Valve Leaks Teaser Images for Upcoming Mac Game Announcement


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i wouldnt expect your current purchases to still be playable.

historically not many companies put both binaries under the same key/disk ( only one i know of is Blizzard )

I would. It wouldn't make any sense for Valve to force people to re-purchase games they already own for Windows on OS X.

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I would. It wouldn't make any sense for Valve to force people to re-purchase games they already own for Windows on OS X.

Yeah... because Valve wouldn't see any reason to charge Mac users (a new target market in their view) for a game... </sarcasm>

Am I the only one who thinks Valve just finally realized they could make more money by selling games to Mac users too...? I'm not against games on the Mac, I'm just saying.

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I would like to see it as "If you own a game you own a game regardless of platform" that way i wont have to burn down valve HQ ^.^

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Yeah... because Valve wouldn't see any reason to charge Mac users (a new target market in their view) for a game... </sarcasm>

Am I the only one who thinks Valve just finally realized they could make more money by selling games to Mac users too...?

Think about it: The people who are likely to install Steam and the Source engine games on OS X probably own the games on Windows already. What earthly reason would Valve have to **** those people (myself included) off by charging them twice?

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It's your account, you've bought games on that account. Logging in lets you download the game. It auto detects the format and downloads the correct one.

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not really, i bought the steam version of Defcon/UT3

i have to repurchase the Mac Version ( iv checked years ago ), same with other programs that i have for Mac vs PC. the only programs that i could, are Blizzards games off the disk or Battlenet website

so it auto DLing the Mac version may not be the case, i would be verry happy if it would, as i own all of valve's games, and other steam games.

the only to know for shure is if Valve fully says it, or they let mac users play with it early

It's your account, you've bought games on that account. Logging in lets you download the game. It auto detects the format and downloads the correct one.

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It's obvious what this all means.. Source Engine is coming to OS X! I'm looking forward to this.

I highly doubt the entire Steam catalogue would work on it though.

First the Telltale Tool, and now Source? Looks like Mac is getting games. :3 Slowly.

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Think about it: The people who are likely to install Steam and the Source engine games on OS X probably own the games on Windows already. What earthly reason would Valve have to **** those people (myself included) off by charging them twice?

They had no qualms about canceling the Black Box and making us pay for the old HL2 games again. :p I'm pretty sure they won't give away the OSX versions of anything.

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This is perfect for a person like me. With a 360, PS3, Wii, and a Mac I feel no need to get a gaming PC.

God I can't wait to play TF2 on my iMac

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I don't think they have anything to worry about.

Most Macs aren't well equipped for gaming, and even if it comes with decent hardware, upgrading is still an issue unless you have one of those really high-end Macs. You'll enjoy gaming for a year, and then to enjoy new games you can't simply throw in a new video card, you'll be required to buy a completely different system.

That's just my take on the situation.

I disagree, while yes Macs are extremely limited in terms of what they can do (gaming wise) and unless your willing to spend 5k+ to get a Mac pro your options are limited. However, look at consoles they are stuck with the same hardware for ~5 or so years and they do alright. PC gaming will always be at the cutting edge but I get the feeling because of the closed nature of the hardware on a Mac, it might be done more like how it's done with console games (i.e. the game developers pretty much know the specs for the machines their games run on and can optimize the game to run on those specs, unlike PC gaming where they need to cater for a larger variety of hardware). This is pure speculation so take with a grain of salt.

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I would like to see it as "If you own a game you own a game regardless of platform" that way i wont have to burn down valve HQ ^.^

Think about it: The people who are likely to install Steam and the Source engine games on OS X probably own the games on Windows already. What earthly reason would Valve have to **** those people (myself included) off by charging them twice?

It's your account, you've bought games on that account. Logging in lets you download the game. It auto detects the format and downloads the correct one.

Look, you guys might be right, but all I'm saying, is that it is not in Valve's financial best interests to give the Mac version of all those games for free. Now, it would be awesome if they just detected which platform you were running, and download that version, no extra fees... but I just doubt that will be the case. Why? Because they are going to incur costs re-engineering these games for the Mac platform. How do you expect them to pay for that? Again, they still may decide to do that to give the platform a push-start... but I just wouldn't count on it. The same goes for other developers, even more so in my opinion.

See these already posted examples:

not really, i bought the steam version of Defcon/UT3

i have to repurchase the Mac Version ( iv checked years ago ), same with other programs that i have for Mac vs PC. the only programs that i could, are Blizzards games off the disk or Battlenet website

so it auto DLing the Mac version may not be the case, i would be verry happy if it would, as i own all of valve's games, and other steam games.

the only to know for shure is if Valve fully says it, or they let mac users play with it early

They had no qualms about canceling the Black Box and making us pay for the old HL2 games again. :p I'm pretty sure they won't give away the OSX versions of anything.

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A lot of games that are PC only like games on Steam can easily be ported and able to run on Mac via Cider. Who says Steam haven't already ported the majority of games ready for when Steam for Mac goes live. I have HL2:E1 running natively on OSX and it works fine.

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God I can't wait to play TF2 on my iMac

Honestly, good luck with that.

TF2 is one of the least optimized and worst (stability-wise) source-based games I have seen.

It has next to no multi-core support, and to top it off, its very CPU limited. Not to mention the slightest thing can bring about crashes......a few weeks ago I was playing TF2 fine without any crashes, then all of a sudden I started getting a "Lump 53" crash. After discovering that was associated with HDR lighting (which I have had enabled since I BOUGHT TF2 and never seen the mentioned crash), I disabled HDR lighting and the crash stopped.

Honestly, unless Valve updates the TF2 engine quite a bit, I do not see it running very well on a Mac, its an extremely temperamental game....

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Honestly, good luck with that.

TF2 is one of the least optimized and worst (stability-wise) source-based games I have seen.

It has next to no multi-core support, and to top it off, its very CPU limited. Not to mention the slightest thing can bring about crashes......a few weeks ago I was playing TF2 fine without any crashes, then all of a sudden I started getting a "Lump 53" crash. After discovering that was associated with HDR lighting (which I have had enabled since I BOUGHT TF2 and never seen the mentioned crash), I disabled HDR lighting and the crash stopped.

Honestly, unless Valve updates the TF2 engine quite a bit, I do not see it running very well on a Mac, its an extremely temperamental game....

It's running quite well on my early 2008 iMac (C2D 2.0 GHz, Radeon 2400HD with 128 MB Graphics RAM) - on Windows 7. How well the OS X port is going to run remains to be seen.

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What I could see them doing, is if not offering the games for both platforms based on what was already purchased and on a persons account, they could sell the mac binary for a small fee, that way they still get theirs, but they aren't screwing over people too terribly bad. I don't see Valve going and being ******* about something like this.

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I can see Valve allowing anyone with a copy to run it on either platform without any fees tied to it. These are the guys that constantly and continually pump out new updates and features on their existing games without charging a penny for it, and they don't have to do any of that at all. It's also one of the reasons the Orange Box on the 360 has received no updates, because MS wants them to charge for the update as opposed to just giving it away. I don't necessarily see this being the case for non-Valve games however.

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What I could see them doing, is if not offering the games for both platforms based on what was already purchased and on a persons account, they could sell the mac binary for a small fee, that way they still get theirs, but they aren't screwing over people too terribly bad. I don't see Valve going and being ******* about something like this.

Yeah, if they charged for games that you already own, I would assume (hope) that it is a small fee.

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But that's the catch isn't it? "A game you already own" - I own it. Why should I pay for it again just to format shift it?

It's an age old arguement to a new age problem.

I personally wouldn't cough up to switch platforms, but that's me...

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I really hope they don't rip those of us who have already bought the games for PC off. Then again, I'm still going to need Windows for other games, so it won't really make that much difference I suppose.

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I can't wait to play a lot of these games on my MBP in OSX instead of BootCamping to Windows. To be honest I would consider paying an additional amount to get the OSX version to Steam games I already own, but only because when I purchased them I didn't consider it to be for all O.S.'s. However, having to re-purchase at full price would not impress me at all. Portal and HL2 I would grab no questions asked though.

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so that means they are porting all their games to openGL when they are all optimized for directx...

if this does happen, benchmarks will be nice!

and honestly i hope you don't have to pay again, but a little fee i wouldn't mind. HOnestly, all valves games working in OSX natively would be the perfect excuse to update my macbook.

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You never needed a high-end system, hardware wise, to run source engine.

Well that won't be the case though if Valve has made some sort of a deal w. Apple.

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Man, it's like everything I've been saying is coming true!

:laugh:

I can definitely see mac support being treated as an "update" to the already existing game, it's out of character for Valve to make people re-buy their games (and, if you're doing a unified purchase/download/drm system, it seems strange to then make an arbitrary division down system lines)

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I really hope they don't rip those of us who have already bought the games for PC off. Then again, I'm still going to need Windows for other games, so it won't really make that much difference I suppose.

Yes, I agree. Not going to drop some change on games I already own, but it will be nice if they are free downloads to people who already own the PC license.

Kudos to Valve. About time OSX got some backing by a major game studio (other than id) - the old argument about 'macs not being able to play games' has only ever been because no-one was developing for them! With some developer weight behind it, this could change. Microsoft should be a little worried by this IMHO.

Speaking of id software, I hope the id games I purchased through Steam will have Mac versions available through Steam :D. That would equally rock. In fact, this could be like Christmas on my MBP when it is released.

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