Subject Delta Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I am going on overall world marketshare, not region by region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted February 4, 2010 MVC Share Posted February 4, 2010 Actually it doesn't look like chrome, it's almost a carbon copy ripoff of the Opera 10.5 UI, with the exception of the home button being in a different place. Way to be original Mozilla (Y) I'd just like to point out that the Firefox mockup was released before the public saw the Opera 10.5 UI. (Click Here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I'd just like to point out that the Firefox mockup was released before the public saw the Opera 10.5 UI. (Click Here) Opera's was being worked on internally way before the Firefox mockup however. It does raise the question as to how they ended up so similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreKe Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I am going on overall world marketshare, not region by region. In that case you are going by the US region because these stats are heavily US-centric. I'd just like to point out that the Firefox mockup was released before the public saw the Opera 10.5 UI. (Click Here) Maybe you should read the comments. Opera has had that button since version 10.0, only disabled by default until 10.5. Also, the mockups were published two days after the leaked pre-alpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 In that case you are going by the US region because these stats are heavily US-centric. Maybe you should read the comments. Opera has had that button since version 10.0, only disabled by default until 10.5. Also, the mockups were published two days after the leaked pre-alpha. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp suggests to me that the global share is around 2.2%, but it is still low enough to shoot down your argument that Mozilla are somehow copying Opera's design because they are expecting a mass exodus of users. And if that feature has always been in Opera, and if the mockups where actually published after the Opera alpha leaks, you do realise that simply leads even more credence to the argument that they are copying Opera's design, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted February 4, 2010 MVC Share Posted February 4, 2010 I'm not talking just about the button. But the overall UI. In fact, looking at both of the screenshots provided by that article make me think this isn't even an argument worth arguing about since they're really not all that much alike anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreKe Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp suggests to me that the global share is around 2.2%, but it is still low enough to shoot down your argument that Mozilla are somehow copying Opera's design because they are expecting a mass exodus of users. And if that feature has always been in Opera, and if the mockups where actually published after the Opera alpha leaks, you do realise that simply leads even more credence to the argument that they are copying Opera's design, right? Those stats are even less relevant because they are only for that single site. I don't get the parts about the design. First you claim that I claimed that Mozilla are copying Opera because they are expecting a mass exodus, something I never claimed. Then you mention the fact that the button has been there since Opera 10.0 which means that Mozilla copied it, if either of them did. Seems to be a contradiction there. All I did was to refute the claim that Opera copied Mozilla. I didn't claim that anyone copied anyone. But if anyone did copy anything, it was Mozilla that copied Opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 So what's the plan for Firefox 3.7? The GUI will be the same of 3.6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Those stats are even less relevant because they are only for that single site. I don't get the parts about the design. First you claim that I claimed that Mozilla are copying Opera because they are expecting a mass exodus, something I never claimed. Then you mention the fact that the button has been there since Opera 10.0 which means that Mozilla copied it, if either of them did. Seems to be a contradiction there. All I did was to refute the claim that Opera copied Mozilla. I didn't claim that anyone copied anyone. But if anyone did copy anything, it was Mozilla that copied Opera. I never made the claim that Opera copied Mozilla :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted February 4, 2010 Member Share Posted February 4, 2010 I never made the claim that Opera copied Mozilla :blink: But they do, don't they? Opera always seems to have it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 But they do, don't they? Opera always seems to have it first. Huh? how could Opera copy Mozilla if they have it first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-byte Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 So what's the plan for Firefox 3.7? The GUI will be the same of 3.6? It was droped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreKe Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I never made the claim that Opera copied Mozilla :blink: That's now what I said. What I was trying to say is that you made it sound like I said that Opera copied Mozilla even though I actually pointed out that Opera had it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 It was droped. I believe that's not exactly true: it may be dropped, but they just haven't quite settled on the exact release plan at the moment. It's looking more likely, though, afaik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myownfriend Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I'd just like to point out that the Firefox mockup was released before the public saw the Opera 10.5 UI. (Click Here) ...but a darker version of that button has been in Opera since Opera 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I believe that's not exactly true: it may be dropped, but they just haven't quite settled on the exact release plan at the moment. It's looking more likely, though, afaik. I know it wasn't dropped. Mozilla is actively working on 1.9.3. My question is if the GUI will be the same of 3.6? I think the new mockups are now planned for FF 4, but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted February 5, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 5, 2010 They're using the version "Firefox.next" as when the UI work is going to be in it, whether that's 3.7 or 4.0 is another matter. It does look like there's going to be an intermediate release based on 3.6 that's going to contain out of process plugins, that might become 3.6.2 (etc.) or jump to 3.7, It's still being discussed. Kirkburn 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 They're using the version "Firefox.next" as when the UI work is going to be in it, whether that's 3.7 or 4.0 is another matter. It does look like there's going to be an intermediate release based on 3.6 that's going to contain out of process plugins, that might become 3.6.2 (etc.) or jump to 3.7, It's still being discussed. What he said :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+kpo6969 Subscriber¹ Posted February 6, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 6, 2010 They're using the version "Firefox.next" as when the UI work is going to be in it, whether that's 3.7 or 4.0 is another matter. It does look like there's going to be an intermediate release based on 3.6 that's going to contain out of process plugins, that might become 3.6.2 (etc.) or jump to 3.7, It's still being discussed. What he said :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 <snip> It really helps to use words, sometimes. What was your point? That there is a build labelled 3.6.2pre in existence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Or is that default theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Or is that default theme? Very much doubt it. The tickets for the updates are only just being filed, now that a design direction has been settled on. The current mockups (last updated a couple of days ago) are on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/4.0_Windows_Theme_Mockups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted February 6, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 6, 2010 Or is that default theme? Oh god no, it's a custom theme. The default theme would never look that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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