[Rumour] Blizzard giving consideration to mandatory authenticators


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Yes but for those two months I'm getting ...TWO MONTHS OF WoW - 60 DAYS OF WORLD OF WARCRAFT, TWO MONTHS OF GAMING with the Blizzard Authenticator I get ... NOTHING, I get a piece of plastic that doesn't help me because I know how to safe-guard my account, I'm paying for a piece of plastic that in the end just saves costs and time for Blizzard.

If you play World of Warcraft on Public / your friends computers or you have been hacked several times, buying this dongle will benefit you and actually give you something for your money but in my case, I get nothing - I'm just throwing money into thin air.

Er. Sethos.. You do realize..

You're not just protecting your WoW account..

You're protecting your entire Battle.net account.

That covers :

Purchases on the Blizzard stores, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, WoW.. and whatever else they may come up with.

If you ask me.. it's worth it.

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Er. Sethos.. You do realize..

You're not just protecting your WoW account..

You're protecting your entire Battle.net account.

Considering I only have WoW accounts on my Battle.net account, which I was also forced to convert to, it's hardly a problem. Before you ask / edit, I have no interest in either Diablo III or Starcraft II which I'm sure I'd have to associate with my Battle.net account.

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The shipping fee is 49 cents American.. if that.

If you can stave off eating a cheese burger meal at Burger King for one day, you can afford an authenticator to protect your account.

I should know, I own one.

Try in excess of $60.

Shipping is only cheap in the US.

Australia costs a bucketload.

If the Authenticator is mandatory, it better come in the cataclysm box...cause i wont be paying for it.

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Try in excess of $60.

Shipping is only cheap in the US.

Australia costs a bucketload.

If the Authenticator is mandatory, it better come in the cataclysm box...cause i wont be paying for it.

Copy and paste from the EU blizzard store:

Please note:

Shipping fees have been waived on this product to reduce the cost to the consumer, and the new price for each Authenticator has been adjusted to cover the new lower shipping cost (6.99€ / 6.29 GBP per unit). For example, if you purchase 1 unit, the final price will be 6.99€. If you purchased 2, the price would be 13.98€, and so on, with no additional shipping costs. The special price is only available for orders composed exclusively of authenticators. You can order up to 5 Authenticators at once. As a result, shipment tracking is not available and your order can take from 3 to 8 business days to arrive. The authenticator may be associated with your World of Warcraft account(s) through Account Management when it is received.

The same applies to the US. There are simply no shipping costs anymore.

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Copy and paste from the EU blizzard store:

Please note:

Shipping fees have been waived on this product to reduce the cost to the consumer, and the new price for each Authenticator has been adjusted to cover the new lower shipping cost (6.99€ / 6.29 GBP per unit). For example, if you purchase 1 unit, the final price will be 6.99€. If you purchased 2, the price would be 13.98€, and so on, with no additional shipping costs. The special price is only available for orders composed exclusively of authenticators. You can order up to 5 Authenticators at once. As a result, shipment tracking is not available and your order can take from 3 to 8 business days to arrive. The authenticator may be associated with your World of Warcraft account(s) through Account Management when it is received.

The same applies to the US. There are simply no shipping costs anymore.

That is great, but too bad that they don't ship to many countries. Well, my country at least. :(

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My thoughts is, if you want to make it mandatory, include it in the next expansion box.

Aye, considering the thing goes in and out of stock almost every week and coupled with the fact not everyone wants an inferior iphone. They need to make getting hold of them much easier.

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I'm all for this idea. I got an Authenticator last year. They do free authenticators for the iPhone & iPod touch and I believe other mobile devices are supported as-well so there really is no reason not to get one.

It is really easy to get your account compromised. Imagine you go to the WoWWiki to look something up and while your still on that page you log in to the game. It is possible for that page to run scripts that log your keys even if you don't have the window in the foreground. That is how most accounts are compromised and the Authenticator helps to make this attack useless. I got mine just for the peace of mind it provides and it was worth every penny!

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Meh. Why not just have more security built into accounts and more done again phishers / keyloggers?

For example,

1. Have at least 3 security questions and an auth code sent to the original signup email, if the account is used with a new IP address ask for those answers AND the auth code. If the code is lost then you have to request a new one manually - which takes a week and a half. In that time if the account was stolen the original owner should have reported it missing and therefore Blizzard would have the IP of one "phisher" or "hacker" / "cracker".

2. Encrypt all text used on the client - protection against keyloggers? I have seen software which encrypts text against keyloggers avaliable for years - why hasnt this been put into the WoW client for logins and such? For example .. if my password was "JohnSmith123" it would show up to a keylogger as - "EJFREjGJR95DJAKfjJGRTGJG385JFJJ" and would follow a SHA1 or similar encryption process - SHA1 so far hasnt been reverse engineered as well.

3. Ban IP's of people whom Blizzard know phish accounts.

What do you think guys? ;)

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No one is being force to use the authenticator, you only have to use the authenticator if you wish to play WoW. There is a difference between being forced to do something and something being a condition of service. WoW is a service and if you don't want to conform to their terms you simply cancel your account. If 6 USD or 11 EUR is too much, I suggest you stop playing WOW and get an education and a better job so that you aren't complaining about such a nominal fee.

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in my guild anyone that has access to the bank (whether it is simply deposit or full access) it is required that you have one or else you will be demoted.

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Already pay ?9 a month for the subscription, like heck i'm paying ?7 for one of those tokens. If they do this, i'll definately go to Aion.

As said above, if it comes with Cataclysm then that'll be alright.

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No one is being force to use the authenticator, you only have to use the authenticator if you wish to play WoW. There is a difference between being forced to do something and something being a condition of service. WoW is a service and if you don't want to conform to their terms you simply cancel your account. If 6 USD or 11 EUR is too much, I suggest you stop playing WOW and get an education and a better job so that you aren't complaining about such a nominal fee.

It's not about the fee, it's the fact that they are only doing this to make their lives easier. And if they are going to require the authenticators, then they should be handing them out, after all, this is about the customers security.

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No one is being force to use the authenticator, you only have to use the authenticator if you wish to play WoW. There is a difference between being forced to do something and something being a condition of service. WoW is a service and if you don't want to conform to their terms you simply cancel your account. If 6 USD or 11 EUR is too much, I suggest you stop playing WOW and get an education and a better job so that you aren't complaining about such a nominal fee.

Such a classic argument, instead of understanding the meaning of the word "Principle" then you just make some lame dig about people's jobs etc.

I probably make three times what you do (Y)

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Already pay ?9 a month for the subscription, like heck i'm paying ?7 for one of those tokens. If they do this, i'll definately go to Aion.

As said above, if it comes with Cataclysm then that'll be alright.

You would rather pay ?40 plus an additional ?9 for Aion then a one time ?7 fee? Really? Talk about stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime.

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Such a classic argument, instead of understanding the meaning of the word "Principle" then you just make some lame dig about people's jobs etc.

I probably make three times what you do (Y)

With or without currency translation?

What exactly is the principle that you are referring to? That Blizzard is somehow obligated to incure costs because users are too dense to keep their accounts safe? How about instead of Blizzard forcing users to use authenticators they instead begin to raise subscription fees to offset the additional manpower required to tend to hacked accounts? Would that be more in line with your principle? The sad thing is that you probably do make a lot of money but you are failing to connect the dots on such a simple idea. The proposal that authenticaors be used is a long term fix that will allow them to keep subscription fees down because it will allow them to keep costs down. Use your brain.

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You would rather pay ?40 plus an additional ?9 for Aion then a one time ?7 fee? Really? Talk about stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime.

Yes I would. It's not the cost that's the issue, it's the principal. What's next; ?10 to go to a 25 man raid? ?2 to use the flight paths?

Plus they're all ready charging ludicrous amounts to move server, change race etc...

The guys at Blizz are rolling in it! 12,000,000 subscribers * say an average of ?8 per month per subscriber - ?96,000,000 per month in subs alone!

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Yes I would. It's not the cost that's the issue, it's the principal. What's next; ?10 to go to a 25 man raid? ?2 to use the flight paths?

They're all ready charging ludicrous amounts to move server, change race etc...

Which were services that were never available until they spent more money to provide them, do you understand business?

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Which were services that were never available until they spent more money to provide them, do you understand business?

Evidently you're going to argue anything anyone else says, so I'm going to unsubscribe from this thread.

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With or without currency translation?

What exactly is the principle that you are referring to? That Blizzard is somehow obligated to incure costs because users are too dense to keep their accounts safe? How about instead of Blizzard forcing users to use authenticators they instead begin to raise subscription fees to offset the additional manpower required to tend to hacked accounts? Would that be more in line with your principle? The sad thing is that you probably do make a lot of money but you are failing to connect the dots on such a simple idea. The proposal that authenticaors be used is a long term fix that will allow them to keep subscription fees down because it will allow them to keep costs down. Use your brain.

I have already posted my views on this in the thread, why does people always seem to breeze by the entire thread just to repeat the same argument one more time? And you are fully aware that the game is based on monthly subscription so not only have I paid enough money to cover both game-time and a Ferrari for one of the employees, they also rake in enough cash on a larger scale to buy a medium sized country every year - Stop setting this up as if they were barely making ends meat :rolleyes:

So I'd say use your brain and stop just bending over every time a company wants to squeeze you for a bit of extra cash, at least grow some balls and stand up for a few simple principles no matter how mundane they are or at the very least, let other people do it.

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I don't agree on the idea of mandatory authenticators.

However, if your account gets hacked, I think Blizzard should just tell you to **** off. It takes a lot of time and effort to restore an account, and they can't be sure you're being 100% honest anyway.

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Plus they're all ready charging ludicrous amounts to move server, change race etc...

These are extra SERVICES that are there for people to use them if they so choose. You aren't required to get a name change, race change, faction change, server move, appearance change. They are also following the prices for these services long set by the original EQ. They couldn't require everyone to have an authenticator unless they provided one in the next expansion.

Would you expect to go get a haircut and get a free dye job as well? Of course not.

Restoring an account doesn't take too much time or effort. All it takes is a quick look through logs to see where the logged IP was changed, get the timestamp, take the backup and merge it in to the database. Apart from finding the timestamp for which to restore, the rest could be done automatically.

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