drshdw Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 i tried to upgrade to 3.5 and they didnt work, and too late for undo, and now i cant get it to go back to 3.4, install doesnt work..:(. any workaround? ati radeon 7000. worked before, stupid ati and their no 2k3 compatibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmh Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 lol. hopefully u made a restore point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 o damn, i forgot about those!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 2k3 has restore? o.O, i dun see it..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmh Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 whenever i install a new driver, i always, always, make a restore point. Its a good habit. try to go into device manager and delete it. then install the old drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 i have, umm 2k3 doesnt have system restore, i dont think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 helllp..movies are playing upside down now o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsears Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 I'm running 2003 and everything worked fine for me and my 9700... so there isn't any compatibility issue with the Cats and Windows 2003, unless there's I am wrong, and that's been known to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 aw crap then.and i dunno how to fix it either =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 i tried to upgrade to 3.5 and they didnt work, and too late for undo, and now i cant get it to go back to 3.4, install doesnt work..:(. any workaround? ati radeon 7000. worked before, stupid ati and their no 2k3 compatibility Okay, well I rarely post on Neowin, but I have to take this one. Before you go mindlessly bashing ATI for false claims like that, there is nothing with with ATI. First, Windows Server 2003 is NOT a desktop operating system, ATI doesnt need to make support because its not needed. Second, I have a 7500 in my Server and it works fine. I dont use catalysts because servers dont need further drivers. Anyway, beyond that, to fixing your problem. Try booting into safe mode and installing the 3.4 drivers. If you cant get into safe mode, get another video card and stick it in the computer, boot it up, then install the drivers. Sorry if I sounded mean, not trying to ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted June 25, 2003 Supervisor Share Posted June 25, 2003 helllp..movies are playing upside down now o.O Then flip the moniter over... :) Sorry, couldn't resist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 lol i cant flip my lcd monitor around. i tried installin the drivers in safe mode, said it didnt detect the card o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joswin Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Windows Server 2003 is NOT a desktop operating system, ATI doesnt need to make support because its not needed. They clearly are. And people like this annoy me (nothing personal). You have an ATI Graphics Card in your server then, you want proper supporting drivers of course. Does not matter if the features arent used. You paid for the features you want to be able to use them if you wish. What about control panels? Adjusting gamma? Anything.. ATI are obligated to provide drivers for ongoing support of their hardware - Ignoring customer requests will lose them customers. You can have a server running things that require 3D (such as if you are running a game server - u want it on 24/7 showing battles in progress - just an example) too anyway, might not be common but its not unheard of. Point isnt WHY we want them, point is we SHOULD have them. No excuses ATI, please get it sorted. IMHO ATI should provide these drivers just incase a user needs them, how hard is it for them to add support and fix the small niggles people are having?? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joswin Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 I personally havent had a problem with the 3.5's under 2003. Not specific to the 3.5's anyway. The only ongoing problem im having is with AGP Texturing (been there with 3.2/3.4 and now 3.5 - Stupid SmartGART :/). Apart from that it makes a bloody good Workstation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 they used to work :( now they dont, poops. why shouldnt ati have 2k3 support betaz. rendering farms require the 3d acceleration, does ati not want people to use their products? thats screwed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 they used to work :( now they dont, poops. why shouldnt ati have 2k3 support betaz. rendering farms require the 3d acceleration, does ati not want people to use their products? thats screwed up Uh, render farms don't use consumer based 3d cards :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 mine does ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PF Prophet Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 lol its an avi/mpeg format issue what u using to play movies? if you need a good tool look on www.divx-digest.com and get sasimi 2k (spelling may be off) its really good has fix mode for that as well as supersampling if ya need it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 nah it didnt do it before when i had the 3.4s installed, and it only does it on some moves, i use wmp. it used to be fine =\. damn ATI!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yotce Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 1. There are utility called Driver Cleaner . Try to clean-up your system and then try again to install Catalyst 3.5; 2. Probably, there are some issues that can prevent ATI drivers install and sucessfull uninstall too! If noting othercan help, try the following (works for me): DL Omega drivers (a third-party ATI drivers package) and install them, they have a different installer. If all is OK, try to install 3.5 again. 3. Don't pay attention to peoples that says "...that is server OS". Everybody know that Win2003 is not more than pumped XP and everybody that don't pay for it can be happy with win2003 as desktop OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleni Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 3.5 works on my win2k3 box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 yotce, i tried it, the driver installs, 3.4 giving a 4/28/03 date, but the control panel still wont activate =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 3.5 detects my 7000 as a 9200 mobile o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joswin Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Well bad news guys, i posted a question in rage3d about the possibility of drivers for 2003. CATALYST does not include support for Server Operating Systems. ATI's server products are the RageXL and the RADEON 7000. Both of those products have drivers as part of the Operating System. Until there is a clear business requirement for 3D acceleration support for Server Operating Systems we dont plan on including Server2003 as part of CATALYST.This is a 5,000 dollar Operating System right? If you bought that OS I assume you are running a server? If so the OEM of the server machine will also be able to provide you driver updates for your 2D card if you need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 stupid ATI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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