torrentthief Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 the main reason he's trying to crack the ps3 isn't for piracy, its so that he can run linux on the PS3 Slim which Sony Disabled, you would be able to run XBMC on linux too if he manages to hack it, so you could play and video/audio file you wanted instead of the only the ones sony lets you. can't wait till geohotz fully cracks the ps3, i'd definately buy 1 if he did, bluray, games, play all my video files AND could use it as a fast linux-based pc :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 23, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) the main reason he's trying to crack the ps3 isn't for piracy, its so that he can run linux on the PS3 Slim which Sony Disabled, you would be able to run XBMC on linux too if he manages to hack it, so you could play and video/audio file you wanted instead of the only the ones sony lets you. can't wait till geohotz fully cracks the ps3, i'd definately buy 1 if he did, bluray, games, play all my video files AND could use it as a fast linux-based pc :) You'll never be able to run Linux on the Slim due to something Sony removed, it's not something that can be hacked in, it was something hardware related Sony removed allowing you to dual boot an OS. You can all ready play all your blu rays, games and play virtually every video file out there :whistle: So technically there's no reason for you to wait other than.... backups :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 you can only play video files if you re-mux or transcode them, it would be far better to play .mkv files natively and to allow hd audio codecs to be bitstreamed from within .mkv files. As for removing hardware for linux, that might just be a myth that sony spread, i'd want evidence to believe that, reading geohotz's posts it seems to think he thinks otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 23, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) you can only play video files if you re-mux or transcode them, it would be far better to play .mkv files natively and to allow hd audio codecs to be bitstreamed from within .mkv files. As for removing hardware for linux, that might just be a myth that sony spread, i'd want evidence to believe that, reading geohotz's posts it seems to think he thinks otherwise. Most people stream so it's hardly an issue remuxing seeing as it takes 0.5 seconds, and while you can't bitstream HD audio, it converts to PCM on the fly meaning you still get HD audio anyway. Unless you have a PS3 slim you can't even bitstream HD audio in the first place, only it can (from disc). Most of your online rips come with DTS at best anyway, so unless you're a legit Blu Ray buyer, chances are your files sitting on your hard drive don't even have HD audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackdoom Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) I remember when I used to download games and play them on my modded Xbox (Original). Now, I have got used to buying games for my 360 and PS3. I would rather not have a mainstream hack for the PS3, and also, I fully support Microsoft for banning modded consoles. As of today, I haven't bought any 360 or PS3 games that have disappointed me; since I carefully read reviews, and I definitely don't waste as much time as I used to, when I played almost every game that was being released on the original Xbox. :laugh: All being said, I do support the guy's work for informational and learning purposes. :) Edited January 23, 2010 by CrownedClown03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I'm wondering if it'll even be worth it to try and play backups for PS3 games. Assuming most developers don't compress the game(s) down to DVD size (perhaps an early anti-piracy method?), how will people burn the games? 2 DVDs likely won't work because it would require swapping. BR discs aren't all that affordable considering the cost of the BR burner and media...so that leaves HDDs and while those are cheap-er these days, you're only going to be able to fit so many games per HDD. I'm sure people will go through the trouble, but I really hope the PS3 stays unhacked mainstream-wise for a while longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 23, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted January 23, 2010 I'm wondering if it'll even be worth it to try and play backups for PS3 games. Assuming most developers don't compress the game(s) down to DVD size (perhaps an early anti-piracy method?), how will people burn the games? 2 DVDs likely won't work because it would require swapping. BR discs aren't all that affordable considering the cost of the BR burner and media...so that leaves HDDs and while those are cheap-er these days, you're only going to be able to fit so many games per HDD. I'm sure people will go through the trouble, but I really hope the PS3 stays unhacked mainstream-wise for a while longer. If you edited the disc in any way, even removed any sort of padding, instant ban. In theory you'd need an undetected firmware/exploit AND a way of ensuring a 1:1 copy of the BR disc. Forget hard drive loaders, wouldn't stand a chance on PSN. Remember people, as I've said before, up until very recently the 360 wasn't hacked at all either, just the DVD firmware. Not every exploit found can lead somewhere fruitful, it still needs the major construction done and that is disabling security and finding a way to play backups. Dumping what this guy has managed hasn't put us any closer to that really, just a step forward in getting into the PS3 a bit further. Elessar 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 bluray burners are ?120+ and 25GB BD25 discs are ?1.20+ (when you buy 10pcs) so not THAT expensive, you could always get your friend to backup your games for you and just buy him the blank discs, ?1.20 for a ~?30 game isn't too much. If with his hacking and the community developing code, it might be possible to play bluray backups from a hdd. Maybe a 1.5TB hdd in a usb caddy, this would allow you to backup LOADS of games. Its hard to say what will happen, i just hope geohot can make it run homebrew code so we can have a real media player, even better than the popcorn C200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPyro Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Ok, so he's passed the dumps off to another dev and they are currently looking for the syscall vector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneNutter MVC Posted January 23, 2010 MVC Share Posted January 23, 2010 You'll never be able to run Linux on the Slim due to something Sony removed, it's not something that can be hacked in, it was something hardware related Sony removed allowing you to dual boot an OS. The Xbox 360 wasn't designed to run Linux and that can boot Ubuntu / Debian now its hacked, never say never! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoredBozirini Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 The Xbox 360 wasn't designed to run Linux and that can boot Ubuntu / Debian now its hacked, never say never! ;) We only need a processor and a memory. All thanks to Alan Turing and John von Neumann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 23, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted January 23, 2010 The Xbox 360 wasn't designed to run Linux and that can boot Ubuntu / Debian now its hacked, never say never! ;) Not as a full operating system I don't think, at least not like the PS3 where the whole thing was 1:1 with what it would look like on your PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneNutter MVC Posted January 23, 2010 MVC Share Posted January 23, 2010 Not as a full operating system I don't think, at least not like the PS3 where the whole thing was 1:1 with what it would look like on your PC. A hacked 360 can boot an Ubuntu install just like a PC or PS3, Video: All thats been done with no support from Microsoft so I still believe Linux could be easily adapted to run on the PS3 Slim given enough time. Doesn't Linux on the PS3 basically runs in a virtual machine with restricted access to the cpu / gpu anyway? Im sure i remember reading somewhere that was the reason why its not possible to play 720p / 1080p video on a PS3 Linux install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 A hacked 360 can boot an Ubuntu install just like a PC or PS3, Video: All thats been done with no support from Microsoft so I still believe Linux could be easily adapted to run on the PS3 Slim given enough time. Doesn't Linux on the PS3 basically runs in a virtual machine with restricted access to the cpu / gpu anyway? Im sure i remember reading somewhere that was the reason why its not possible to play 720p / 1080p video on a PS3 Linux install. I have heard that Linux installed on the PS3 does run rather slow, including internet access. I supposed that could be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 If Sony were smart they would send a deathsquad to his location immediately to contain his knowledge, then blow up his house/apartment and blame it on a gas leak :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) If this takes off like the psp dark alex era then I'm picking me up a PS3. It's my right as an American citizen. *sarcasm tags not included* -KJ 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted January 23, 2010 Veteran Share Posted January 23, 2010 GeoHot :heart: The PS3 was always gonna be hacked, never expected him to be the man, but if anyone can do it, it's him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted January 23, 2010 Global Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2010 haha.. of course.. "Geohot". I've been following his Twitter for awhile, he's really into modding his PS3.. I guess he was successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralDogma Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Doesn't Linux on the PS3 basically runs in a virtual machine with restricted access to the cpu / gpu anyway? Im sure i remember reading somewhere that was the reason why its not possible to play 720p / 1080p video on a PS3 Linux install. The GPU is running in a hypervisor, so it's heavily restricted. The CPU is pretty open though (minus one core for security). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDX Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Ahh Custom Firmfare and all kinds of visual mods...... I can dream.... screw Online Play :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I also have a feeling Sony would ban PSN accounts, not just consoles, what do they have to lose you aren't paying them a subscription.... I doubt they would for the same reason MS doesn't. If people have a lot of trophies or have previously purchased anything legitimatly via the store then they are quite likely to want to gain access to them again. If you delete their account and everything they had worked for they have no real reason to remain a customer and can more easily justify getting an XBox instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted January 24, 2010 Veteran Share Posted January 24, 2010 I doubt they would for the same reason MS doesn't. If people have a lot of trophies or have previously purchased anything legitimatly via the store then they are quite likely to want to gain access to them again. If you delete their account and everything they had worked for they have no real reason to remain a customer and can more easily justify getting an XBox instead. Yup. A man who loses everything doesn't care any more :p Well that's usually how it works in the real world anyway lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 24, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) I doubt they would for the same reason MS doesn't. If people have a lot of trophies or have previously purchased anything legitimatly via the store then they are quite likely to want to gain access to them again. If you delete their account and everything they had worked for they have no real reason to remain a customer and can more easily justify getting an XBox instead. Not really, did you see all the threats on teh webz of people who's 360s got banned all going to now "get PS3s". Sony have banned PSN accounts for abusive people in Home, see I'm not actually sure what the bannings entail, it could just be complete online blockage to your PSN account, apart from being to access the store and your downloaded content. That would cripple your PS3 and your PSN account. Yeah you can go make another account on a new PS3, but you lose your tag. But still, I think they'd have no qualms pulling the trigger on the whole account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokiaxion Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 The exploit was just released. Odd, as he said he didnt want to release it in fear of Sony patching it. Either Sony paided him a huge sum of money or he just ruined it for the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Not really, did you see all the threats on teh webz of people who's 360s got banned all going to now "get PS3s". Sony have banned PSN accounts for abusive people in Home, see I'm not actually sure what the bannings entail, it could just be complete online blockage to your PSN account, apart from being to access the store and your downloaded content. Yeah well not everyone will jump back, but I think posts here and on other forums show they do have a pretty decent return rate customer wise. As for banning accounts in that scenario...I'm sure MS would too if personal abuse was involved as legally that could get a bit sticky if the company is shown to know and be able to monitor it but turns a blind eye. That being said but, I think I've heard of people having their live gamer score reset in some rare circumstances or am I imagining that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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