Massiveterra Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 But isn't MAG a Faux-Massive Action Game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 31, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted December 31, 2009 But isn't MAG a Faux-Massive Action Game? I got an A in Higher English, but for once I don't really know what you mean Massive :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 I got an A in Higher English, but for once I don't really know what you mean Massive :p Haha sorry I guess it was an ambiguous question. I haven't played the beta, but based on what I've read, 256 players don't actually play at the same time, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 31, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted December 31, 2009 Haha sorry I guess it was an ambiguous question. I haven't played the beta, but based on what I've read, 256 players don't actually play at the same time, no? Yeah they do play at the same time, but it's such a large map they're spread out well. Although there are sometimes choke points or objectives where everyone or most of the map comes together and it's mayhem (in a good and bad way). I'd spend some more time explaining mechanics of the modes better to you, but I gotta get ready to head out soon. I'll do it later if no one else has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 I see... it does sound interesting. But I doubt I will ever play it. As far as January I'll only be playing Bayonetta and Mass Effect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Enough of Vietnam? We barely had any Vietnam related games, except a few budget titles. The only Vietnam game that stands out in my mind is BF: Vietnam. Then you haven't been playing games very long. Here's a few titles that come to mind, besides BF:V. 2 are flight sims and I think one is an rpg of sorts, the rest are shooters. Shell Shock Nam '67 Shell Shock 2 Blood Trails Conflict Vietnam Vietcong Vietcong 2 Vietcong Fist Alpha (expansion pack) Line of Sight Vietnam Elite Warriors Vietnam The Hell in Vietnam Men of Valor Wings Over Vietnam Strike Fighters 2 Vietnam Vietnam: Ho Chi Minh Trail There's been plenty of Vietnam based games over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yeah and how many were mainstream games that were actually in the spotlight? Not even half of those, it's mostly just budget crap your listing to suit your argument. You can't get sick of en era or a genre when nobody plays it. And if that's your argument we had to be sick of every game ever released because the amount of budget / crap games released each year that goes unmentioned and unnoticed are in the hundreds :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Budget titles or not, the fact is games of all sorts based on Vietnam have been around for 20+ years now, and WW2 titles have been made for just as long. In fact there's even more of those. If nobody played budget titles, then the devs would probably quit making them. But sadly they haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 The argument wasn't, we haven't had a single Vietnam based game whatsoever - The argument is; we haven't had a whole lot of mainstream Vietnam based games and that's true. How can you possibly argue we've had too many Vietnam games when all you can come up with is a list of games most people haven't played, let alone heard of? People got sick of World War II because way to many MAINSTREAM games, games that our friends played and were hyped in the media, used the era and that's just an example - Now we have a cycle of Zombie games and the games based off modern warfare is slowly starting. We haven't had a Vietnam cycle, people can't be sick of a game when only half-arsed developers nobody cares about released an abysmal title ages ago. I have a question, how many are sick of World War 2 games? And how many are sick of Vietnam games? I'm certainly not sick of Vietnam games because I have played ONE in the last 10 years and that's Battlefield: Vietnam - Most people I know even considered that a flop compared to all the other BF titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I'm certainly not sick of Vietnam games because I have played ONE in the last 10 years and that's Battlefield: Vietnam - Most people I know even considered that a flop compared to all the other BF titles. Was made by the DICE team located in CA I think rather than LOLSWE?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buio Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Middle ground? Who made that term up.In the Neowin GH there is never a middle ground, it's either gushing love GOTY best thing ever, or total pile of **** who made this crap? Yeah, it's that binary 0 or 1 opinion that is fairly common, either goty or crap. Fairly standard on GT and other game sites too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 The argument wasn't, we haven't had a single Vietnam based game whatsoever - The argument is; we haven't had a whole lot of mainstream Vietnam based games and that's true. How can you possibly argue we've had too many Vietnam games when all you can come up with is a list of games most people haven't played, let alone heard of? People got sick of World War II because way to many MAINSTREAM games, games that our friends played and were hyped in the media, used the era and that's just an example - Now we have a cycle of Zombie games and the games based off modern warfare is slowly starting. We haven't had a Vietnam cycle, people can't be sick of a game when only half-arsed developers nobody cares about released an abysmal title ages ago. I have a question, how many are sick of World War 2 games? And how many are sick of Vietnam games? I'm certainly not sick of Vietnam games because I have played ONE in the last 10 years and that's Battlefield: Vietnam - Most people I know even considered that a flop compared to all the other BF titles. You are the only one trying to draw a line between mainstream games and budget games. Games are games, it's that simple. If you've been playing pc and console games for as long as me, you might be sick of them as well. It's been 29 years since I started gaming. Longer really since my first video game ever was a Pong clone. And all the zombie games suck, as do all of the WW2 games, with the exceptions of Wolfenstein and the BIA series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 You are the only one trying to draw a line between mainstream games and budget games. Games are games, it's that simple.If you've been playing pc and console games for as long as me, you might be sick of them as well. It's been 29 years since I started gaming. Longer really since my first video game ever was a Pong clone. And all the zombie games suck, as do all of the WW2 games, with the exceptions of Wolfenstein and the BIA series. I'm completely baffled by your argument, so you're basically saying a game that were never any good, wasn't popular and wasn't purchased by enough users to hit the mainstream market, still manages to define every other game in years to come and define the markets opinion towards whatever genre or era the game represents? What a load of dung :laugh: The Vietnam era has not been represented properly and truly deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 there was a really good game set in Vietnam.. i dont remember its name.. but the drill sarg used some pretty rough language. it was 18+ i think. btw it was old.. like 2005 or older.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I'm completely baffled by your argument, so you're basically saying a game that were never any good, wasn't popular and wasn't purchased by enough users to hit the mainstream market, still manages to define every other game in years to come and define the markets opinion towards whatever genre or era the game represents? What a load of dung :laugh:The Vietnam era has not been represented properly and truly deserves it. You're baffled because you're trying to read into something that isn't there. I never said anything about defining genres, market opinions, or mainstream versus budget titles. Those are all things you brought up. I only stated 2 things concerning Vietnam based games: 1. There have been plenty of them over the years. This is fact, whether you agree or not. 2. I've played a lot of them, and they all suck, including BF:V. This is not a "market opinion" as you put it. It is only my opinion. Is that clear enough for you? I didn't set out to argue with you or anyone else here and I'm not looking for someone to agree with me. I merely posted my opinion based on my experience. Just because my experience doesn't agree with yours doesn't make it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Then don't start a post with "Hasn't the world had enough of Vietnam and WW2 shooters yet?" when the world clearly hasn't had enough, because the "world" avoided the current titles like the plague because most / all of them were rubbish and thus they don't make people sick of Vietnam - Do you understand that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 COD:WAW is the closest we'll get to a top quality Vietnam title - can't imagine any game based on Vietnam would be much different since they and the Japanese fought in a broadly similar style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 COD:WAW is the closest we'll get to a top quality Vietnam title - can't imagine any game based on Vietnam would be much different since they and the Japanese fought in a broadly similar style. You're kidding me, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Nope - what makes you think I am? The sections where you're fighting in the jungle vs Japanese is brilliant. Anything based on Vietnam would be doing well to come that close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Omen1393 Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 1. Battlefield Bad Company 2 will be very popular. 2. Crysis 2 will come out 3. Starcraft 2 will come out. 4. Battlefield 3 announced possibly? That's all that i'm really interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HilariousNinja Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I read an interesting though on the SixthAxis that got me thinking... Halo:Reach to be a launch title with Natal? The player can 'talk' to his comrades and issue commands and stuff? Reach ---> Hands!! You can see where I'm going with this :laugh: Although apart from that: 1. Gears of War 3 Announced sometime 2. Call of Duty 7 (Cold War-based) announced for release in 2011 3. Killzone 3 Announced 4. Twisted Metal PS3 (PLEASE!) 5. PSP2 for release in time for next Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Then don't start a post with "Hasn't the world had enough of Vietnam and WW2 shooters yet?" when the world clearly hasn't had enough, because the "world" avoided the current titles like the plague because most / all of them were rubbish and thus they don't make people sick of Vietnam - Do you understand that? Now I get it. You are obviously the only one allowed to have an opinion. How arrogant of me to think I could have one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) Now I get it.You are obviously the only one allowed to have an opinion. How arrogant of me to think I could have one too. Yeah, finally you got it :rolleyes: Don't contest my opinion and then go all cry-baby when I argue it. Sometimes you'd think a scientist somewhere gave life to pieces of driftwood and registered them here just to see how they'd fare, making me have to explain everything 5 times and putting up with people who just turn everything 180* and start to sound offended. -.- Edited January 2, 2010 by Sethos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Then you haven't been playing games very long.Here's a few titles that come to mind, besides BF:V. 2 are flight sims and I think one is an rpg of sorts, the rest are shooters. Shell Shock Nam '67 Shell Shock 2 Blood Trails Conflict Vietnam Vietcong Vietcong 2 Vietcong Fist Alpha (expansion pack) Line of Sight Vietnam Elite Warriors Vietnam The Hell in Vietnam Men of Valor Wings Over Vietnam Strike Fighters 2 Vietnam Vietnam: Ho Chi Minh Trail There's been plenty of Vietnam based games over the years. None of those games were mainstream games though; they were all low-budget titles hardly played by anyone because they were universally panned by critics (Shell Shock, especially). Battlefield Vietnam is the only mainstream Vietnam title from recent years. Sethos is right in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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