Growled Member Posted March 18, 2010 Member Share Posted March 18, 2010 With all the revelations about Move lately especially the fact that it does have lag, this really amuses me to see something like this. It is amusing, isn't it? I bet Nintendo is sitting back laughing at this commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 PS Move looks better than the Wii (although very very similar) and both much better than Natal. I prefer controllers over air. However if Mystic is right about lag that'll be a real problem. Instant response is required for any of these to be beneficial. I do still prefer just a regular controller with analog sticks. As for the commercials themselves. Love em. Hilarious, I really liked this one. I'm not looking to get educated by them so I don't take them seriously. Just entertaining. Btw, whats with all the dildo talk. What are you guys 12? It's a Wiimote with a glowing ball on top. Hardly anything like a dildo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Btw, whats with all the dildo talk. What are you guys 12? It's a Wiimote with a glowing ball on top. Hardly anything like a dildo. It's an elite dildo, complete with balls!!! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 The Sony controller looks an absolute joke, and yeh Sony you mock the Wii but the Wii is still far ahead of the PS3 in install base, I really dought there is enough time in this generation for Sony to do anything about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonite Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 commercial just seems a bit immature. I predict that the Move will fail. It isn't a default peripheral, so there's no guarantee to developers that there will be motion technology, like the Wii. It's got lag, which the Wiimote does not. It looks ridiculous, the Wiimote and Natal do not. It's got HD, which the Wii doesn't, but Natal does. It seems to be inserting itself into a saturated market. It also costs nearly $100. This isn't going to make a Wii owner switch. The Wii was bought in droves because it was functional and cheap, the powerhouse hardcore games on the expensive console with an optional peripheral isn't going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoyoS Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Commercial is more cocky then Apple and that's saying something! To early imo as well, it's an unproven device (lags like hell according to the videos) and knowing Sony they will find some way to screw it up ($100 price tag is a start). Nintendo have the right to brag, Sony on the other hand should be playing it safe until people actually adopt their motion controller which I don't think will happen as its just way too similar to the Wii, I mean seriously the average consumer doesn't give a **** about the Z axis so in their mind buying a PS3, Move and then a bunch of games to do what they see as the same thing the Wii does is never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Yes, because playing with dildos is so much fun! It's not? But, in the next few months + e3, hopefully we see more NATAL. I know soniqstylz had a hands on demo with move / was at GDC, so ill believe him about move. But he didnt say anything about NATAL so i dont know if it was announced or it was still not demo'able. Either way, we all have to wait and see. It was not. I was hoping for it, but all MS had to show (playable) was some Live stuff, basically Bioshock 2 and Battlefield Bad Company 2, on both PC and XBox. They were hosting a full Developer Day, as well as several sessions on WinPhone 7, but they weren't actually on the show floor, just in the business section and the career pavillion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaT40 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Hahaha........this commercial was hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentGray Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Sony, where they can copy everything everyone else does, and still be elitist about it... genius... Gotta give them marketing points, but to imply they're doing something new is ridiculous, seriously. Nevermind that they're expecting people to shell out close to $600 for this, all said and done, + game costs. I don't know what they were thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Why bother playing it with Move? Watch video at about 3 minutes. I don't see the fun in using motion controls on a game like this if it isn't that different than you just sitting there using a controller like normal. Why bother making it harder for yourself? Zipper themselves have said they're having balancing issues because players testing using the Move are pwning DS3 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neyht Member Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 The move will costs about $99.00 retail which is reasonalbe considering it is the full controller. I think the wimotes cost $40 for the main controller $20 for the nunchuck attachment and $10 for the wimotion plus. There's probably an additional $10 in there somewhere. The motion controller is completely wireless, and both parts would have that motion plus capability...that's not even possible with the wii setup. The only negative I see is the reported lag, which may be because it's an unfinished product. So the ad in my opinion was funny and (semi)true, not so much arrogance really. I like their new ads...so much better than squirrels in trees playing with their nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Nevermind that they're expecting people to shell out close to $600 for this, all said and done, + game costs. :rolleyes: While I agree that $100 is expensive for such a peripheral, the console will continue to work fine with just the standard controllers. This isn't their attempt to change the PS3 into the Wii, it's their attempt to attract customers who enjoy the style of Wii games towards the PS3. Hence, I doubt that there will be people spending $600 to buy the PS3 for the sole reason of PS Move. People who own a PS3, but not a Wii, may buy Move because they like the idea of "Wii-style" games. People who own a PS3 and a Wii may buy Move because they want HD/better-looking "Wii-style" games. People without a PS3 or Wii may be swayed towards the PS3 because it has far more functions (unsure whether "it does everything" though). And so on... Finally, why would you even bother mentioning "+ game costs"? Really? Buying games for a games console? How absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 Sony, where they can copy everything everyone else does, and still be elitist about it... genius... They just as bad as everyone else, aren't they? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 With all the revelations about Move lately especially the fact that it does have lag, this really amuses me to see something like this. https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884768-playstation-move-controller-lag-detected-analyzed/ the site's tireless statisticians calculated an actual lag (including that of the display) of 113ms -- closer to 10 6.78 frames if a game is running at 60fps.....with GTA IV measured at 166ms -- almost 50 percent higher than seen by the Move. Less lag than you think. Also, great ad, saw it yesterday and loved it. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 :rolleyes: While I agree that $100 is expensive for such a peripheral, the console will continue to work fine with just the standard controllers. This isn't their attempt to change the PS3 into the Wii, it's their attempt to attract customers who enjoy the style of Wii games towards the PS3. Hence, I doubt that there will be people spending $600 to buy the PS3 for the sole reason of PS Move. People who own a PS3, but not a Wii, may buy Move because they like the idea of "Wii-style" games. People who own a PS3 and a Wii may buy Move because they want HD/better-looking "Wii-style" games. People without a PS3 or Wii may be swayed towards the PS3 because it has far more functions (unsure whether "it does everything" though). And so on... Finally, why would you even bother mentioning "+ game costs"? Really? Buying games for a games console? How absurd. The problem with pricing is that you'll notice in more than a few of those videos, you need 2 3iimotes to play (such as the archer vid, or in the sword fighting game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikh Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I'm guessing you haven't seen any footage of SOCOM 4 using the Move? It looks like the most promising title from the launch games by far. I'm sure plenty of others can see themselves playing it too. Why bother playing it with Move? Watch video at about 3 minutes. I don't see the fun in using motion controls on a game like this if it isn't that different than you just sitting there using a controller like normal. Why bother making it harder for yourself? ^ What he said. I have seen it, but I dont realistically see anyone using the move to play socom 4 fully / online. Ive seen the frag throwing over the head/ taking cover / etc. I will not play FPS games via motion sensor be it move/natal/wii. It's not? It was not. I was hoping for it, but all MS had to show (playable) was some Live stuff, basically Bioshock 2 and Battlefield Bad Company 2, on both PC and XBox. They were hosting a full Developer Day, as well as several sessions on WinPhone 7, but they weren't actually on the show floor, just in the business section and the career pavillion. Ohhh ok. I hope E3 is a better/bigger event for microsoft this summer then last summer. They have a lot to announce like Natal/Reach/etc. Also, i found out I could of gone to GDC through work, i just needed a "ok" and pay for my own ticket, but at a good price. BLAH. I also found out I can go to E3, so hopefully if I can save enough for a cheap hotel, i might end up at E3 for all the events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 The problem is that the Move while, yes, it's better than Natal as a replacement for the controller, but in those games, the controller is still far superior. As a controller for new unique move/natal centered games, Natal is a far better solution. Now imagine something like Soul Claibur 5, with both Natal and Move support and cross platform play. the PS3 players would stand there waving their sword, while the Natal player would jump around him, dodging striking, evading, having full control of the players skeleton as a mirror of his own. The best the Move player would be able to do would be some pre programmed evasion moves with the buttons... The point of neither controller isn't to be a replacement for the controller, and at that, Move fails. Wile Natal not requiring a controller or anything can be picked up by anyone, or as te lame weed guy on speed at Mix eventually managed to say the point of his presentation was, Natural user interfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 while the Natal player would jump around him, dodging striking, evading, having full control of the players skeleton as a mirror of his own. The best the Move player would be able to do would be some pre programmed evasion moves with the buttons... No. Just no. I'm not diving about like a pillock to play a game! I'd rather use Playstation Move. When I've came in from work and the gym the last thing I want to do is dance about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red. Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Zipper themselves have said they're having balancing issues because players testing using the Move are pwning DS3 players. Really? That's surprising to me. I would have thought it would have taken a while to adapt to the new controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 No. Just no. I'm not diving about like a pillock to play a game! I'd rather use Playstation Move. When I've came in from work and the gym the last thing I want to do is dance about. But that's the point isn't it. for those that don't care about the motion controllers, the regular controller is a far superior controller. but if a game is made for motion controllers, then MS' system is a far better one. Move is just en extension of the sixaxis, trying to make a regular controller with motion detection. At best it's Wii HD. While Natal actually makes use of it. and as in my example would for that type of game be far superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 but if a game is made for motion controllers, then MS' system is a far better one. Move is just en extension of the sixaxis, trying to make a regular controller with motion detection. At best it's Wii HD. While Natal actually makes use of it. and as in my example would for that type of game be far superior. Again no, it wouldn't- I don't want to be dancing about like a pillock making pew pew noises without any tactile feedback. I'd rather have tentative, careful steps in to the unknown than diving head first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Again no, it wouldn't- I don't want to be dancing about like a pillock making pew pew noises without any tactile feedback. I'd rather have tentative, careful steps in to the unknown than diving head first. And that's a game where you'd rather use an actual controller than wave a dildo around like a pillock as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Eye Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Not sure it's the best idea to be throwing stones in that glass house Sony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red. Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 And that's a game where you'd rather use an actual controller than wave a dildo around like a pillock as well. Well, according to soniqstylz's post on the other page, a normal controller may not necessarily be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 And that's a game where you'd rather use an actual controller than wave a dildo around like a pillock as well. Oh you! Dildo! Haha! Haven't heard that before! It's funny because it's true! /s I'd take the move controller over a pad any day. Clunky POS. Provided it wasn't out on the PC that is (hi Uncharted 2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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