Spookie Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Looks like Activision figured they were going to get ****ed with BF:Bad Company 2 and it's glory and they need a way to get the attention back on them. lolwut? :| As the guys over on Giantbomb said: It's an enormous cluster****. While it's well documented that IW weren't happy with Activision. But it's their own fault for selling their company and IP to em. Will be interesting to see how many of the IW staff now bail and jump ship to what ever new studio is spawned out of this. Though I expect Activision to give them as twice as much **** as they did to Double Fine over Brutal Legend. edit: Activision announces new "strategic plans" for Call of Duty franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 If I was IW I'd pull the servers from all their games right now and walkout. which only really hurts the gamers who happen to be those getting behind Infinity Ward now. It also opens up more legal possibilities for Activision to exploit. Hardly a good move. Looks like Activision figured they were going to get ****ed with BF:Bad Company 2 and it's glory and they need a way to get the attention back on them. Activision already have their sales and they're probably at least 6 months out from another release if they are to get a 2010 release. BF:BC2 isn't going to screw them over what so ever...in fact it may keep people interested in the genre until the next COD game. Even if BC2 takes away some online players now I'm sure the big fans will still buy the next CoD if they are interested in the franchise later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 3, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 3, 2010 Sacked Infinity Ward duo: Activision didn't want Modern Warfare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Routerbad Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Pfft Microsoft would make IW games Xbox exclusives, no thanks. A major corporation is bullying a smaller company into doing what it wants, I guess the only thing new about this is that it got caught by the media. I wonder if someone has a tally on how many third party developers have become first party developers in the current generation. I read an article in the forums earlier that put the Sony count at 15 game studios. At least if Microsoft had them they would be released on PC as well, end of line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin in a box Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 If MS got an exclusive deal it could go 1 of 2 ways: All he hardcore COD fans would rush to buy a 360/PC capable of running it Would hate MS for making it exclusive and would hurt sales significantly. They'd be losing money too; although the PS3 version of games generally don't sell as well as the 360 variation (with Batman: Arkham Asylum being an exception), but that doesn't it isn't selling at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 3, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 3, 2010 MS wouldn't hire them because if they did they'd cause a huge tiff with Activision and like it or not, they're one of the biggest publish/developers right now, if MS hired the two previous senior heads of IW it would be more like COD PS3 exclusive. Activision own COD and everything associated to it, not these two guys, which is why they'd of had no leverage. Chances are whatever they do Activision will give them hell with litigation if they try to create a shooter independently or whomever they end up with. IW are still owned by Activision, as is the COD brand and everything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin in a box Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 IW are owned by Activision until October IIRC. I would have thought then Activision will just let them go and keep the COD label? And then if IW kick up a fuss, which they should do, Activision will try to buy it- will they not? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted March 4, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 4, 2010 MS wouldn't hire them because if they did they'd cause a huge tiff with Activision and like it or not, they're one of the biggest publish/developers right now, if MS hired the two previous senior heads of IW it would be more like COD PS3 exclusive. Like anyone cares about "CoD" any more after all this crap. MW2 was already terrible. The talent is where these 2 developers go and if MS snatch them up it'd be a huge kick in the nuts to any CoD games & Activision. That's the whole point.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 MS wouldn't hire them because if they did they'd cause a huge tiff with Activision and like it or not, they're one of the biggest publish/developers right now, if MS hired the two previous senior heads of IW it would be more like COD PS3 exclusive. Activision own COD and everything associated to it, not these two guys, which is why they'd of had no leverage. Chances are whatever they do Activision will give them hell with litigation if they try to create a shooter independently or whomever they end up with. IW are still owned by Activision, as is the COD brand and everything to do with it. I'm just jumping in here, but are you saying if they hired the fired Activision people they'd cause a major tiff? I don't follow that logic. Activision needs Microsoft just as much as Microsoft needs Activision. Activision wouldn't do crap if Microsoft hired their ex-employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 4, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 4, 2010 I'm just jumping in here, but are you saying if they hired the fired Activision people they'd cause a major tiff? I don't follow that logic. Activision needs Microsoft just as much as Microsoft needs Activision. Activision wouldn't do crap if Microsoft hired their ex-employees. Listen to the GiantBombcast podcast for the first 20 mins or so where they talk about this, explain the issues these devs are going to come up against much better than I can and offers insight into how IW themselves sort of dug this hole with their public approach to slating Activision. Also talks about other things to do within IW, and how if Activision remain in command of the IP (COD) wherever these guys go Activision will try their best to red tape any FPS competition. They said the best place the guys could go would be EA, another publisher, not any of the platform holders due to Activision retaliation or starting their own studio if they can gut some of the current IW staff. Do you not remember all the hassle Activision gave EA over publishing Brutal Legend after they dropped it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I would go further to say the Activision needs Microsoft MORE than Microsoft needs Activision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas-c Veteran Posted March 4, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 4, 2010 Not really sure how this works... is IW a part of activision then? Surely is west and the other guy are in charge IW is their company with the rights to COD and surely they can then jump ship to EA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted March 4, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 4, 2010 & aren't we forgetting it was just a few months ago Activison was flinging mud at Sony to "buck up" with the PS3 because of the lack of sales on the PS3 etc etc. 360 & PC is their bread & water right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas-c Veteran Posted March 4, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 4, 2010 360 & PC is their bread & water right now. Because activision support PC soooo well :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goji Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Activision couldn't do crap if Microsoft hired their ex-employees. Corrected that for you. Though I'm leery of to many in house producers for one console, Activision in all honesty doesn't have much wiggle room. Because Xbox is overtly regulated with all of its services, public perception of the 360 (aside from RROD) is very high; it is a titan of a brand. Activision on the other hand is possibly nothing more than a logo on a splash screen for many console gamers. These mass casual gamers expect the war games and music games they have published, but not because it is an Activision title. Also talks about other things to do within IW, and how if Activision remain in command of the IP (COD) wherever these guys go Activision will try their best to red tape any FPS competition. They said the best place the guys could go would be EA, another publisher, not any of the platform holders due to Activision retaliation or starting their own studio if they can gut some of the current IW staff. Do you not remember all the hassle Activision gave EA over publishing Brutal Legend after they dropped it? Activision may attempt to red tape as much as they want, but they can't stop the creative abilities these persons have. The market will respond to half a$$ efforts. And EA came out on top inspite of Activision, so nothing is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 4, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 4, 2010 & aren't we forgetting it was just a few months ago Activison was flinging mud at Sony to "buck up" with the PS3 because of the lack of sales on the PS3 etc etc. 360 & PC is their bread & water right now. 360 and PS3, not PC. COD sales on PS3 are always higher than PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 360 and PS3, not PC. COD sales on PS3 are always higher than PC. Don't forget about WoW, Starcraft, and Diablo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Listen to the GiantBombcast podcast for the first 20 mins or so where they talk about this, explain the issues these devs are going to come up against much better than I can and offers insight into how IW themselves sort of dug this hole with their public approach to slating Activision. Also talks about other things to do within IW, and how if Activision remain in command of the IP (COD) wherever these guys go Activision will try their best to red tape any FPS competition. They said the best place the guys could go would be EA, another publisher, not any of the platform holders due to Activision retaliation or starting their own studio if they can gut some of the current IW staff. Do you not remember all the hassle Activision gave EA over publishing Brutal Legend after they dropped it? Yes, and at the end of the day EA published Brutal Legend -- Activision had no ground to stand on. I fail to see what they'd be able to do if the Infinity Ward people that they fired went to Microsoft. Would it cause some problems? Maybe slightly, but I really don't see it affecting their working relationship at all. I'm not trying to sound rude about this, but I'm not going to listen to 20 minutes of a podcast just because it has an opinion. That's what I'm here for :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 5, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 5, 2010 Yes, and at the end of the day EA published Brutal Legend -- Activision had no ground to stand on. I fail to see what they'd be able to do if the Infinity Ward people that they fired went to Microsoft. Would it cause some problems? Maybe slightly, but I really don't see it affecting their working relationship at all. I'm not trying to sound rude about this, but I'm not going to listen to 20 minutes of a podcast just because it has an opinion. That's what I'm here for :) It's more than an opinion it's journalists talking about stuff people don't seem to have a firm handle on just as well in here. Do what you want I just said I'm not swinging back and forth with anyone after listening to that podcast and realizing the true mess this is going to create, it's not as simple as some of you think for these guys to carry on, unless they now win this lawsuit, and it also shows IW weren't saints either in the way they went around business in the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 and it also shows IW weren't saints either in the way they went around business in the office. That seemed fairly obvious if you ever watched the bonus round they were on. Arrogant tossers and though I don't like them if they put a dent in Activision I'll be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Because activision support PC soooo well :blink: Clearly most people didn't care at all about the lack of dedicated servers since COD:MW2 outsold COD4 on PC at launch and there is no problem finding players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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