Sethos Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Hey, I'm looking for an upgrade to my Logitech Extreme 3D, a cheap flight stick that has served me well for the past few years now. However, it's starting to show its weaknesses in hectic situations. The throttle control is a bit too flimsy and a tad inaccurate at times. Also, the rudder function ( Twist handle ) is also a bit flimsy and over-zealous, as the tiniest movement will start throwing the plane around despite calibration - I'd love some gradual movement. As I stated in the title, I'd like it to be single-piece and by that I mean no massive throttle-control unit on the side, I just don't have room for that. So a stick with all the required buttons, throttle control and preferably some gradual rudder control. And above all; quality! Any suggestions? Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Candyman Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=149&PlatformID=5 That's the single unit I'd go for (though the throttle is detacheable). I have an old thrustmaster of some kind that I still use after about 7 years. It's been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Thank you for the suggestion! I'm not too sure about detachable thrust control, as I wanted to avoid too big of a set up and if we're already in that size range, I might as well order the X52 Pro and get it over with - I was just hoping for a unit with the same size as the 3D Pro, so much easier to whip out and play with :shiftyninja: So I'm currently looking at the X52 Pro, so I'm looking for suggestions in the same 'quality' range, just smaller. And to be honest, the Thrustmaster Hotas looks a bit 1998 to be honest, just flimsy ugly plastic :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted February 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 17, 2010 Check out the Saitek Cyborg X. It's like a kick-ass nanite-infected version of the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Check out the Saitek Cyborg X. It's like a kick-ass nanite-infected version of the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. That certainly looks badass - Although, I can't find anything regarding twist handle control for the rudder, which is a requirement for me, perhaps I'm just blind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted February 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 17, 2010 That certainly looks badass - Although, I can't find anything regarding twist handle control for the rudder, which is a requirement for me, perhaps I'm just blind? I don't think it does, which kinda sucks. :/ It looks like a really good joystick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Aye, it really does - Especially with all the adjustments and double-throttle control. Really is a shame, because it would have gone to the top of my list otherwise. Looks like the X52 Pro is still up there :p EDIT: http://www.bestbuy.c...&id=12180969577 "Rudder with twist axis For easy maneuverability." So it HAS rudder control? Now I'm not sure :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted February 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 17, 2010 Actually, I think it does twist for rudder control. http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-PS38-Cyborg-X-Stick/dp/B001EYU1VO (search "rudder" on the page) http://www.techbuy.com.au/products/99830/JOYSTICKS_JOYSTICK/Saitek/131-01-08295.asp (lists "twist axis for rudder") http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=269001 (see 3rd last sentence in main paragraph) EDIT: It seems so. And from the reviews I've seen, the joystick is pretty decent. (Y) Sethos 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'll see what the bank account says, I stumbled on the X52 Pro today while I was searching and that certainly caught my eye with brilliant quality and features but it also costs a pretty penny. So if that isn't within budget, I will go for the Cyborg X - I do hope it feels like a quality stick, because the price doesn't really shout quality to me. Thanks An (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Microsoft Sidewinder Joystick Force Feedback 2 I don't care if it's 10 years old. Find a used one on ebay because they're awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 That's gonna be a big no, thanks though :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 That's gonna be a big no, thanks though :p You'll be sorry :p Seriously though I can't believe I'm still using a 10 year old peripheral - best £80 I ever spent! I hope Microsoft delve back into their range of sidewinder products as they were truly awesome :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 I doubt I'll be missing out ;) I have however just ordered the Cyborg X, which is being shipped from Norway, so should have it Friday. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted February 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 17, 2010 Nice! You're welcome, Sethos. I'm thinking of buying one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 You should, then we can have a homo-erotic relationship going when playing BC2, "Oh I have the Cyborg X, Ohhhh me tooo!! OMG Niiice, BFF!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Actually yeah, the old MS sidewinder sticks where pretty much THE best single unit sticks you could get. no modern stick comes close, with flimsy flacid force feedback and poor centering and even when they do center their zero position is usually horribly off so you need to have a huge center dead zone anyway. except for those the only sticks I'd recommend is Thrustmaster, even after the buyout. Saitek's look cool, but build quality isn't up there. even if I do want a X52, it's just not even close to the thrustmaster in quality. and they do make some fairly decent single unit stuff too. Logitech though... yeah they need to stick to mice and pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 it would seem strange for the saitek cyborg v1 has twist rudder and for the cyborg x to not ... it seems that it has abit of a centering issue (the video called it 'wobble') http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXCB9FsxPck&feature=related gaah neowin doesnt support the youtube time command... skip to 3 minutes 27 seconds to see him twist the grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 My Logitech stick had tons of centering issues and leaving it centered, planes would fly all over the place but I learned how to adapt and I'm fairly sure the problem is less noticeable with this stick, so it's not a big deal for me. Plus, with that design I can forgive anything :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmiss Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Thrustmaster also do a single grip version of the one mentioned in the first reply, that does have the twist grip you are after and they are very reasonably priced too http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=94&PlatformID=12 Play.com http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/5889705/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Stick-X-PC-Joystick/Product.html Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/PS3-PC-T-Flight-Stick-X/dp/B000WHFQ0K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Thrustmaster also do a single grip version of the one mentioned in the first reply, that does have the twist grip you are after and they are very reasonably priced too http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=94&PlatformID=12 Play.com http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/5889705/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Stick-X-PC-Joystick/Product.html Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/PS3-PC-T-Flight-Stick-X/dp/B000WHFQ0K what's with these twist rudder joysticks calling themselves 'X' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Microsoft Sidewinder Joystick Force Feedback 2 I don't care if it's 10 years old. Find a used one on ebay because they're awesome! Still rocking mine like its 1999 :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Candyman Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I preferred the Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted February 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 17, 2010 You should, then we can have a homo-erotic relationship going when playing BC2, "Oh I have the Cyborg X, Ohhhh me tooo!! OMG Niiice, BFF!!!" Pffffffffft! In your dreams. I want that Cyborg X though. Like, I want it... now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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