank them closely in a top ten. I've got nothing against the xbox (except the RROD stuff) and the only reason I chose ps3 is because more of my friends owned it. I considered buying an xbox recently for their RPG back catalog but eventually settled on a new pc instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted December 10, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted December 10, 2009 Killzone 2 was just kickass, good story and awesome graphics, it made it really fun to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted December 10, 2009 MVC Share Posted December 10, 2009 KZ2 was the first wow-looking game, have a look at this comparison There's no doubts the 1st party devs on the PS3 are squeezing more out of the console than MS' 1st party devs (graphically), it's just a shame that multiplatform devs struggle with porting at times. I agree but I think it is due in part to some of the time aspect that I mentioned before. KZ2 was arguably in development and shown at E3 '05 or '06. When you work on a single game that much longer, of course it is going to look better. Now if Epic would have done what Uncharted did, GOW might have had a chance. Wait until late 2007 to put out the first GOW instead of November 2006, and then the engine could have been further refined from 1 to 2 as in Uncharted 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 10, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted December 10, 2009 I agree but I think it is due in part to some of the time aspect that I mentioned before. KZ2 was arguably in development and shown at E3 '05 or '06. When you work on a single game that much longer, of course it is going to look better. Now if Epic would have done what Uncharted did, GOW might have had a chance. Wait until late 2007 to put out the first GOW instead of November 2006, and then the engine could have been further refined from 1 to 2 as in Uncharted 2. To be fair the Unreal 3 engine while flexible isn't really all that great for showcasing games - It has flaws like texture pop-in and "samey" looking games (you can usually tell when it's an Unreal powered game). It is a good looking engine, but due to Epics focus on creating a scalable multiplatform engine they're unlikely to ever push a console as much as a dedicated developer. The reason games like UC2 and KZ2 look so amazing is they are proprietary engines built solely for the use on one platform. They don't need to work off any common low denominators of other platforms, or be all that flexible in the sense that the Unreal engine is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted December 10, 2009 MVC Share Posted December 10, 2009 To be fair the Unreal 3 engine while flexibility isn't really all that great for showcasing games - It has flaws like texture pop-in and "samey" looking games (you can usually tell when it's an Unreal powered game).The reason games like UC2 and KZ2 look so amazing is they are proprietary engines built solely for the use on one platform. They don't need to work off any common low denominators of other platforms, or be all that flexible in the sense that the Unreal engine is. Yep that was the other thing I didn't mention. I wasn't for sure if UC had an engine slowly for the PS3 (didn't look it up) but KZ2 was built using Havoc which is multiplatform (but just a really long development time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coresx Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 360 is really starting to look old now. Quite fat too sitting beside the PS3. Definitely needs a price cut next year and the introduction of a new slim model, I can't see the current design lasting the next few years unless MS want to release another console earlier again. Still that big with that power brick. Poor. Anyway, has great games and Xbox Live which are winners right there for most people. Will be interesting to see if Sony can keep selling more month after month to see what Microsoft would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 10, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted December 10, 2009 Yep that was the other thing I didn't mention. I wasn't for sure if UC had an engine slowly for the PS3 (didn't look it up) but KZ2 was built using Havoc which is multiplatform (but just a really long development time). Nah it's not, Killzone 2 is a proprietary engine, it might use the Havok physics engine (that's just a physics engine), but the game engine itself is made from the ground up. Michal Valient, a Senior Programmer at Guerrilla Games, presented details of their Killzone 2 proprietary game engine at a Developers Conference in July 2007. http://www.guerrilla-games.com/publication...2_rsx_dev07.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Gears and L4D are both on the PC as well as the first two Halo's, so really they shouldn't count as platform exclusive franchises at all because if you have a decent PC you don't need a 360. You post this a lot but it doesn't matter, we are talking console vs console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 KZ2 uses propitiatory differed rendering engine with havok powering physics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted December 10, 2009 MVC Share Posted December 10, 2009 Nah it's not, Killzone 2 is a proprietary engine, it might use the Havok physics engine (that's just a physics engine), but the game engine itself is made from the ground up.http://www.guerrilla-games.com/publication...2_rsx_dev07.pdf Thought that was weird when I saw Havoc as the main engine under Wiki (considering I thought it was a physics engine) but looks like I needed to do some more research. :p Like we have already seen this generation, as the 360 builds its developer base it will eventually be able to do more Microsoft only releases. I still can't believe just how many 360 exclusives there have been this generation regardless being this is only their second console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Killzone 2 was my biggest disappointment for 2009. I've written about it in other threads so I'll just write it as that here. To be fair the Unreal 3 engine while flexible isn't really all that great for showcasing games - It has flaws like texture pop-in and "samey" looking games (you can usually tell when it's an Unreal powered game). It is a good looking engine, but due to Epics focus on creating a scalable multiplatform engine they're unlikely to ever push a console as much as a dedicated developer. As far as UE3 and its "samey" looking games, I always like to direct people to Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I was at work when I first read this, just watched the cnet video, lol at that poor attempt at a legit comparison. The only category you have to give to the PS3 is accessories/built in features (although still putting 802.11g in the Slim is lame). Almost every other category was subjective at best, design is pure opinion ; the slim is good looking but it still looks retarded in my A/V rack and don't act like the 360s power brick sits in front of your TV. Graphics are equal: KZ2 and Uncharted 2 look great, but the other 240 titles should be considered, cross platform games need to weigh more in this area. You can't ignore the issues with so many other PS3 games and graphics in a fair comparison. I love my PS3 but I've been waiting 3 years for Sony to address the difficulty devs have been having, cross games chat and better friends functionality and a better overall experience. You have to stretch the truth to say the PS3 is a better gaming experience than the 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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