Sethos Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Good to see a reviewer that actually dares to score low in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 23, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 23, 2010 Good to see a reviewer that actually dares to score low in this day and age. All of a sudden teletext.co.uk is a reviewer to trust? :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 All of a sudden teletext.co.uk is a reviewer to trust? :rofl: Did I say that? I just commend him for actually speaking his mind because every other reviewer out there are so bound by advertising money and the fanbase. Even your reply is a perfect example - Oh noes, low score, then he must be a 12 year old sugar kiddy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 23, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 23, 2010 Did I say that? I just commend him for actually speaking his mind because every other reviewer out there are so bound by advertising money and the fanbase. Even your reply is a perfect example - Oh noes, low score, then he must be a 12 year old sugar kiddy!! Every other reviewer? So people who score the game well can not ever be just speaking their mind as well, only if you slate something you're speaking your mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Every other reviewer? So people who score the game well can not ever be just speaking their mind as well, only if you slate something you're speaking your mind? No but the trend has become so common I tend not to trust anyone and give a huge round of applauds to people who dare give a score lower than 8 - Not saying they are more trustworthy, I just commend them. And honestly, I'd much rather trust a guy on some website I never heard of than any of the ad-run commercial websites but that's another discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 23, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 23, 2010 No but the trend has become so common I tend not to trust anyone and give a huge round of applauds to people who dare give a score lower than 8 - Not saying they are more trustworthy, I just commend them. And honestly, I'd much rather trust a guy on some website I never heard of than any of the ad-run commercial websites but that's another discussion. Fair enough, but without sending in a bias reviewer, it sounds like this guy has no interest in this style of game at all and that's not the best way to review a game either. And HR has plenty of 7's and 8's - http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/heavyrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I want to see people who has different interests in gameplay review these sort of games, then you can get a varied opinion across the board - Don't like it? Go to the next review source. Hate to read generic reviews across the board, it's such a relief to see varied reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I really cannot wait to play this game tonight merely because I really AM skeptical, and even after all of the positive reviews, I just CANNOT shake what Jim Sterling from Destructoid said about the game. I was listening to the Destructoid podcast and they said it seems like every reviewer is giving this game high scores for "Effort" but to them, the effort isn't enough to make it a good game. And even if it's not looked at as a game, but looked at as "interactive cinema" the story and plot holes and acting and deus ex machina would be laughed out of any film festival.And that other games like Silent Hill and Mass Effect blow away the story telling of this game. I mean, I really want to pop it in and have the game completely blow me away and prove me wrong about every misconception I have about this game. I really want to be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 23, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 23, 2010 I really cannot wait to play this game tonight merely because I really AM skeptical, and even after all of the positive reviews, I just CANNOT shake what Jim Sterling from Destructoid said about the game. I was listening to the Destructoid podcast and they said it seems like every reviewer is giving this game high scores for "Effort" but to them, the effort isn't enough to make it a good game. And even if it's not looked at as a game, but looked at as "interactive cinema" the story and plot holes and acting and deus ex machina would be laughed out of any film festival.And that other games like Silent Hill and Mass Effect blow away the story telling of this game. I mean, I really want to pop it in and have the game completely blow me away and prove me wrong about every misconception I have about this game. I really want to be pleasantly surprised. I wouldn't expect it to blow you away if you already have a ton of worries, just play it without any pre-judgement baggage and see what you get from it. Mass Effect and Silent Hill tell stories on a different level of this, this game tries to conquer love, neither of those do, or at least not to the extent of this. An emotion many gamers will probably fear/not understand/not believe in/not care about/laugh at/mock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorwing Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Official material > Your Paper :p Yours is still paper no matter how you put it :p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I wouldn't expect it to blow you away if you already have a ton of worries, just play it without any pre-judgement baggage and see what you get from it. Mass Effect and Silent Hill tell stories on a different level of this, this game tries to conquer love, neither of those do, or at least not to the extent of this. An emotion many gamers will probably fear/not understand/not believe in/not care about/laugh at/mock. okay AB. I will keep this quote close to me as I play the game and will let you know if I think the game successfully accomplishes that. But, should it be judged too easily because it's a video game? Because if the main point of it is the story then I'll be looking very very very heavily in that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 23, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 23, 2010 okay AB. I will keep this quote close to me as I play the game and will let you know if I think the game successfully accomplishes that. But, should it be judged too easily because it's a video game? Because if the main point of it is the story then I'll be looking very very very heavily in that Yeah it's suppose to be about a fathers love for his son, watch the video in my signature, it's about how far would you go to save someone you love. I don't think the problem is judging the game easily or not, it's just judging it full stop as it's going for a mature audience and is definitely a niche game no matter how many copies it sells. You ask 50/60 people to review that and not everyone of those people are going to care so much about love/this type of story. Others however overlook flaws in light of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Love is not something a game can ever do, because it's such a special, such a unique kind of emotion. Fear, joy, sadness, anxiety, sympathy, empathy and those sort of feelings and emotions are easy to convey as they come very easy to us - Love on the other hand ... no. So just attempting to do it and you already failed, that is something no game will ever be accomplish. And in case we're talking between game characters ... meh? Then you don't need to do jack sh.. considering two random people could be kissing and then it's love, no further explanation needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 And in case we're talking between game characters ... meh? Then you don't need to do jack sh.. considering two random people could be kissing and then it's love, no further explanation needed. That's one huge criticism I read about the game...let me spoiler tag this in case anyone has a hissy fit One of the several flaws the game presents is the "love" aspect. For example, the guy and girl meets, they kiss and have sex and fall in love in a matter of a small moment. I don't buy this, especially when a game's major selling point is its story telling. I also read that the game does a terrible job as far as character development because although reviews call it "character development" no character really gets developed at all. And I know I shouldn't compare it to Mass Effect 2 but at least the "love" aspect is generated through a series of conversations over an elongated amount of time. Imagine if that were part of a movie? People would leave the theater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Exactly, I mean - Two people in love will not make me care more or less about the story, there's a bigger chance that I'd care less because when games try to convey the emotion "love" it tends to get cheesy, fast. I know it's an attempt to engross the player in the story and make us care about the characters but love will certainly not do it for me, you do it by creating a character you can perhaps relate to, look up to or in long games, a character you've had a lot of experiences 'with' - Those are the only ways I could ever grow fond of [a] character(s). Story wise, they want us to care when something happens to characters but again, that only happens when the above criteria are met, so we'll see how well they pulled that off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 23, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 23, 2010 Love is not something a game can ever do, because it's such a special, such a unique kind of emotion. Fear, joy, sadness, anxiety, sympathy, empathy and those sort of feelings and emotions are easy to convey as they come very easy to us - Love on the other hand ... no. So just attempting to do it and you already failed, that is something no game will ever be accomplish. And in case we're talking between game characters ... meh? Then you don't need to do jack sh.. considering two random people could be kissing and then it's love, no further explanation needed. I guess this is where Cage says it's more emotional for someone who has a child, you're in your 20's, probably as inexperienced with love as me, and neither of us own children. How can we relate our lives to a fathers love for his son all that well? Also those emotions you list off, they are all connected to love, if you don't have kids there is still a good chance you're going to feel some of them for the father losing his son. That's one huge criticism I read about the game...let me spoiler tag this in case anyone has a hissy fit One of the several flaws the game presents is the "love" aspect. For example, the guy and girl meets, they kiss and have sex and fall in love in a matter of a small moment. I don't buy this, especially when a game's major selling point is its story telling. I also read that the game does a terrible job as far as character development because although reviews call it "character development" no character really gets developed at all. And I know I shouldn't compare it to Mass Effect 2 but at least the "love" aspect is generated through a series of conversations over an elongated amount of time. Imagine if that were part of a movie? People would leave the theater. The game is about a fathers love for his son, I'd really not base a rant off a 4 min youtube video leak. I don't understand the no character development part either, it's quite clear the development of Ethan Mars from the downloadable demo, and footage we've seen from after a certain event in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 ... I'm off to have a few kids, so I can enjoy the game a lot more :happy: brb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 23, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 23, 2010 ... I'm off to have a few kids, so I can enjoy the game a lot more :happy: brb! Good joke, but I was just trying to convey it from Cage's point of view, regardless all this speculation is rather pointless till everyone get's a chance to play from start to finish and not compare this to ME2 before even playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 23, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 23, 2010 Heavy Rain has four protagonists due to Cage?s ?interest in schizophrenia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Mines is watching me play it on Friday night (no jokes :p) Mine's buying it for me for V'day. I almost don't need to buy games anymore, she lost a bet, had to get me Fallout, ordered GoW3 for x-mas... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 24, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 24, 2010 Mine's buying it for me for V'day. I almost don't need to buy games anymore, she lost a bet, had to get me Fallout, ordered GoW3 for x-mas... lol What kind of bet? This really is impressing the hell out of me. Absolutely awesome thus far. Say what you want about the gameplay, but the experience is really cool.I know people want to paint this as an interactive movie, but really, it's much more than that. The type of connection you get to each scene is much greater than what a movie can convey due to the amount of time you spend in it. The atmosphere is incredibly thick and actually resonates with me in a way that is highly uncommon with any medium. If you extract the cutscenes and attempt to examine them as if they were a film, yeah, it would fall flat...but it's not a film and that's what makes it stand out. Having replayed Indigo Prophecy recently, I can definitely say that this is light years beyond that game. You can see the frame work and ideas brewing in IP, but the experience isn't anywhere NEAR this. It falls absolutely flat in comparison. I must say that the musical score is also quite memorable. It has definitely enhanced the experience greatly. Truly fantastic stuff. Only complaints really are technical in nature. The game looks extremely impressive, but the performance hitches in certain instances are annoying and do detract just a tad. Oh, and that missing TV thing from earlier was annoying as well. Other than that, this is a fantastic title that is definitely worthy of the praise it is getting. The first hour or so is the most depressing thing I've ever witnessed in a game. Argh time machine to friday! My GF can't wait to watch me play it either haha, don't think I've ever had anyone sit with me and seriously watch me play through a game, most things get boring as a spectator or you get fed up waiting for a turn. Giantbomb Review @ 4/5 as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 24, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 24, 2010 That rain effect is pretty damn cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 My friend received his copy yesterday, planning to send it to me so I have it Friday or Saturday ... Freakin' promotional copy with no manual or nothing :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex566 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 That rain effect is pretty damn cool That is a really nice box! Yes, I am saying that a box is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Is that your animated gif? It's fippin funny as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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