How can my work spy on me?


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Yes it CAN be done, NO not in HIS case.

Did you not see the part where both he and i said that his company is using windows 98??? You cant monitor admin shares with win98, there ARE no admin shares. You can create shares. Access to the registry, i'm not sure about with win98, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt there. Remote access via MMC, once again, not with win98. As far as not needing to see what the user is doing to monitor user activity, did you not see what i posted above about auditing? Sheesh... :wacko:

So, "Yes, and No" IS a correct statement.

Edit: Most companies want 100% solid proof. What more proof can you give them than a screen shot, or series of screen shots, from the users PC that you took yourself remotely?

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I also do IT security and here is what we do.

1. we REQUIRE that all people sign a release. - with that we have don't have any privacy legality issues.

2. We monitor and track all usage.

3. We only look for patterns or heavy usage etc.

Remember as it was said, it is THEIR network, THEIR equipment etc. They have a LEGAL responsibily to ensure that no illegal activity is happening on the network. This is ALL emcompessing. They have any and all right to read email, monitor websites, and even take remote desktop shots if they desire. You as an employee have no right to THEIR stuff.

Remember that companys are scared about what is going down on their time. Also there have been major reports of companies that removed internet access and saw productivity climb 20% and removing email outside of company email dropped traffic 15+% those are big numbers when a company has to add a OC3 or a 3 T1 at $1000.00 a month to cover your internet and email traffic.

with all that said, it would be really sad to see me privaledges go. Heck I have to send my personal history file to my supervisor for verification, since we monitor and follow others around the internet. We do it so that the BAD sites (fired a lady ast week for 5 year old lesbian porn sites) we are off the hook when they match a workers computer.

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The company I work for monitors all usage, from your browser to what you are doing on x-windows. Firewall is pretty tight now as well. Anything sports related is locked now. It is for "legitimate use" only.

When you are hired, you sign a consent for monitoring of all activity, and every time you log in you are warned at the log in that all activity is logged.

So, we all bring our laptops in and have a wireless network for our personal use!

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Remember this THEY CAN SEE AND HEAR EVERYTHING!

NOTHING you do is private, NOTHING.

They can see what is on your screen, log every key you press, know every website you go to (infact chances are they store everything on that site on there proxy server).

When at work you need to ask yourself one thing "is this worth my job?". If you company says you can't check your email then DO NOT CHECK YOUR EMAIL! If it is REALLY important then talk to your manager and explain this to them, chances are they will understand and have a chat with the network admin and they should be able to arrange something with them, such as you can check your mail with the network admin present on a different system (at least this is what my manager did for me).

Also never think you know more than the network admin, dont think you can get "past" him and get to a blocked website, etc.

He (or she) can see EVERYTHING you do and even an idiot can use todays monitoring applications. Do not risk your job (maybe even your future in that career!!) to check your mail.

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Seeing as your connection goes through the server, they can see what sites you visited, files you downloaded, images you viewd, how long for and if you sent any data back via a form (such as this).

And BELIEVE ME, they do. My predecessor was fired for posting anti-company information to a site such as this.

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yeah i'm pretty sure it's possible for them to be watching you

Dont believe that, just a simple program like VNC can be used to see a desktop remotely without you knowing.

Don't think they cant see you, they can do ANYTHING on your computer. Dont take the risk.

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this is what i did to keep form being cought at my school.

they have monitoring software there where they can see your desktop and freeze it whenever they want.

The smart thing to do would be to have radmin on your home pc running so that you can connect to it via the computer wherever you're at and surf the web etc.

if you're feeling spunky, you could get a nice litle list of good anonymous proxies and use a portable linux distribution (like one that boots from cd) and use the proxy in the browser so they cant see what you're doing.

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Yeah if you have a job that you like then take it from me you dont want to put that in jeopardy over anything especially something silly like browsing to places you shouldnt go.

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If they wanna watch you its extremlly easy to do... as it is the Log all Email that comes and go's weather it be company e-mail or aol & msn...so you can never be to sure what they see and what they don't see

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I can understand them seeing everything and all surf related... BUT what about messenger? is it possible to prevent them from seeing what you chat with co-workers and such?

are there any software that could hide this?

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I can understand them seeing everything and all surf related... BUT what about messenger? is it possible to prevent them from seeing what you chat with co-workers and such?

are there any software that could hide this?

Nope...depending on what the company does is how how they track your doing...Say Stock compmny...they Logg Everything no matter what it is

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not really. My firm uses some pretty trick stuff. I'm best friends with the IT manager and so he shows me how it all works. The software we use records ALL keystrokes, runs so quietly that even an advanced user wouldn't know it was there, and can't be uninstalled except by the domain administrator. We use it to track employees whom we suspect of misusing the internet connection--eBay a lot, chatting too much, etc. It's kinda scary in a way. We know everything. :devil:

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not really. My firm uses some pretty trick stuff. I'm best friends with the IT manager and so he shows me how it all works. The software we use records ALL keystrokes, runs so quietly that even an advanced user wouldn't know it was there, and can't be uninstalled except by the domain administrator. We use it to track employees whom we suspect of misusing the internet connection--eBay a lot, chatting too much, etc. It's kinda scary in a way. We know everything. :devil:

is there anyway to "find" this app running on your computer? I mean there HAS to be a sniffer software that finds stuff like that!!

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I don't know all the details, but from what I've been told by my IT friend, it's pretty much bulletproof. And I believe him. When he implements stuff like this, he doesn't screw around, he doesn't go halfway. From what I know, it even manages to hide itself from the Processes list. The only MENTION of it anywhere is in the registry, and we don't allow users into the registry anyway. If someone does get into it though (or any other restricted area that we define), it can execute a pre-defined freeze or shutdown script. The admin can also manually freeze the user's workstation remotely, or shut it down. All attempts to open unauthorized programs or websites are flagged for the administrator, and this is all totally transparent to the user (except for the extreme cases where we lock down the workstation).

For example, we know that last week, among other things, this woman we are monitoring tried to install AIM 3 times on her computer; she bought a coffeemaker, lamp, and several movies on eBay; she wrote 5 times as many personal emails as work-related emails, some of them to her sister about an affair she's having, what she thinks of her boss, and how the IT department is incompetent and nothing ever works on her computer. Hehe, my friend liked that last one. Anyway, we know all this without EVER actually being at her computer. We can watch her do it real-time or check on her later via a very nice log that is written to a web site set up for this software. It truly is amazing. I knew there was pretty good surveillance software available for companies, but this freaked me out. So, yes, it is pretty much impossible to get rid of. If you try, if you can actually FIND it, it sets off all sorts of alarms. Don't mess with it. Sorry ;)

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Oh yea, i forgot to mention. RADMIN 3.0 is coming out soon with LOADS of new features, including remote printing to YOUR printer and blanking the screen of the remote pc so they cannot see what you are doing... :D

I cannot wait for the new version! I use this software 24/7.

christ do you work for RADMIN :| lol

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no problem sithraziel...

heh, no i dont work for RADMIN, but it really is good software. The best of its kind i have found so far.

Since i run 3 domain controllers, e-mail server, HTTP server (PHP, SQL, Perl, Etc.), FTP server and 2 file servers at home AND manage all the servers/workstations at work, I use this software alot. LOL. :rofl:

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no problem sithraziel...

heh, no i dont work for RADMIN, but it really is good software. The best of its kind i have found so far.

Since i run 3 domain controllers, e-mail server, HTTP server (PHP, SQL, Perl, Etc.), FTP server and 2 file servers at home AND manage all the servers/workstations at work, I use this software alot. LOL.  :rofl:

I use Ranger and in my opinion it is a far superior suite.

Particularly when applications need rolled out. I can simpy install the software on a local machine and ranger can then build a package of that software. This package can be remotly added or removed from any client, making uninstalling Acrobat 5 and installing Acrobat 6 on 200 machines very simple.

They even have a Solo version for locking down laptops. Truly an excellent range of programs.

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Guys, nothing is safe, no such thing as privacy, you can run as many firewallsanti keyloggers as you want, I deal with this on a daily basis, if needed, I would just log the raw udp/tcp packets to see what you are sending/receiving. All outgoing traffic is blocked except for the few authorized protocols, and pcanywhere/remote desktop etc are not part of it, so forget about bypassing stuff ;) It's your work computer, use it for what it was intended for, work.

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