EZ Tutty Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 ok i am going to get a 4port broadband router next week, but i want to know how does it share the connection equally. i will have a 1mb connection shared between 2 computers, i currently have a 300k connection on 1 computer. with my currnt setup i often get problems with the internet say if i was running emule in the background (only downloading at about 15kb/s) then when i go on a website it's compleatly screwed and takes agerz. will i have the same troubles say if i was running emule on one PC and browsing the net on the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 yes you will. and problem is not becuase you share internet, but becuase your emule is taking up all your available upload bandwidth, which cuases webpage request traffic to be queued up with emule upload traffic. if you cap your emule 2-3k/s below your maximum upload capacity you won't have this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Tutty Posted June 28, 2003 Author Share Posted June 28, 2003 i do cap emules upload and download bandwidth, but still have the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 make sure u get a linksys router connect the pc's to a switch then u se the uplink port to connect the switch to the router :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Tutty Posted June 28, 2003 Author Share Posted June 28, 2003 i am getting a linksys router with a built in 4 port switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
variant Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 Cap your uploads ;) or at least see which program(s) are uploading as this will slow your download connection down. http://www.netlimiter.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 i am getting a linksys router with a built in 4 port switch Relly? What model? Maybe you mean 4 port hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Tutty Posted June 28, 2003 Author Share Posted June 28, 2003 http://www.linksys.com/products/product.as...scid=29&prid=20 deffinetly 4 port switch :) whats the diff between a switch and a hub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShVen Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 (edited) i have a 4-port Netgear RT314 Router.... great thing routers share the internet-bandwidth as needed... and as available everyone get equal... ive looked for a router which you can limit bandwidth on specific IP's... lol... have to share with my sister and she often forgets to turn off kazaa well... HOW exaxtly it does it, cant tell ya... its called: NAT - Network Address Translation, which if im correct lets your LAN seem as 1 "ONE" computer/IP/MAC address, but you still have a fully functional network also... when getting a router, get used to not being able to done certain things... because of the NAT, you will have to forward certain ports that you want to be open to the internet to your computers IP example: you want to open a Quake 3 server... you would have to forward port-range 27959 - 27961 (new quake3 port: 27960) to your network-ip in order for your server to be seen and accessable from the internet, however, the server will not be available over the network, as the specific forwarded port will now only be visable to the internet.... youll notice and learn how/when to use as you need... Edited June 28, 2003 by ShVen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShVen Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 http://www.linksys.com/products/product.as...scid=29&prid=20deffinetly 4 port switch :) whats the diff between a switch and a hub? ...you wont really notice a difference between 100mbit switches & hubs... its when you have a 10mbit hub, and theres lots of traffic it starts to stutter... basicly a switch can transfer data faster from one port to another while there is also other traffic to and from other ports imagen it like this: the switch has every port connected to every other port, while the hub has all ports on one rail... someone correct me if im wrong... :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness2k Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 I think the difference between a switch and a hub is that a switch has seperate network bandwidth for each node, where the hub has one lot of bandwidth for all connected nodes. For home users I see no point in paying a little more for a switch seeing as it only speeds up concurrent transfers of very large files... maybe if you have computers transferring mass amounts of data constantly it would help... but i've got a 8-port hub and it works fine for me. Switches reduce packet collision but increase latency. http://www.macrollc.com/FAQs/FAQ-SwitchVsHub.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syscrash2k Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 i have a 4-port Netgear RT314 Router.... great thingrouters share the internet-bandwidth as needed... and as available everyone get equal... ive looked for a router which you can limit bandwidth on specific IP's... lol... have to share with my sister and she often forgets to turn off kazaa well... HOW exaxtly it does it, cant tell ya... its called: NAT - Network Address Translation, which if im correct lets your LAN seem as 1 "ONE" computer/IP/MAC address, but you still have a fully functional network also... when getting a router, get used to not being able to done certain things... because of the NAT, you will have to forward certain ports that you want to be open to the internet to your computers IP example: you want to open a Quake 3 server... you would have to forward port-range 27959 - 27961 (new quake3 port: 27960) to your network-ip in order for your server to be seen and accessable from the internet, however, the server will not be available over the network, as the specific forwarded port will now only be visable to the internet.... youll notice and learn how/when to use as you need... I have an RT314 too, it r0x0rz ;) . A switch is better than a hub, because a hub only splits the bandwidth. That means, on a 10mbit lan, with a 10 port hub, each pc would get only 1 mbit transfer. A switch does not do that, it just lets everyone loose . :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Tutty Posted June 28, 2003 Author Share Posted June 28, 2003 i have found out about port forwarding ect, and it looks simple enough, the router i am gettin is uPnP so i shouldn'd have to mess about with ports for MSN :) a switch prolly isn't worth the extra cash for the home user, but for ?50 inc vat and p&p from amazon ain't bad:DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness2k Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 Well I have 512kb ADSL, and I have 100mbit ethernet cards, cables and hub. Noones loosing out because noone can get more than 512kbits out of the Internet anyway. I don't transfer gigs of data between computers constantly, and hubs have less latency than a switch. I'll stick with a hub for now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShVen Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 darkness2k..... i have FastPath turned on at my ISP for my 768/128 aDSL over my RT314 Router... and i ping around 7-30ms in any game so i doubt the slightly higher internal latency of a switch is a downside hmm, whats that uPNP?? MSN and a lot of programs use random-ports, and thats the problem, you cant allways forward ALL ports to your computer which would basicly bypass all the built-in security features how does the program know what computer YOUR computer has open and which is going to be accesses via the internet? could be some kind of port-scanning proggie built into the router... cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShVen Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 ...oh and by the way my home network: my comp -> 100mbit HUB -> 100mbit Switched Router -> DSL-Modem -> Spliter -> wall a 7ms ping to an internet game server is pretty good... id say :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Tutty Posted June 28, 2003 Author Share Posted June 28, 2003 hmm, whats that uPNP?? MSN and a lot of programs use random-ports, and thats the problem, you cant allways forward ALL ports to your computer which would basicly bypass all the built-in security features uPnP is a microsoft feature that allows MSN messenger to work properly with out forwarding ports for it, i think it only works on Me, 2000, and XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShVen Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 oooohhhh nice :D is it a windows service?? if yes, then i have it turned off.... hmm, sucks then again... i use Trillian and forward ports i need, hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Tutty Posted June 28, 2003 Author Share Posted June 28, 2003 yup it's a windows service, it's switched on in WinXP but you have to manually enable it in SP1, but i'm not sure about win2000 and Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness2k Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 ...oh and by the way my home network:my comp -> 100mbit HUB -> 100mbit Switched Router -> DSL-Modem -> Spliter -> wall a 7ms ping to an internet game server is pretty good... id say :D Yes that is good..... I'm used to ping rates of between 100-250 depending on network conditions etc occaisionally I get the odd game thats at 53 or so... but thats usually if noone else is in the game lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 oooohhhh nice :Dis it a windows service?? if yes, then i have it turned off.... hmm, sucks then again... i use Trillian and forward ports i need, hehe http://www.upnp.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness2k Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 Don't forget http://grc.com/UnPnP/UnPnP.htm lol :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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