sime27 Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 is it possible to have 2 pc'c or pc and laptop connected to the same adsl line (modem) useing lan with no router?? like i can with my 56k connection or will i deffo need a router to make this possible?? :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sime27 Posted June 29, 2003 Author Share Posted June 29, 2003 bumbity bumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Blue01 Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 There's an option for this in the XP networking wizard. Maybe that's it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phased Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 uhh sounds like u need a router, cause thats what its all about. dunno what im talking about actually, just ignore me and ill learn to shut up soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMeK Veteran Posted June 29, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 29, 2003 yes it is possible you can do it in much the same way as you share you 56k connection adsl is basicaly a realy realy really fast 56k connection it still uses dialup to connect, but it does it all digitally if your using 2k or xp you can just click properties on the connection and check "share this connection" :D bumping is not cool :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sime27 Posted June 29, 2003 Author Share Posted June 29, 2003 sos about bumbing man i know its not cool but i get my hardware 2moro (adsl modem) so i need to know i have everything to get both pc and laptop on net so are you sure its just like sharein my 56k connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMeK Veteran Posted June 29, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 29, 2003 yep same as :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokkolm Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 yes it is possibleyou can do it in much the same way as you share you 56k connection adsl is basicaly a realy realy really fast 56k connection it still uses dialup to connect, but it does it all digitally if your using 2k or xp you can just click properties on the connection and check "share this connection" :D bumping is not cool :no: This won't work because you'd have to have two different lines coming out of the DSL modem, one going to each computer. That isn't going to work because they have to have separate IP's. Additionally this is probably a violation of the terms of service of the ISP, just get a router and you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sime27 Posted June 29, 2003 Author Share Posted June 29, 2003 im gettiing a little confussed can it be done like my 56k or not using network internet connection shareing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liar2 Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 you can network using ICS, but it'd probably just be a lot easier to use a router. or at least a hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerch Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 So tell me exactly what hardware and os, you have and i will try to help. The more detail the better. Specs, os version, adsl equipment and supplier and anything else you think relavent. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syscrash2k Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 You can do it using a crossover cable. One PC will need to NIC cards. A crossover cable is just like a regular cat5 cable, except that some wires are crossed over. You connect one end into your pc, and the other end into your laptop. Then, right click on your connection (in network connections) and click properties. There will be an option to share the connection in there somewhere :p . Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sime27 Posted June 30, 2003 Author Share Posted June 30, 2003 more details both pc and laptop have xp pro installed both have networking cards installed connected to each other useing crossover cable both are networked already and share my 56k connection my adsl modem when it comes will be a sagem 800 so will they share my adsl connection without any other h/ware??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sime27 Posted June 30, 2003 Author Share Posted June 30, 2003 So tell me exactly what hardware and os, you have and i will try to help.The more detail the better. Specs, os version, adsl equipment and supplier and anything else you think relavent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmoove Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Ok so you have 2 pc's (whatever it is doesn't matter), both with network cards and connected with a cross-link. Now you just pop in your ADSL modem in the pc and you just share your connection with ICS that comes with XP. This is the easiest way and works fine. I do recommend to get a decent software router though. Like Kerio WinRoute for example. Those are much easier to configure if you run in to problems with port-forwarding. So to me it looks you already got everything you need (except for the optional software router). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted June 30, 2003 MVC Share Posted June 30, 2003 You will need a second nic in the one connected to the modem - unless its a USB modem. But I would HIGHLY suggest you get yourself a router. They can be found for $50 US, this is the easy way to do it - and much better way to do it. Your one computer will not have to be ON for your other computer to get to internet. And you will now be behind a router - which is safer computing. Anyone that can afford to pay for highspeed access, can afford to buy a router. Most of them come with atleast a 4port switch built in, so this gives you some room to grow your home network as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liar2 Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 With your current setup, you will need a second NIC. That's pretty much all the other hardware you'll need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sime27 Posted July 1, 2003 Author Share Posted July 1, 2003 my adsl modem will be usb connection why would i be better off with a router? what would i gain with 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted July 1, 2003 MVC Share Posted July 1, 2003 my adsl modem will be usb connectionwhy would i be better off with a router? what would i gain with 1? See my previous post - where I mention 3 bells to having a router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liar2 Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 i personally like having a router. it adds extra security, ease of port forwarding, and the ability to expand your network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerch Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 You have everything that you already need. But as the guys have said, it would add extra security to your system if you were to get a router. that would be one of the major benifits. There are other reasons, like upgradability (adding more machines), and less software problems. For example the router would share out the d/l and u/l speeds alot better, then trying it do it with software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whipper25 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 i would invest in a router..using ics will work, but the computer connected to the modem will act as a gateway and will have to be on for the other computer to connect to the net..and if i'm not mistaken, only 1 computer will be able to go online at one time..both computers can't go online at the same time... whereas, if you had a router you would be able to go on at the same time, and none of the computer would have to be on for the other to go online...the NAT box will act as a firewall (but if you're really paranoid, get firewall software)... i have an adsl connection and i'm networking 2 other pc's through a linksys 4-port router and it works flawlessy...i would invest in a router Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sime27 Posted July 2, 2003 Author Share Posted July 2, 2003 why i not be able to use both the computers on the net at the same time??? ..and if i'm not mistaken, only 1 computer will be able to go online at one time..both computers can't go online at the same time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerch Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 This is partly true. the main machine that is connected to the adsl modem will act as a gateway, but both machines will be able to access the net at the same time. Although the gateway machine will be alot quicker at accessing the net and for downloads. Any further questions you have top_man9 try getting me on msn/yahoo or emailing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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