Xenomorph Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's always a sticking point, supporting old browsers on many websites, it causes many development issues and in some cases even limits what we can do at all! So lets hear it, does your boss still have you working on Windows 98 or Windows 2000 with IE6, or have you got a really old computer at home and use Internet Explorer 6 on it? Additionally, for readers that can't move away from IE7/8 there is a "fix" you can install in Internet explorer called "Google Frame" that rounds off Atlas as we intended it, by adding "webkit" to IE. Download here Things like Google Frame and WebKit in Internet Explorer make NO sense to me. The whole point of many places being stuck with Internet Explorer is because they are using some horrid web-application that requires IE's broken rendering engine to even work. If you replace IE's rendering engine with something better, be it Chrome or whatever else, then the program that REQUIRED IE will no longer work, as a different engine is now loaded up when you run IEXPLORE.EXE. So ... what's the point of such things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted March 1, 2010 MVC Share Posted March 1, 2010 I almost want to believe those who voted for IE + hardware support are just doing that to **** on the poll :p Did you see my question from before? Not sure if you would know, just thought I would ask again because it seems to really be at the heart of the issue. Were the developers limited in any aspect during development of Atlas because of IE6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted March 2, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 2, 2010 Did you see my question from before? Not sure if you would know, just thought I would ask again because it seems to really be at the heart of the issue. We were limited by IE in general tbh :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 No, we are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Has Microsoft announced anything about the rendering engine that will power IE on Windows Phone 7 Series? If it is the same engine that's in WM and Zune HD right now then it is going to have most of the same quirks that IE6 has on the desktop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabron Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Internet Explorer 6 should have been dead long time ago. I can't believe people still using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelli Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Drop it, the amount of users running IE6 that would be reading a technological website/forum such as this would be so small that the effect would be negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted March 2, 2010 MVC Share Posted March 2, 2010 We were limited by IE in general tbh :p Ha ha ha, never mind then. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 If everyone keeps supporting IE6 until eternity companies and users of the browser will not feel the need to change. Which means it's a Vicious Cycle where we cant move forward because people use the old browser but people wont upgrade because developers keep restricting what they do to compensate for IE6. I say drop it and lets help to kill this browser once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 If everyone keeps supporting IE6 until eternity companies and users of the browser will not feel the need to change. Which means it's a Vicious Cycle where we cant move forward because people use the old browser but people wont upgrade because developers keep restricting what they do to compensate for IE6. I say drop it and lets help to kill this browser once and for all. We seriously have to stop this love triangle between users>companies>&IE6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 It is time for IE6 to die. Google is doing it and Neowin should as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Veteran Posted March 2, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 2, 2010 Things like Google Frame and WebKit in Internet Explorer make NO sense to me. The whole point of many places being stuck with Internet Explorer is because they are using some horrid web-application that requires IE's broken rendering engine to even work. If you replace IE's rendering engine with something better, be it Chrome or whatever else, then the program that REQUIRED IE will no longer work, as a different engine is now loaded up when you run IEXPLORE.EXE. So ... what's the point of such things? It doesn't replace the whole rendering engine. It looks at the pages and if a certain <meta> tag is found, it uses WebKit engine only for that page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilrich Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I say drop it too. Force everyone to upgrade :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Majesticmerc MVC Posted March 2, 2010 MVC Share Posted March 2, 2010 KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Xomkey Subscriber² Posted March 2, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted March 2, 2010 IE6 must die die die .... *burns ie6* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted March 2, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 2, 2010 IE6 support should definitely be dropped. It should have died long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance. Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Why is the poll a checklist :s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted March 2, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 2, 2010 Why is the poll a checklist :s? So you can vote more than once? maybe your work requires it + you have a ****ty pc :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted March 2, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted March 2, 2010 It's because IE6 explodes whenever it's required to make a whole decision. It's an indecisive browser. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nautiqueskier Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I think IE6 support has pretty much become a liability at this point, That and most Neowin readers are technically inclined and aren't running it anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Though I agree that most of neowins members are technically inclined, some people aren't and i'm betting the majority of non-registered users that lurk around probably aren't either. So I say, if you have the time and resources, keep itm if not dump it. Doesn't neowin have a stats page on browser usage? Does IE6 have a considerable amount of hits within neowin to consider keeping it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier1st Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 IE6 support should be dropped as it's holding back everything including neowin and i left IE years ago but was forced to use it years ago because netscape 4xx could not do something that was important but have since dropped it unless i have to use it which is rare(IE8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Removing IE6-specific hacks? Sure, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Charming Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 woopwoop, IE8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ferson Veteran Posted March 6, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 6, 2010 I believe we should drop support for Internet Explorer. Of course, I don't really come here often enough to know if that would be a good idea or not. IE6 is an ancient browser, and the only place I see it used anymore is at my school. And my school blocks this site anyway, so I don't think my situation is the same as many other members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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