Infinity Ward Fails Again


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welcome to neowin and that's the exact reason i love MW2 on my ps3. never seen a cheater yet on there

just because you suck at FPS on consoles doens't mean its the controllers fault. and the graphics are good on console... calm down big guy. i bet you couldn't tell a difference if you saw all three games running on the same HDTV.

Yawn, console children and their strawmen... so cute.

There will always be the haves and the have nots I suppose.

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i bet you couldn't tell a difference if you saw all three games running on the same HDTV.

The difference is huge. The PC version has higher resolution textures and the game looks less muddy. I'd get screenshots if I could be arsed. :P

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Yawn, console children and their strawmen... so cute.

There will always be the haves and the have nots I suppose.

Exactly. They will stick to there defense and come at us(PC Gamers) that we "suck" with a controller and thats why we are "bitching". Actually no. I can do MUCH MORE with a Mouse/Keyboard then I can with a controller. Mouse/Keyboard offer flexibility. Controller does not.

The difference is huge. The PC version has higher resolution textures and the game looks less muddy. I'd get screenshots if I could be arsed. :P

Exactly again.

@Raj: You havent seen a cheater on the ps3.. What about the 10th prestige hack early on in the games life? Or care package glitch? This game is a FAIL on all 3 platforms. PC being the biggest. Lack of features/support.

Also, graphics are NO WHERE to what PC graphics can be. Play AC2 on your PS3 and then play it on PC. Yeah exactly. Play any other PS3 game that has a PC version thats NOT a crappy port(MW2, etc) and play it on PC. Our point exactly.

PC Graphics will be > Consoles for a long time to come. I want to say forever but I cant predict the future / someone will be a troll and make this comment into a big deal. So ill stick to PC Graphics > Consoles for a long time.

Play BC2 Demo on your PS3 and spookie/sethos/anaron or someone can post pictures of BC2 on there computer. You will loose. Believe me oh will you loose.

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Play BC2 Demo on your PS3 and spookie/sethos/anaron or someone can post pictures of BC2 on there computer. You will loose. Believe me oh will you loose.

There is another set of textures due to be put on the disc according to Repi, essentially a very-high setting which isn't in the beta. He's also been looking for ideas on how to distribute these in the future. For the PS3 it's not a problem since it's blueray and they can put (his words) 30GBs of textures on to a disc. The PC looks like it would have to be distributed via DLC (ala steam). The 360? Will have to make do with medium apparently! :|

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Now, I don't know much about it but for the Playstation 3's textures and the whole Blu-ray thing, don't you also need the GPU Ram to back it up, to have the textures loaded on screen etc. ? The PS3's physical available GPU RAM isn't that high.

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Now, I don't know much about it but for the Playstation 3's textures and the whole Blu-ray thing, don't you also need the GPU Ram to back it up, to have the textures loaded on screen etc. ? The PS3's physical available GPU RAM isn't that high.

I have absolutely no idea. :D

He was only looking for ideas on how to distribute the textures on systems. You're only allowed to use 3 discs according to EA. :|

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Ok, since my Xbox broke I have been playing the PC version of this game (Traded in the 360 version and picked up the PC version for a ?10 difference) and I must say I think I've encountered hackers only twice in 51 hours + of playtime total. This is over a month or so and I must say that these hackers weren't actually that great and could be taken down very easily. I've not encountered anybody using the glitches shown and will probably continue to play the game because I enjoy it.

Only once these become so prominent that the game is unplayable I will consider stopping playing it, but for now I'm still enjoying the game a lot. I mostly play Hardcore Team Deathmatch now but used to play a lot of TDM Express.

It's a shame that so many people see fit to rip a game apart like this, it ruins the experience for others, even if the online system was slightly gimped from the start (Even though I don't find it laggy most of the time, sometimes I'll get lag or host migration but generally it's lag free and smooth).

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There is another set of textures due to be put on the disc according to Repi, essentially a very-high setting which isn't in the beta. He's also been looking for ideas on how to distribute these in the future. For the PS3 it's not a problem since it's blueray and they can put (his words) 30GBs of textures on to a disc. The PC looks like it would have to be distributed via DLC (ala steam). The 360? Will have to make do with medium apparently! :|

30GB of textures?! That is an insane amount... That probably wouldn't even fit on a blu-ray unless everything else was small and/or really compressed??

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I guess some of us got a bad retail box then sad.gif

Confirmed by the devs. You know since they keep in contact with the community, you may not know devs do that if you've only been playing IW's games. ;)

30GB of textures?! That is an insane amount... That probably wouldn't even fit on a blu-ray unless everything else was small and/or really compressed??

*Shrug* Maybe a hint of what to expect for BF3 next year :E

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Confirmed by the devs. You know since they keep in contact with the community, you may not know devs do that if you've only been playing IW's games. ;)

I participate in their forums, and have always been a big fan of Battlefield games yes.gif

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Exactly. They will stick to there defense and come at us(PC Gamers) that we "suck" with a controller and thats why we are "bitching". Actually no. I can do MUCH MORE with a Mouse/Keyboard then I can with a controller. Mouse/Keyboard offer flexibility. Controller does not.

Exactly again.

@Raj: You havent seen a cheater on the ps3.. What about the 10th prestige hack early on in the games life? Or care package glitch? This game is a FAIL on all 3 platforms. PC being the biggest. Lack of features/support.

Also, graphics are NO WHERE to what PC graphics can be. Play AC2 on your PS3 and then play it on PC. Yeah exactly. Play any other PS3 game that has a PC version thats NOT a crappy port(MW2, etc) and play it on PC. Our point exactly.

PC Graphics will be > Consoles for a long time to come. I want to say forever but I cant predict the future / someone will be a troll and make this comment into a big deal. So ill stick to PC Graphics > Consoles for a long time.

Play BC2 Demo on your PS3 and spookie/sethos/anaron or someone can post pictures of BC2 on there computer. You will loose. Believe me oh will you loose.

i never saw the care package glitch on the ps3. just saw videos of it on youtube. I guess i got lucky. Obviously the graphics are better on PC when you jack up the resolution, i never said it wouldn't be. Im saying if you had all three games running at 720p on the same TV you could barely tell a difference. I've seen the BC2 demo on PC and i played it on my ps3, it looks better then the ps3 but it's also a newer build of the game so that was kinda expected. the graphics on PS3 were good, but the newer screenshots the graphics are even better.

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There is another set of textures due to be put on the disc according to Repi, essentially a very-high setting which isn't in the beta. He's also been looking for ideas on how to distribute these in the future. For the PS3 it's not a problem since it's blueray and they can put (his words) 30GBs of textures on to a disc. The PC looks like it would have to be distributed via DLC (ala steam). The 360? Will have to make do with medium apparently! :|

They probably wont push that out on PS3 has they need more GPU RAM to process everything thats going on. But I do know they plan on making a Very High or "Enthusiast"(term crysis uses haha) for DX10/11. I am very glad they are because I would like to bench this game on Very High when I get my Fermi. Other then that I will never play at Very High because I dont need to. At high this game looks beautiful and the detail is amazing. Knifing someone in the eye, his gloves, etc. All looks real to me.

I still play Crysis @ High @ 70fps. I can play on Very High with 35 fps stable and under heavy explosions i hit 25. So I dont find a need to play Very High but I usually just bench my PC with that setting.

Now, I don't know much about it but for the Playstation 3's textures and the whole Blu-ray thing, don't you also need the GPU Ram to back it up, to have the textures loaded on screen etc. ? The PS3's physical available GPU RAM isn't that high.

Yes it will Need GPU Ram. I remember when I played COD4 with my 6800GT. God was it awful. I would hit the expanded console(shift + `) and see all the textures trying to cope with the space.

With my 9600GT it didnt do it as much until a lot of explosions or airstrike. With my 260 the game doesnt bother lol. Enough ram and core to handle that game @ 1080p and still give me 65FPS under heavy conditions.

i never saw the care package glitch on the ps3. just saw videos of it on youtube. I guess i got lucky. Obviously the graphics are better on PC when you jack up the resolution, i never said it wouldn't be. Im saying if you had all three games running at 720p on the same TV you could barely tell a difference. I've seen the BC2 demo on PC and i played it on my ps3, it looks better then the ps3 but it's also a newer build of the game so that was kinda expected. the graphics on PS3 were good, but the newer screenshots the graphics are even better.

Regardless of Build the PC version will always be better. Thats just the thing. Not arguring that the consoles version looks bad, actually it looks very nice for a console.

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Exactly again.

@Raj: You havent seen a cheater on the ps3.. What about the 10th prestige hack early on in the games life? Or care package glitch? This game is a FAIL on all 3 platforms. PC being the biggest. Lack of features/support.

Also, graphics are NO WHERE to what PC graphics can be. Play AC2 on your PS3 and then play it on PC. Yeah exactly. Play any other PS3 game that has a PC version thats NOT a crappy port(MW2, etc) and play it on PC. Our point exactly.

PC Graphics will be > Consoles for a long time to come. I want to say forever but I cant predict the future / someone will be a troll and make this comment into a big deal. So ill stick to PC Graphics > Consoles for a long time.

Play BC2 Demo on your PS3 and spookie/sethos/anaron or someone can post pictures of BC2 on there computer. You will loose. Believe me oh will you loose.

Consoles are generally ahead of the curve upon release. The reason this may not seem so is due to the ignorance developers have during their initial development phases. If a game that looked as good as Halo 3/Reach was a launch title then I am pretty sure the consoles would currently be giving PC's a run for their money. But you must consider that PC dev's can't pull the max out of hardware anyways, so what PC's "could" do may never be an "are doing" unless hardware for all PC's becomes unified to a single standard. Which will never happen, at least not in the foreseeable future.

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:( damnit i still play this game onilne all the time on my ps3, this is going to ruin it for me :(. luckily i didn't pay for it, it was a xmas gift but i loved COD6 online :(

reason i like the console version was for less cheating, so much for that theory

You don't have to worry about these hacks ever reaching PS3. As for Xbox 360, they've existed since the second week after MW2's release, so...this isn't anything new. Actually, not even a full 24hrs after the patch came out for Xbox 360, people had already gotten around it and had various hacks back into place like nothing ever happened.

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Exactly. They will stick to there defense and come at us(PC Gamers) that we "suck" with a controller and thats why we are "bitching". Actually no. I can do MUCH MORE with a Mouse/Keyboard then I can with a controller. Mouse/Keyboard offer flexibility. Controller does not.

I never understood how people felt a mouse and keyboard were better but Im certainly not gonna say its because you suck with a controller. I just suck with a keyboard and mouse :)
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I was under the impression that BC2 beta only came with the medium textures even when set to high and that retail would give us the high setting? Is this perhaps what you guys were thinking of? That's for the pc of course..

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Just been playing with a good friend of mine for the past few hours, got some good games in, not one instance of hacking. :)

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I never understood how people felt a mouse and keyboard were better but Im certainly not gonna say its because you suck with a controller. I just suck with a keyboard and mouse :)

Thats fine. Its people like you I respect. I went from PS2 controller(only play battlefield as an fps back then on consoles) to PC then to 360. When I did the transition to PC I started getting into Age of Empires. From there I went to starcraft(my 7th&8th grade teacher let us play it randomly through out the year) then A lot of people on forums started telling me play FPS, youll enjoy it more then consoles. They were right. My hand for as my cursor is MUCH faster then my thumb on the joystick. I mean I can crank up the sensitivity of the joystick to match my mouse so to say, but my thumb and a joystick vs my hand and a mouse. Personally a mouse handles much better for me.

I use to love playing battlefield on the PS2, then played Delta Force Land Warrior(my first fps) and I was hooked. I spent so much time in this game that I found out what I was, a sniper or knifer. I was either "Recon" or "CQB". This game established my base for all FPS games to come after that. I went to a 360 because all my friends had one and my computer was starting to show signs that I didnt know what to do and I had no money to fix it. So i started to play games less / play games that didnt have a problem. Games like COD4 ran perfect when I first built the computer but after over a year they started to bog down for no apparent reason(now ruled out as a failing psu issue). So I got more into CSS/DOD etc. Games that ran fine because they should of anyway. My old hardware wasnt all that old.

But got a 360, took my time to get use to it but I found the perfect balance between my thumb, the joystick and the sensitivity in games. Even so I still wasnt as fast as my PC self. Ive seen quit a few people who have "mastered" the controller. They are just as quick as me(on PC). Its amazing. Some people can use a controller(360, ps, etc) and some people are just mouse and keyboard. Me I will stick to my mouse and keyboard.

I like the fact that my left hand can do 45634616 things at once in a game and my right hand can "pin point" someone right as i see them. My connection with the mouse is stronger then the joystick.

But hey, everyone has to be good at something.

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I guess because the main games I ever played on a PC weren't really shooters or anything other than one Redneck Rampage which was awesome haha. But I dont find a controller slows me down. It's likely just because that's what I'm used to, I've played with them 95% of my games or more so it's a comfort thing. It feels really strange to use a keyboard and mouse for me.

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I guess because the main games I ever played on a PC weren't really shooters or anything other than one Redneck Rampage which was awesome haha. But I dont find a controller slows me down. It's likely just because that's what I'm used to, I've played with them 95% of my games or more so it's a comfort thing. It feels really strange to use a keyboard and mouse for me.

you dont know REAL control until you have gotten good at the 1:1 hand-to-game movement... when you dont have to 'steer' the view and you can just look around like you do in real life, that has no substitute....

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you dont know REAL control until you have gotten good at the 1:1 hand-to-game movement... when you dont have to 'steer' the view and you can just look around like you do in real life, that has no substitute....

Wow explained exactly how I feel when playing on PC. Its feels "normal" like your in sync with the computer 1:1

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