External HDD Veteran Posted March 11, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 11, 2010 Hey guys, I am a complete Mac newbie here. I nearly know nothing about it. I used it a few times, and actually liked it. Also, I am fed up with Windows' problem. I have a few questions for you. 1) I know Apple does an event where new Macs are introduced every year. When does that happen? If I buy one, will it become the older model in a few months? 2) Does boot camp simulate Windows perfectly? I probably won't be using it for gaming but I guess I will need programs like eviews. Well what the hell, does Windows in boot camp run any games? Thanks a lot. edit: forgot to mention, i'll be buying a laptop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Boot Camp does not simulate Windows, it just aides in the installation of Windows on Mac hardware (which is essentially custom PC hardware) Yes, Windows will be a 1:1 experience :) As for the apple event, well, they're a bit random, but check out http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayle12 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 2) Does boot camp simulate Windows perfectly? I probably won't be using it for gaming but I guess I will need programs like eviews. Well what the hell, does Windows in boot camp run any games? As for this question, yes Boot Camp runs Windows XP, Vista and 7 natively, so no loss of performance. I run Portal, Halo 2, etc on my Mac in Windows and it runs great. The nice thing about Boot Camp is, it's not virtulization, so you don't loose any performance. As for the 1st question, it depends what Mac you are getting. I would look at this guide, as it's very informational as when to buy your new Mac. Kayle haha.....looks like I was a little late to the plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Riske Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 You would be better to fix your windows problems or install linux mint, you haven't even experienced real problems until you own a mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilev Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 About running Windows on a Mac look here: How To: Run Windows in OS X, the Right Way : http://gizmodo.com/5487242/how-to-run-windows-in-os-x-the-right-way You should know that using Windows on a Mac requires the same effort in keeping the system secure , like installing anti-virus, anti-Malware, anti-rootkit, anti-botnet, anti-keylogger, firewall, updates and patches..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abysal Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 You would be better to fix your windows problems or install linux mint, you haven't even experienced real problems until you own a mac. nice... don't start until I get my pop corn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 such as ? ( only asking as i have had a mac for years with no issues other then HDD/Vid going bad, which happens regardless of OS used ) You would be better to fix your windows problems or install linux mint, you haven't even experienced real problems until you own a mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 You would be better to fix your windows problems or install linux mint, you haven't even experienced real problems until you own a mac. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Boot Camp is just a utility that automates partitioning and installation of Windows and drivers, and then gives you a pretty screen to choose between the two when you boot up. It isn't a virtual machine or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
External HDD Veteran Posted March 11, 2010 Author Veteran Share Posted March 11, 2010 Thanks for the info guys. I'm kinda excited, i can't decide between macbook or macbook pro but i'm really eager to try one. i guess i'll have to wait cause some people said it will have nice additions like usb 3 or bluray.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 2) Does boot camp simulate Windows perfectly? I probably won't be using it for gaming but I guess I will need programs like eviews. Well what the hell, does Windows in boot camp run any games? Boot camp works fine for running games as other people have pointed out. HOWEVER, if you are looking at buying a Macbook or Macbook Pro, you should know that Apple's Window's drivers are not as high of quality as I would like them to be. There is a serious lack of options (especially in regards to the keyboard and multi-touchpad drivers) AND the power options are not optimized for Windows 7. I'd say if you want a laptop and plan on running Windows more than half-of-the-time and good battery life in Windows is paramount, then buy a Windows laptop. If you just want to use Windows for gaming then you shouldn't have any problem and those issues that I have with Apple's drivers are moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted March 11, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted March 11, 2010 If you wish to play games, avoid the MacBook and 13" MacBook Pro - graphics performance is satisfactory, but I wouldn't recommend using it for gaming as such. Choose a 15" or 17" MacBook Pro with 512MB dedicated graphics card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigglesTheFish Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 You would be better to fix your windows problems or install linux mint, you haven't even experienced real problems until you own a mac. I thought you guys carried big clubs and lived under bridges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 You should know that using Windows on a Mac requires the same effort in keeping the system secure , like installing anti-virus, anti-Malware, anti-rootkit, anti-botnet, anti-keylogger, firewall, updates and patches..... Back to your cave, troll. Maybe you should stop visiting porn sites and downloading freeporn.exe if you need all that protection. As for firewall and updates, please. If you run any OS without a firewall and don't bother updating it, you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgsdfwerwer Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I bought an imac because a certain program i used became mac only. I was dead set on only using is for this one program and using bootcamp to use windows for everything else. After about a week or so on using the mac OS I was so happy with it that I never ended up installing windows. If only macs we're a third of the price, everyone would have em lol. and as for keeping windows secure...just windows firewall and a copy of the free AVG used to work wonders for me on windows 7. Obviously if your not tech savvy it might not be as appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
External HDD Veteran Posted March 11, 2010 Author Veteran Share Posted March 11, 2010 Umm, say, if i buy a mac now, the new one will be around the same price right? I heard about the new processors, will they offer a noticeable difference? and I heard about USB 3.0 and BluRay, are they true? I wish I had enough money for the 512mb graphics card ones but i guess i'll be going with the cheaper ones..especially when mac prices are nearly double here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Umm, say, if i buy a mac now, the new one will be around the same price right? I heard about the new processors, will they offer a noticeable difference? and I heard about USB 3.0 and BluRay, are they true? I wish I had enough money for the 512mb graphics card ones but i guess i'll be going with the cheaper ones..especially when mac prices are nearly double here.. The "noticeable difference" in the new processors will probably be more related to battery life than performance... at least for the vast majority of applications. Maybe games will run a little faster (although that will probably be more dependent on the graphics card, which will likely get a boost too in the next revision) and video processing will be a little faster. USB 3.0 is a strong possibility since we are seeing it in Windows laptops. I wouldn't hold my breath for BluRay. My understanding is that the output port on Mac's mini-display adapter is not HDCP (BluRay HD hardware DRM) compliant. I don't understand the technical limitations of the port beyond that. Apple may have a fix for that in the next release which would enable them to ship with BluRay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagor Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 the new processors are significantly faster and energy efficient than the current cpus used in macbook pros. it will be a better investment if you wait a couple of weeks. there are a lot of reviews comparing the old core 2 duo series chips with the new core i7 mobile chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElite Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 You would be better to fix your windows problems or install linux mint, you haven't even experienced real problems until you own a mac. This post was worth me coming to the thread for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted March 12, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 12, 2010 You would be better to fix your windows problems or install linux mint, you haven't even experienced real problems until you own a mac. Ummm. I am a Linux user. While Linux can be great and hassle-free, it can also be a bit finicky when doing initial setup and config. My wife used Linux and was happy with it. Yet, she is *much* happier with her Mac. I don't think she would ever go back to Windows. Nor do I think she would willingly jump back to Linux. Back to your cave, troll. Maybe you should stop visiting porn sites and downloading freeporn.exe if you need all that protection. As for firewall and updates, please. If you run any OS without a firewall and don't bother updating it, you're an idiot. Why so harsh? His statement that running Windows on a Mac will yield the same issues as running on a Dell/HP/homebrew is completely accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Yes, Windows will be a 1:1 experience :) That's highly questionable and usually it works fine but the Bootcamp drivers for Apple hardware they install on Windows might cause instability issues and similar. I've had problems with it on one of my computers and you have to install them. As I said, it should work but don't be surprised if you do experience some weird behaviors or crashes in Windows. You are essentially using Apple drivers for Windows for the motherboard and other stuff that comes in their computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Hey guys, I am a complete Mac newbie here. I nearly know nothing about it. I used it a few times, and actually liked it. Also, I am fed up with Windows' problem. I have a few questions for you. First of all just a note.. Don't believe all the hype.. OSX has it's own problems just like Windows.. crashes, driver incompatiblities and various issues that are really happening to people. It's far from seamless and bug-free experience. I have a top of the line Mac Pro and I've had quite a few issues over time with incompatible apps, drivers and bunch of stuff, especially when Snow Leopard came out. Plus in addition to that, you'll find that you might have issues working with Windows drives, data and so on and quite a few possibilities of losing data on external drives unless you make sure you unmount the drives everytime before you disconnect. I've lost 2 hard drive partitions like this. FAT32/NTFS is not something OSX is really great with so make sure you consider that. 1) I know Apple does an event where new Macs are introduced every year. When does that happen? If I buy one, will it become the older model in a few months? Unfortunately Apple hardware is obsolete as soon as it comes out. Actually obsolete might be a hard word.. but definitely behind the curve. It takes them a while to come out with stuff and they are always behind the PC market. Especially in graphic cards and processors. Some people don't care about that but I do so I'm giving my 2 cents. For example, new Mac Book/Pros are supposed to have i3 and i5 CPUs when new models come out.. These CPUs and laptops have been on the market for a while now and by the time new Apple ones come out you will probably buy faster ones for cheaper price on PC type laptops. It's the way it is. If you are buying a desktop machine get ready to always have behind the curve (mid-range) graphic card. Macs usually ship with only one card and Apple offers bottom/mid line cards for multi GPU configuration so you can connect more monitors. The reason is that they don't consider gaming a huge part and you can't plug enough power into the 2 cards of higher end PCs. When Apple comes out with a GPU upgrade for Macs, it's ridiculously overpriced. Sometimes $200-$300 over the price of the same cards for PCs. As I said, just be careful. I'm not writing this to deter your from buying. I just want you to understand that limitations in many aspects of running an Apple platform is because Apple wants to keep it as simple as possible since they don't have the resources to manage diversity in hardware. I would suggest you try to get or use Macs for a while and install everything you used on PC and see how it works for you. If you are gamer just running Windows will not be really enough. You will quickly be annoyed by the real limitations in upgrading. I have a Mac Pro 8-core packed to the tooth I paid $4,000 but since Apple switched to x86 architecture the value of a Mac used is not like it was (my Mac is worth maybe $1500 now) and considering you can't really upgrade what you want without a lot of hassle or at all, you will most likely need to buy a new computer when you want to upgrade which Apple is counting on and why they keep their platform the way it is. It's very expensive as a bottom line if you want to run something more current after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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