carmatic Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 so i dont understand, what will happen to the 'crypto engine' spu during the hack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Sony anwers to Geohot?s PS3 hack with a patent Recently a new patent by a SONY employee was published on the patent site at faqs.org. It seems it is SONY's answer for Geohot's progress. Take a look here: "A method, system, and computer-usable medium are disclosed for controlling unauthorized access to encrypted application program code. Predetermined program code is encrypted with a first key. The hash value of an application verification certificate associated with a second key is calculated by performing a one-way hash function. Binding operations are then performed with the first key and the calculated hash value to generate a third key, which is a binding key. The binding key is encrypted with a fourth key to generate an encrypted binding key, which is then embedded in the application. The application is digitally signed with a fifth key to generate an encrypted and signed program code image. To decrypt the encrypted program code, the application verification key certificate is verified and in turn is used to verify the authenticity of the encrypted and signed program code image. The encrypted binding key is then decrypted with a sixth key to extract the binding key. The hash value of the application verification certificate associated with the second key is then calculated and used with the extracted binding key to extract the first key. The extracted first key is then used to decrypt the encrypted application code." View: Patent News Source: SSFU via n4g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Sony anwers to Geohot's PS3 hack with a patent View: Patent News Source: SSFU via n4g why would a patent stop somebody from hacking PS3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplySchizo Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Sure would put a dent in Geo's ego for starters. He enjoys the recognition. Not being able to stamp his name on future accomplishments at the risk of getting his attorneys pwnd is rather drastic in his case. It's his weakness you see. Future work would have to be a bit more anonymous/discreet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 17, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted February 17, 2010 why would a patent stop somebody from hacking PS3? Wouldn't stop them but if your name was tied to it in anyway you'll find yourself in legal issues (if the patent is passed which it is right?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPyro Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Did anyone actually read the patent? Did anyone actually read my code? They have nothing to do with each other at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 17, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted February 17, 2010 Yeah maybe not "his code" whatever that is and whatever stage it's at but possibly the implementation of it in any exploit/other coding used/released to public to circumvent the security. Whatever is going on as Geohot I'd be careful, but his ego is the size of the earth. Nintendo just a week or two ago sued the hell out of someone who got Mario early and then publicly claimed he was uploading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 that sounds like the most complicated encryption process i have heard about, let alone for a console. If anything with what sony released this is just going to motivate geohot and any would be hackers some more so they can get the claim to fame for bringing that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex566 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Yeah maybe not "his code" whatever that is and whatever stage it's at but possibly the implementation of it in any exploit/other coding used/released to public to circumvent the security. Whatever is going on as Geohot I'd be careful, but his ego is the size of the earth. Nintendo just a week or two ago sued the hell out of someone who got Mario early and then publicly claimed he was uploading it. In this day and age it is rather foolish to brag about how you hack a system. People claim they do such things to enable more platforms to be "open". This might be the initial intention but soon other people will use the exploit for illegal activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 17, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted February 17, 2010 In this day and age it is rather foolish to brag about how you hack a system. People claim they do such things to enable more platforms to be "open". This might be the initial intention but soon other people will use the exploit for illegal activities. It's stupid to brag just for your own safety, I mean does anyone even know what the guy looks like who done the 360 firmware? Geohot has pictures of himself online and everything, such an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Wouldn't stop them but if your name was tied to it in anyway you'll find yourself in legal issues (if the patent is passed which it is right?). They don't really need patents for it. There is DMCA for it, at least in the US. :p I am not sure where this guy is located but somebody breaking copy protection/DRM gives sufficient reason to Sony if they really wanted to sue him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPyro Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 It's stupid to brag just for your own safety, I mean does anyone even know what the guy looks like who done the 360 firmware? Geohot has pictures of himself online and everything, such an idiot. And you don't think there's info out there on other hackers? What about Dark Alex or Mathieulh from the PSP scene. It wouldn't be hard for Sony or some other company to find some one if they really wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 17, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted February 17, 2010 And you don't think there's info out there on other hackers? What about Dark Alex or Mathieulh from the PSP scene. It wouldn't be hard for Sony or some other company to find some one if they really wanted to. Yes but the issue here is what this patent really affects. Of course Sony can find these other people, but Geohot is doing himself no favour bragging, posting pictures of himself and being an ass - Especially at such a young age. Cases have to be built in situations like this, look what happened to OiNK, yeah eventually the guy went free, but it took a long time for a case to build up. Patents are slightly different than a company just selling a modchip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPyro Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Yes but the issue here is what this patent really affects. Of course Sony can find these other people, but Geohot is doing himself no favour bragging, posting pictures of himself and being an ass - Especially at such a young age. Cases have to be built in situations like this, look what happened to OiNK, yeah eventually the guy went free, but it took a long time for a case to build up. Patents are slightly different than a company just selling a modchip. There is nothing Sony can do to George Hotz. He is not breaking any law so it's not really an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 17, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted February 17, 2010 There is nothing Sony can do to George Hotz. He is not breaking any law so it's not really an issue. All I'm saying is he has to be careful how revealing he is online, and the way he acts won't have many fans funding his court case paypal button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralDogma Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 that sounds like the most complicated encryption process i have heard about, let alone for a console. That's an antiquated algorithm BTW. It's considered quite easy to break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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