Plummeting PS2 and PSP sales shrunk Sony's market share in 2009


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Plummeting PS2 and PSP sales shrunk Sony's market share in 2009

by Andrew Yoon

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For many, 2009 was the year Sony started turning things around: the PS3 finally dropped to an affordable price with an ad campaign that didn't give children nightmares. However, Gamasutra's Matt Matthews points out that in terms of revenue, 2009 is one of the worst years for the company. Whereas Sony was able to generate $6.4 billion in revenue from its family of PlayStation products in 2008, the company was only able to rake in $5.1 billion in 2009 -- that's a drop of $1.3 billion, or 20 percent.

While Microsoft and Nintendo also shed some revenue in the difficult economic climate, their losses seem insignificant in comparison: about $200 million each. Matthews notes that a large portion of Sony's lost revenue in 2009 comes from sagging sales of its decade-old PS2 platform. The (understandable) lack of software sales on the PS2 resulted in the loss of approximately $700 million in revenue, while hardware sales have contracted another $150 million.

The PSP also had a difficult year, and it appears the PSP Go hasn't turned around Sony's fortunes. According to Gamasutra's analysis, hardware and software sales on Sony's handheld shrank by about $425 million in 2009. With the demise of the PS2, and the languishing state of the PSP, Sony's former dominance of the market seems but a memory.

Source: Joystiq

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PS3 starting to do what it should be going, PS2 on it's way out, PSP looking like the PSP2 is needing to be released soon.

Aside from Nintendo, still holding the highest market share.

Clutching at straws much? Aside from Nintendo they're No. 1? If it weren't for the Allies, the Axis won WW2! Another thing to take into account is that Sony counts on 3 strong products: PS2, PSP, and PS3, whereas Microsoft is strictly the 360, since Xbox 1 numbers are negligible and there's no mobile Xbox.

ONLY 5.1 BILLION, lol

yeah i guess thats pocket change these days!

It's not the number, it's the 20% drop in revenue. That 20% is definitely not pocket change anywhere.

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Clutching at straws much? Aside from Nintendo they're No. 1? If it weren't for the Allies, the Axis won WW2! Another thing to take into account is that Sony counts on 3 strong products: PS2, PSP, and PS3, whereas Microsoft is strictly the 360, since Xbox 1 numbers are negligible and there's no mobile Xbox.

Not my fault Sony manage to keep 3 products on the market all selling which still provides higher market share, figures are figures.

I'm assuming these are based off NPDs, America is the homeland of the 360/Microsoft, Sony is a Japanese Company, as is Nintendo.

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Not my fault Sony manage to keep 3 products on the market all selling which still provides higher market share, figures are figures.

I'm assuming these are based off NPDs, America is the homeland of the 360/Microsoft, Sony is a Japanese Company, as is Nintendo.

Look at it like this, if there was a moble version of the xbox 360 or the xbox equivalent of the psp things would totally be different now. The thing is most of those moble games cater to mostly kids not what I would call hardcore gamers in the first place. The xbox 360 caters mostly to hardcore gamers. Think about it like this look at all the total titles on the consoles and handheld and tell me what is the good game to ****ty kiddy garbage game ratio? On the Wii and DS its pretty bad, so few good games and a huge amount of ****ty titles. On the psp a few decent games but most of the stuff is just re-released ps1 stuff and many ****ty titles. Not saying the xbox 360 doesnt have bad games but they are fewer than the other consoles and handhelds. I am pretty sure of the xbox had never had all the RRoD problems the PS3 and the Wii would be a distant memory at this point.

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Look at it like this, if there was a moble version of the xbox 360 or the xbox equivalent of the psp things would totally be different now. The thing is most of those moble games cater to mostly kids not what I would call hardcore gamers in the first place. The xbox 360 caters mostly to hardcore gamers. Think about it like this look at all the total titles on the consoles and handheld and tell me what is the good game to ****ty kiddy garbage game ratio? On the Wii and DS its pretty bad, so few good games and a huge amount of ****ty titles. On the psp a few decent games but most of the stuff is just re-released ps1 stuff and many ****ty titles. Not saying the xbox 360 doesnt have bad games but they are fewer than the other consoles and handhelds. I am pretty sure of the xbox had never had all the RRoD problems the PS3 and the Wii would be a distant memory at this point.

There isn't so I'm not really for doing "if" scenarios.

And the rest of your rant reads like something off of N4G.

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Not my fault Sony manage to keep 3 products on the market all selling which still provides higher market share, figures are figures.

I'm assuming these are based off NPDs, America is the homeland of the 360/Microsoft, Sony is a Japanese Company, as is Nintendo.

There isn't so I'm not really for doing "if" scenarios.

And the rest of your rant reads like something off of N4G.

Audio, you keep contradicting yourself. No "if" scenarios but you state Sony is No. 1 "if" you don't count Nintendo. Then "if" Sony releases a PSP2 and "if" the PS3 keeps going at the same rate. You sound like you're just putting your fingers in your ears saying "LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"

My point (and I think Gotenks') is that you have to give Microsoft credit for gaining the market share they have with one console vs. competitors that have more. If a company has about the same market share with one product as another does with 3 I think it's worth mentioning, whether it's your fault or not.

You know, when the PS3 really sucked (which it did) as much as you defended them you still seemed grounded, logical, and even jovial. Now that the PS3 is finally in a favorable position you seem to have grown more bitter and mean. Your posts really seem more like attacks and your logic seems to have vanished. I reallt don't mean this as an attack on you, just an observation because I really used to enjoy going back and forth with someone that supported a position but could see reality. You've changed, man.

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Ps2 sales plummet! Oh No! Only took what..10 years? Was a hell of a run!

I still have an original with dms3 chip. :D I may buy a slim just to toss into the car. (Y)

I won't dare comment on current psp's status. This thing has been a sack of fail for me, for years now.

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Audio, you keep contradicting yourself. No "if" scenarios but you state Sony is No. 1 "if" you don't count Nintendo. Then "if" Sony releases a PSP2 and "if" the PS3 keeps going at the same rate. You sound like you're just putting your fingers in your ears saying "LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"

My point (and I think Gotenks') is that you have to give Microsoft credit for gaining the market share they have with one console vs. competitors that have more. If a company has about the same market share with one product as another does with 3 I think it's worth mentioning, whether it's your fault or not.

You know, when the PS3 really sucked (which it did) as much as you defended them you still seemed grounded, logical, and even jovial. Now that the PS3 is finally in a favorable position you seem to have grown more bitter and mean. Your posts really seem more like attacks and your logic seems to have vanished. I reallt don't mean this as an attack on you, just an observation because I really used to enjoy going back and forth with someone that supported a position but could see reality. You've changed, man.

Honestly, I give MS credit for nothing. The only 'possibly' smart thing they did was release the Xbox 360 early, gaining them ~7.5 million unit lead over Sony, but at the cost of the consumers. You can pretty much ask any Xbox 360 owner out there and AT LEAST half of them (if not more) will say they've had problems with their console. If releasing a ****ty product early in order to get a lead...

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Audio, you keep contradicting yourself. No "if" scenarios but you state Sony is No. 1 "if" you don't count Nintendo. Then "if" Sony releases a PSP2 and "if" the PS3 keeps going at the same rate. You sound like you're just putting your fingers in your ears saying "LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"

My point (and I think Gotenks') is that you have to give Microsoft credit for gaining the market share they have with one console vs. competitors that have more. If a company has about the same market share with one product as another does with 3 I think it's worth mentioning, whether it's your fault or not.

You know, when the PS3 really sucked (which it did) as much as you defended them you still seemed grounded, logical, and even jovial. Now that the PS3 is finally in a favorable position you seem to have grown more bitter and mean. Your posts really seem more like attacks and your logic seems to have vanished. I reallt don't mean this as an attack on you, just an observation because I really used to enjoy going back and forth with someone that supported a position but could see reality. You've changed, man.

I didn't say that if you don't count Nintendo Sony are #1, I said putting Nintendo aside as they're vastly in front, there's no competition right now between Sony/MS and Nintendo.

As far as I'm concerned on this board, Neowin, all that ever matters is Sony vs Microsoft for the most part, as it's mostly what this board game on.

For the rest of your post fair enough say whatever you want to say, as long as I'm not breaking rules I'm carrying on trying to help, spur on chat and post in this community, if you don't like that put me on ignore.

As I've said before if you want to talk irrationality, maybe read this topic, it's not an excuse but I do have a hell of a lot of drugs pumping around my body right now. As far as I think though I'm completely able to post here without causing offence, people are just disagreeing with things I say based upon their preferences, which is fine, but all the other hoolla about my posting history, etc etc, I don't care.

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Honestly, I give MS credit for nothing. The only 'possibly' smart thing they did was release the Xbox 360 early, gaining them ~7.5 million unit lead over Sony, but at the cost of the consumers. You can pretty much ask any Xbox 360 owner out there and AT LEAST half of them (if not more) will say they've had problems with their console. If releasing a ****ty product early in order to get a lead...

How was it any different with Sony and PS2? I will give MS credit for putting online connectivity at the center whereas Sony and Nintendo had it as an afterthought (Nintendo probably still does). Online play is the single most driving factor this generation.

They gave you free product replacement for faulty units - the cost to consumers was limited for first 18 or so months till the "recall" was declared and even then people were reimbursed.

I didn't say that if you don't count Nintendo Sony are #1, I said putting Nintendo aside as they're vastly in front, there's no competition right now between Sony/MS and Nintendo.

As far as I'm concerned on this board, Neowin, all that ever matters is Sony vs Microsoft for the most part, as it's mostly what this board game on.

For the rest of your post fair enough say whatever you want to say, as long as I'm not breaking rules I'm carrying on trying to help, spur on chat and post in this community, if you don't like that put me on ignore.

As I've said before if you want to talk irrationality, maybe read this topic, it's not an excuse but I do have a hell of a lot of drugs pumping around my body right now. As far as I think though I'm completely able to post here without causing offence, people are just disagreeing with things I say based upon their preferences, which is fine, but all the other hoolla about my posting history, etc etc, I don't care.

If we put Nintendo aside, not counting handheld and last generation console and including online community, PS3 is easily beaten by Xbox 360. Numbers - oh how fun are they!

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If we put Nintendo aside, not counting handheld and last generation console and including online community, PS3 is easily beaten by Xbox 360. Numbers - oh how fun are they!

And? I wouldn't argue against that, it's 30m vs 35m right now or there abouts. This topic is about NPDs and marketshare, and there's already another topic posted about current gen marketshare here.

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And? I wouldn't argue against that, it's 30m vs 35m right now or there abouts. This topic is about NPDs and marketshare, and there's already another topic posted about current gen marketshare here.

And nothing! Just my take on the same numbers.

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And nothing! Just my take on the same numbers.

The numbers in this topic have nothing to do with the numbers in the other topic. This topic is market share for each company, the other topic is marketshare based upon a single product.

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The numbers in this topic have nothing to do with the numbers in the other topic. This topic is market share for each company, the other topic is marketshare based upon a single product.

I was referring to numbers in this topic.

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PS3 is only 2% up from Microsoft. Now, that's worrying. Hopefully, Sony's and Microsoft's market-share will go up in the near future. Nintendo is the one who should be going down. :laugh: I like Nintendo, but I wish that they'd do something to appeal to real gamers. Honestly.

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I was referring to numbers in this topic.

Oh right I get you now, fair enough, that is the case, but again there's the benefit of being able to have 3 gaming products selling on the market, increases your overall marketshare.

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OK, this will be completely off topic, then. Like I said in my previous post, I didn't mean that post as an attack just an observation of a change I've noticed. I had no idea about the anxieties you've been having to deal with. I can understand it from a 3rd person perspective as my wife suffers from anxieties and she's been through different medications. For me this goes beyond the Xbox vs. PS thing. I used to be able to have a long drawn out argument with you that would usually end in a joke or two. The biggest change I've seen is that you seem to be taking this very serious and, frankly, I wish you didn't. You responses seem to be very final and you seem to want to avoid any back and forth.

I truly wish you all the best and if there's anything you feel I could help you with please don't hesitate to ask. Apart from that, I still have hope of converting you to an Xbot. ;)

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I think MS should be getting credit for playing this round smart and doing things right, even with the RRoD issue. The fact is that they have a large chunk of the game market off of one single unit, while sony has 3. You can't argue this. And while Sony does have it's 3, and more power to them, if MS did have a Xbox portable if you will, then we could be seeing things differently.

Well, actually, if things go the way I expect them to go, then most if not all future Windows Phones will be like an xbox portable, and in that case, MS has no hardware costs and so on to worry about since other people will be making them and selling them. MS can just do what they do best and work on the software+ services.

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I think MS should be getting credit for playing this round smart and doing things right, even with the RRoD issue. The fact is that they have a large chunk of the game market off of one single unit, while sony has 3. You can't argue this. And while Sony does have it's 3, and more power to them, if MS did have a Xbox portable if you will, then we could be seeing things differently.

Well, actually, if things go the way I expect them to go, then most if not all future Windows Phones will be like an xbox portable, and in that case, MS has no hardware costs and so on to worry about since other people will be making them and selling them. MS can just do what they do best and work on the software+ services.

Now that you point that out, I wonder how iPhone game sales would relate in the overall picture?

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Now that you point that out, I wonder how iPhone game sales would relate in the overall picture?

If its sales by numbers I don't think it would be a fair comparison, seeing the profit margins would be nice.

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Well, the price for iphone games is what? I don't have one so I don't know. The margins are probably low I think, they can't and probably don't charge anything like what PSP or DS games go for. That's my guess anyways. In the end though, you don't have to and if MS does a good deal and you get something going like with the upcoming arcade room were you can pay a little extra and play the same game on your 360 and your PC AND your Windows Phone, then that's even better imo.

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