Ubisoft's site hacked by pirates


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-unnecessary +hilarious.

The whole world is watching now to see how Ubisoft new DRM fares, if its successful count on a lot of the big name publishers/developers to start implementing this sort of DRM. Ubisoft needs to fail, hard. Its only PC users that get punished, none of this ridiculous DRM on the consoles.

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Haha Skidrow!! They make nice pirate releases, but that totally ruled!

Anyway, I don't think it's the guys. I think UBI did this to themselves so they can blame Skidrow.

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Defeating this DRM by any means necessary isn't a victory for pirates, although it may be made out as as such. It is a victory for the consumer.

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-unnecessary +hilarious.

The whole world is watching now to see how Ubisoft new DRM fares, if its successful count on a lot of the big name publishers/developers to start implementing this sort of DRM. Ubisoft needs to fail, hard. Its only PC users that get punished, none of this ridiculous DRM on the consoles.

Actually, I'm willing to bet that part is over now. Obviously implementing such a strict form of DRM that causes people to attack their servers and website will be frowned upon. I mean, it's bad enough how much bad press certain games get for going over the top like EA did with Spore. Having this added in the mix surely won't sound like an ideal solution for anti-piracy measures.

I could be wrong though, and perhaps we'll see more of this sort of DRM. If we do though, I simply ask that you people speak with your wallets. Enough of this buying and whining nonsense. :ermm:

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nice bookmarks...

Not mine Actually

However i m getting reports that it is fake..not sure 100%

however i seen this image yesterday night.

but who knows may be they hacked after i viewed the page.

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Pretty funny but I doubt Skidrow actually did the hacking. Not only would it would it put them at risk of getting caught, their stuff is cracking games, not hacking websites because they disagree with a type of drm.

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The big question everyone is asking is what happens in a year or two when Ubisoft stops supporting these games? Do we lose the ability to play them or what? So Ubisoft is basically renting you games at full price right now, for all we know.

Ubisoft has already stated that this DRM can easily be removed with a patch when they shut the servers down. So when they decide running the servers for DRM checks is no longer profitable, they can (according to their statement) easily patch the game to remove the DRM.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=235596&site=pcg

What happens when it becomes economically inefficient to run the servers for these games? Will Ubisoft take the servers down? And will that mean we can't play the games we bought?

The first point Ubi makes is that they intend for the servers to stay up.

"Say in 5 years someone who bought Assassin's Creed 2 wants to go back and play it, the hope is, the plan is that we'll be on Assassin's Creed, I dunno, 3, 4, 5, and the servers will still be there to serve those new games," explains their spokesperson. "They'll also be able to serve the old games." But Ubisoft have the ability to patch the DRM out of their games. "If for some reason, and this is not in the plan, but if for some reason all of the servers someday go away, then we can release a patch so that the game can be played in single-player without an online connection. But that's if all of the servers are gone."

They also state earlier on in that:

They accept that it's all DRM's fate to be eventually hacked, explaining that internally, they've already talked of a timescale for how long their games will be protected by it. But, they believe that it's secure enough for them.

"We wouldn't do it if we didn't believe in it. The guys who designed it believe in it. Do we think that it's the one system that God has sent onto earth that will never be cracked by anybody ever? We can't guarantee that, but we believe in it. "

So they basically plan that the DRM will eventually be cracked, yet they still wasted time and money on developing something that will affect the legit customer more than it will affect the pirates.

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Ubisoft has already stated that this DRM can easily be removed with a patch when they shut the servers down. So when they decide running the servers for DRM checks is no longer profitable, they can (according to their statement) easily patch the game to remove the DRM.

http://www.computera...235596&site=pcg

They also state earlier on in that:

So they basically plan that the DRM will eventually be cracked, yet they still wasted time and money on developing something that will affect the legit customer more than it will affect the pirates.

All that doesn't change the fact that bigger games have sold perfectly fine with pretty much 0 DRM (BC2, ME2, DA:O, Fallout 3 etc) making any sort of reason they have for this kind of "protection" pointless. If you make a good game people will buy it. Ubisoft apparently hasn't learned that lesson yet, as far as the drm is concerned.. they should take notes.

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When I read that you have to constantly be connected to the internet in order to play AC 2 because of a concerted effort by Ubisoft, that's when I decided they can suck it and they'll never get another penny off me. I travel alot and am often in places where internet is impossible (on buses, crap hotels, etc.) and that's when I'll game most. Now their DRM won't let me? That's punishing paying customers in the extreme. I'm not advocating piracy, but in this case I almost feel like getting my own tracker just so I can host Ubisoft games and cracks ratio free. I understand the occasional 'phone-home' check, but there is almost no user who can say that their internet connection is always 100% bulletproof and are always connectable. It's absolutely unreasonable for Ubisoft to demand that their games maintain an always-on connection, especially for games that don't typically require one, ie. single player games, etc. I hope Ubisoft lose asssloads of money because of this ridiculous, abusive, and very short-sighted tactic. They are literally crapping where they eat. See you next tuesday, Ubisoft!

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As much as it doesn't justify the act of attacking Ubisoft's website, they must have known what was coming to them. Some gamers feel frustrated because they have been awaiting AC2 for so long and will finally be put off by the ridiculous anti-pirating scheme. And seriously, do they think that by delaying the appearance of a crack, they'll increase sales? Enough to compensate for all those NOT buying the game because of that scheme? I'd like to see their numbers, I really do. :rofl:

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All that doesn't change the fact that bigger games have sold perfectly fine with pretty much 0 DRM (BC2, ME2, DA:O, Fallout 3 etc) making any sort of reason they have for this kind of "protection" pointless. If you make a good game people will buy it. Ubisoft apparently hasn't learned that lesson yet, as far as the drm is concerned.. they should take notes.

I completely agree with you, I was just answering your question as to what happens when the servers are shut down for good.

Either way you look at it, AC2 will always need an internet connection in some form or another. You will either need an internet connection to play the game, or you will need one to download the patch that removes the online activation.

When I read that you have to constantly be connected to the internet in order to play AC 2 because of a concerted effort by Ubisoft, that's when I decided they can suck it and they'll never get another penny off me. I travel alot and am often in places where internet is impossible (on buses, crap hotels, etc.) and that's when I'll game most. Now their DRM won't let me? That's punishing paying customers in the extreme. I'm not advocating piracy, but in this case I almost feel like getting my own tracker just so I can host Ubisoft games and cracks ratio free. I understand the occasional 'phone-home' check, but there is almost no user who can say that their internet connection is always 100% bulletproof and are always connectable. It's absolutely unreasonable for Ubisoft to demand that their games maintain an always-on connection, especially for games that don't typically require one, ie. single player games, etc. I hope Ubisoft lose asssloads of money because of this ridiculous, abusive, and very short-sighted tactic. They are literally crapping where they eat. See you next tuesday, Ubisoft!

I agree, I sent them a support ticket (not a hate email like many others probably have done) explaining my concerns with the DRM, and the fact that I will not buy AC2 or SC:C or any other single-player game that has an online requirement.

In short they responded with: (actually, full response, it was only 3 sentences :P )

We appreciate you voicing your concerns about our new Online Services Platform that will be offered in “name of the game”. We feel strongly that the platform will offer benefits to the player, in form of services such as unlimited installs and that these services justify the permanent online requirement. We truly feel that the vast majority of gamers will have a smooth and easy experience with this platform.

So they feel that unlimited installs and other services they may offer is good enough to nullify the online requirement. Sorry, but I would rather be allowed 3 installs or something on a game that I am likely only going to install once or twice, but be able to contact the company if I need to install it more than 3 times, than be forced to be online throughout the duration of the time I wish to play the game.

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Dr_Asik, I totally agree. I would love to find out the non-spin facts on this, because if anyone thinks that it's not going to migrate to another publisher, they're mistaken. If Ubisoft attempt to spin this wretched DRM in a positive light, every publisher will be using it by the end of summer. Some reading this might not be interested in the games Ubisoft are releasing with this horrible form of DRM, but sooner or later a game will come and ou'll be without internet, for one reason or another, and your $60 piece of software is useless.

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Well, for me AC2 was a must buy until I heard about this. I was also interested in the new Splinter Cell game and Ruse, but not any more. Not while they have this drm attached to it to "enhance" my play. That's 3 games they won't be getting a penny on from me. It's not just Assassins Creed 2 that has this but a lot of their other big name games they'll be releasing within the next year.

Edit: Oh, it will probably also be in the Prince of Persia game. It's also in Silent Hunter 5 and I think it's also in the new Settlers game.

Found this..

By now everyone has heard that Ubisoft Entertainment will be using a new type of DRM for their games and now the publisher has confirmed which titles will already have the new protection scheme implemented: Splinter Cell: Conviction, Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic, Assassin's Creed 2, Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands, and the new Ghost Recon game. In order to be able to play these games on PC you'll need a permanent internet connection.

Ubisoft also added the following:

"It's hard for us to say, yes, from now until the day that we all die all of our games are going to include this but most will."
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Guess it was easier to hack their website than to crack teh game huh ?

+1 Battlefield Bad company 2 DRM is FTW.

Uhm, why is BC2 DRM FTW? It sucks almost as much. And quite frankly, I don't see the point in spending so much time on DRM for a multiplayer game such as BC 2. Sure there is a single player part, but to get most out of the game you play it online--and need a valid key, regardless of wich crappy DRM they put in!

BC2 single player was cracked several days before it's official release date. FTW!

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I don't know but I think in a way I'm MORE tempted to buy Splinter Cell for PC because of the Copy Protection. This sounds irrational but..... It seems they are really going on a limb here and putting their own cash and resources to make their games available to PC users. There aren't many PC games left. IMO, Splinter Cell is made for Mouse and Keyboard.

- I'd still support them since they are one of the few Canadian gaming companies left (EA well..... I don't know what they are anymore).

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Uhm, why is BC2 DRM FTW? It sucks almost as much. And quite frankly, I don't see the point in spending so much time on DRM for a multiplayer game such as BC 2. Sure there is a single player part, but to get most out of the game you play it online--and need a valid key, regardless of wich crappy DRM they put in!

BC2 single player was cracked several days before it's official release date. FTW!

Why does it suck? If you want it to it will just perform a dvd check. Or if you don't like that you can activate it online and never have to worry about it again unless you plan on installing the game on more than 10 computers. Seems fine to me. Either way notice the part where you don't have to have an internet connection to even play the single player part of the game?

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"We appreciate you voicing your concerns about our new Online Services Platform that will be offered in ?name of the game?. We feel strongly that the platform will offer benefits to the player, in form of services such as unlimited installs and that these services justify the permanent online requirement. We truly feel that the vast majority of gamers will have a smooth and easy experience with this platform."

Benefits? Gimme' a friggin' break. Right now I'm using a Charter Comm. cable modem that resets every 5 minutes. Nobody from that useless excuse for "tech support" at Charter can figure what they've done wrong. This happens to the cable boxes as well. Now can you imagine having to re-start your single-player game every 5 minutes just because of that? I don't what kind of ivory towers with insane fiber connections the myopic sleazoids at Ubisoft live in, but in the real world it isn't always possible or even reasonable to assume you'll always be connectable. That sucks for MMORPGs but it's certainly true for people like me. I just wanna' play a single player FPS where I don't have to be connected constantly. Any game that requires this from me will not see any business period.

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I don't know but I think in a way I'm MORE tempted to buy Splinter Cell for PC because of the Copy Protection. This sounds irrational but..... It seems they are really going on a limb here and putting their own cash and resources to make their games available to PC users. There aren't many PC games left. IMO, Splinter Cell is made for Mouse and Keyboard.

- I'd still support them since they are one of the few Canadian gaming companies left (EA well..... I don't know what they are anymore).

Serious? The next thing you'll be seeing to go along with this is that you have to pay a fee for bandwidth to their drm server. No monthly fee, no drm check, no game playing. To go along with the already increased price they'll now be charging (starting with AC2). I'm not saying this will happen but the way game publishers are these days I wouldn't put it beyond them.

If that's okay with you..well...I don't know what to say to that.

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