George P Global Moderator Posted January 12, 2010 Global Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2010 Well there should be yet another die shrink this year I'd think. And other changes to drop costs down and reduce power and heat even more. The PC side of things are starting to move to 32nm now so who knows how MS will handle it. It's pretty quiet on that side of things. I was hoping the 360 would be at the stage where the CPU and GPU are on the same chip and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apreichner Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I got my friends old broken console fixed from Microsoft about 6 months ago or so. It's one of the older ones without HDMI. It was covered under the 3-Year E74. Does anyone know how they fix these things? Do they upgrade the parts or anything to make them more stable after they repair them? Anyone know how that works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotenks98 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Dont they already have this? Its called the Elite. I had mine since this time last year and not a single problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHumanly Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Dont they already have this? Its called the Elite. I had mine since this time last year and not a single problem with it. No, the elite is the same exact hardware as the Pro, and almost the same as the Arcade[minus 256 or 512MB internal memory]. Only difference is the color of it lol. And the fact that it took a little bit longer for them to roll out the updated hardware changes, because the Elite was the least purchased console out of the 3 configurations they offer [now 2]. It's true that the overheating RROD doesn't happen very much any more, due to hardware changes -- but the newer 360s do suffer from various E## errors, such as E74, etc. Also, the PS3 has failures as well, such as the Orange/Yellow Light of Death -- it's just about as common as the failures of the new 360s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikh Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 ^ That it is. Suprisgnly a lot of 60/80gigers with BC are coming in and upgrading. Last week of December / First week of january we sold 23 ps3s. Its amazing how many people are giving up there consoles. I now have 5 broken ps3's. all yellow light, 1 is blu ray, rest are just overheating and etc. 4 60gigs and 1 80gig. Hoping to fix the 60gig because emotion chip. IF not im gonna burn them or throw them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHumanly Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 ^ Do a full format/restore on them, that is usually what fixes the error, if it's not overheating. Can't remember how many I fixed with a simple full format and OS restore :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryonhowley Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Still running the same Elite with zero issues, I guess I'm one of the exceptions. Mine is running fine also. Although I do not play mine a lot because I prefer playing on the PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHumanly Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Those are consoles that have the newer Jasper motherboard, they will be more reliable because it's the newer 65nm GPUs. I used to have my arcade 360 stuffed between a TV stand and a dresser, and it was on almost all the time for about a year straight and it never failed on me, not even a single red light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g~man Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Fortunately, SquareTrade found that Xbox 360 quality has improved dramatically since the third quarter of 2008, shortly before the 65nm CPU/GPU "Jasper" model was introduced. Since then, first-year failure rates have plummeted to below the 4 percent the company projected. Looking at 500 units purchased in 2009, SquareTrade found that less than 1 percent had suffered the Red Ring of Death. http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6216691.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted January 12, 2010 Global Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2010 Fortunately, SquareTrade found that Xbox 360 quality has improved dramatically since the third quarter of 2008, shortly before the 65nm CPU/GPU "Jasper" model was introduced. Since then, first-year failure rates have plummeted to below the 4 percent the company projected. Looking at 500 units purchased in 2009, SquareTrade found that less than 1 percent had suffered the Red Ring of Death.http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6216691.html And we're still talking 65nm parts here. Just think what MS can do with the move to 45nm? Maybe the system will draw under 100w? Have an even smaller power brick, or maybe move it inside finally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAZMINATOR Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Newest/lastest xbox 360 are good. I have 2 new xbox 360s and no problems so far since I got them. Looks like you have one of the oldest xbox 360 before the new xbox 360s are updated with new Jasper motherboards. If your xbox 360 has Jasper motherboard and is still having problems, then someone probably dropped the package at the store or warehouse... or your shipping provider. The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHumanly Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 And we're still talking 65nm parts here. Just think what MS can do with the move to 45nm? Maybe the system will draw under 100w? Have an even smaller power brick, or maybe move it inside finally? Newer consoles [seems to be around April-May 2009 and newer] have a slightly smaller power brick, but I doubt it will ever be inside the console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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