Skulltrail Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 :woot: Correction: Crytek's Crysis 2 is powered by a god-like entity, not CryEngine3. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 i will find that video... it was on youtube.. where it showed how u affect glass and concrete.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 ok it doesnt show glass breaking.. but ull get the idea when u see him shooting at the concrete.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 looks like this develops as if unwillingly ea games for the PC Is the Console the future for gamers but it still looking very nice. In terms of revenue, yes consoles are the future of gaming. PCs may be a superior platform but there are more consoles out there and more console owners with cash to burn there are they PC gamers. However, PC gaming isn't just going to die it still has plenty of life left in it too, it's just over time developers will start focusing more on consoles in an effort to increase their profits. To the video, looks good! the CryEngine has always been a damn nice engine just somewhat demanding, hopefully they can better optimise this one and it might get wider use this time. This could be serious competition to the aging (but extremely popular) UE3.0 if only CryTech can make it more scaleable (Y). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 i think the unreal engine is just mindblowing.. a few days back.. i was searchin for screenshots of bfbc2 on my pc.. and i took a look at every folder of game screens and i remember opening the folder of mirrors edge.. and man!!!! i miss the awesome texture and lighting of that game.. leme attach a screen :p its not on the realistic side ofcourse.. but such effects add to the atmosphere.. my only complaint with cryengine is that its tooooo flat.. take a look at this.. its overdone.. but damn it looks pretty :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted March 13, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 13, 2010 I can't say I'm as impressed as I was with CryENGINE 2. The jump from the graphics in Far Cry (CryENGINE) to Crysis (CryENGINE 2) was huge. Unfortunately, that isn't the case with Crysis 2. To me, it seems like they held back what they could do with the engine because of the PS3 and Xbox 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I can't say I'm as impressed as I was with CryENGINE 2. The jump from the graphics in Far Cry (CryENGINE) to Crysis (CryENGINE 2) was huge. Unfortunately, that isn't the case with Crysis 2. To me, it seems like they held back what they could do with the engine because of the PS3 and Xbox 360. you have to keep in mind most of what they showed was the CONSOLE version. I was blown away by that footage, and the PC version should be tons better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 the pc version would be better i think their new engine is scalable such that they can tune it down for the consoles easily.. that is why u see such nice framerates in the clip.. the pc must be better.. but they arent publishing pc content because they want all the hype they can create for the xbox and ps3 version.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted March 13, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 13, 2010 I have seen videos and screenshots of the PC version and it doesn't look significantly better than CryENGINE 2. It's good, but not CryENGINE 2 good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 i get ur point.. and ill say.. Crytek dont want us to play Crysis 2 with MAX settings 3 year after release :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted March 13, 2010 MVC Share Posted March 13, 2010 I always try to take these videos with a grain of salt. Nice to see what an engine is capable of at present, but show me the end product (Crysis 2) or some other optimized games on the engine and then I'll make a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 The coolest part about the engine is the CryEngine 3 Sandbox -- allows the devs to level build in real-time, and have it be automatically optimized and playable in real-time. Saw a woman building a level on a PC that was attached to a 360, which output on a 2nd screen nearly 1 to 1, very little delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead.cell Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I can't say I'm as impressed as I was with CryENGINE 2. The jump from the graphics in Far Cry (CryENGINE) to Crysis (CryENGINE 2) was huge. Unfortunately, that isn't the case with Crysis 2. To me, it seems like they held back what they could do with the engine because of the PS3 and Xbox 360. Meh, I really feel they've done a good job. I mean, graphics can only go so far before you end up dealing with ridiculous texture sizes and such requiring more and more power. I'd rather see more realism in the way environments function, as they've displayed. Realistic movements, lighting, and such will certainly allow you to become more pulled into the environment. At least, that's how I feel anyway. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted March 13, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 13, 2010 Meh, I really feel they've done a good job. I mean, graphics can only go so far before you end up dealing with ridiculous texture sizes and such requiring more and more power. I'd rather see more realism in the way environments function, as they've displayed. Realistic movements, lighting, and such will certainly allow you to become more pulled into the environment. At least, that's how I feel anyway. :) I agree as well. I still think the original graphics of Crysis (CryENGINE 2) have not really been overtaken yet anyway. Some games may be about on par with them right now, but nothing has exceeded yet IMO. So even if there is only a marginal increase on the visual side, as long as it can be run without having to once again go out and buy the most expensive components, I am all for that. Also as you said I think the type of graphics card that would be needed if the end result was an equivalent jump (meaning if the visual jump was as noticeable as it was from cryengine 1 to 2) would require as you just said, not only incredibly strong, but in turn incredibly expensive, hardware. So I am cool with CryEngine 2 visuals with better performance and way more attention to detail and interactivity. That is without a doubt fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 looks like fail gimmick as much as cry engine 2 was. They should just go do what they said before and develop only for consoles instead of wasting time on PC they fail at developing for pc so would only make sense really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted March 13, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 13, 2010 Meh, I really feel they've done a good job. I mean, graphics can only go so far before you end up dealing with ridiculous texture sizes and such requiring more and more power. I'd rather see more realism in the way environments function, as they've displayed. Realistic movements, lighting, and such will certainly allow you to become more pulled into the environment. At least, that's how I feel anyway. :) I agree as well. I still think the original graphics of Crysis (CryENGINE 2) have not really been overtaken yet anyway. Some games may be about on par with them right now, but nothing has exceeded yet IMO. So even if there is only a marginal increase on the visual side, as long as it can be run without having to once again go out and buy the most expensive components, I am all for that. Also as you said I think the type of graphics card that would be needed if the end result was an equivalent jump (meaning if the visual jump was as noticeable as it was from cryengine 1 to 2) would require as you just said, not only incredibly strong, but in turn incredibly expensive, hardware. So I am cool with CryEngine 2 visuals with better performance and way more attention to detail and interactivity. That is without a doubt fine by me. You guys brought up some good points, most of which didn't even occur to me. I mean, I was aware of it but not really aware of it. I guess I'll be happy if it looks better than CryENGINE 2, and runs better too. EDIT: Some of the stage demos at GameTrailers.com are pretty cool. Check them out here: http://www.gametrailers.com/game/cryengine-3/11027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 btw just to add.. ive played every graphics BIG game.. and nothing comes close to crysis !!!.. after how many 3 years?? nothing comes close.. but yes.. the optimizations sucked.. so if they can fix that part and release crysis 2 that i can pull off on MAX 30plus fps.. that will be WIN !!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I have seen videos and screenshots of the PC version and it doesn't look significantly better than CryENGINE 2. It's good, but not CryENGINE 2 good. Crysis 1 is still the best looking game out there. They really didn't need to do much. Cryengine 3 is mainly optimizing it for performance with the same level of visuals. @ the people syaing OMG PC IS DEAD THE SKY IS FALLING!!1 They are showing mostly console footage because this is the first version of cryengine to be on consoles and they are showing ti off. And there was some pc footage in the video and from the looks of it the pc gets some more advanced lighting at the very least. Crytek won't just abandon pc gamers, I am sure crysis 2 will be just as great as the first on pc. People complain about how bad crysis performed on pc, then when they optimize it heavily for crysis 2 they start saying how its 'dumbed down for consoles'. If it looks as good as crysis 1 and I can pull a smooth 40-50 fps I will be very satisfied. Crysis is still an incredibly good looking game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I can't say I'm as impressed as I was with CryENGINE 2. The jump from the graphics in Far Cry (CryENGINE) to Crysis (CryENGINE 2) was huge. Unfortunately, that isn't the case with Crysis 2. To me, it seems like they held back what they could do with the engine because of the PS3 and Xbox 360. Thank bloody god IMHO. Sure, they could triple the polygon counts ect but then they would have learnt nothing that was the release of Crysis where so many people struggled to play it. I'm all for games looking pretty but more important is the game needs to be playable by a wide audience without dropping down money for new machine. I'm not saying support half a decade old machines but Crysis to look like it did in the screen shots needed a pretty recent machine if you wanted it to run well. Add to that the fact people found the performance fluctuated a lot in the game (in particular the snow levels) and they had a bit of a mess IMHO. So it's nice to see some engine improvements but I'll be glad if they don't go overboard this time. Spend the time or money instead creating a more solid game around an engine thats not so loaded with state of the art effects that a wider audience can play it. The Cry engine still looks good anyway so it's not a huge issue as it is. They might even get some more companies licensing it if its proven to run well on the consoles. I think Valve has a winning formula. Sure Source looks pretty dated but at least everyone can run it and generally the incremental updates they have made have kept the games using it looking fairly decent, if nothing spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Thank bloody god IMHO. Sure, they could triple the polygon counts ect but then they would have learnt nothing that was the release of Crysis where so many people struggled to play it. I'm all for games looking pretty but more important is the game needs to be playable by a wide audience without dropping down money for new machine. I'm not saying support half a decade old machines but Crysis to look like it did in the screen shots needed a pretty recent machine if you wanted it to run well. Add to that the fact people found the performance fluctuated a lot in the game (in particular the snow levels) and they had a bit of a mess IMHO. So it's nice to see some engine improvements but I'll be glad if they don't go overboard this time. Spend the time or money instead creating a more solid game around an engine thats not so loaded with state of the art effects that a wider audience can play it. The Cry engine still looks good anyway so it's not a huge issue as it is. They might even get some more companies licensing it if its proven to run well on the consoles. I think Valve has a winning formula. Sure Source looks pretty dated but at least everyone can run it and generally the incremental updates they have made have kept the games using it looking fairly decent, if nothing spectacular. This is true, and now becuase they have it running great on consoles, and it's scaling so well, it should be much better then CE2 for middleware, which = PROFIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 The coolest part about the engine is the CryEngine 3 Sandbox -- allows the devs to level build in real-time, and have it be automatically optimized and playable in real-time. Saw a woman building a level on a PC that was attached to a 360, which output on a 2nd screen nearly 1 to 1, very little delay. Makes me want to try it out. Unfortunately I can neither afford it or the 360 dev kit. But this seems much more accessible than Source or Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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