peacemf Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 i've always had a windows pc, buti was consider a mac. However now that windows 7 is out, and its pretty darn good, is there really any reason to jump onto the mac bandwagon? I do a lot of Office work (mostly word processing), watching movies, internet, some music etc. I dont play games on computers, as i prefer consoles :) Does zune work on mac? Thanks in advance :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinSam Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 i've always had a windows pc, buti was consider a mac. However now that windows 7 is out, and its pretty darn good, is there really any reason to jump onto the mac bandwagon? I do a lot of Office work (mostly word processing), watching movies, internet, some music etc. I dont play games on computers, as i prefer consoles :) Does zune work on mac? Thanks in advance :) Microsoft does not officially support the Zune on the Mac. I personally see no reason for you to make the switch to mac. Besides you'd be saving yourself a hell lot by buying a Windows 7 PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-berlin.org Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Buy a Mac and dual-boot it with both Mac OS X and Windows 7 if you like, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDT Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Buy a Mac and dual-boot it with both Mac OS X and Windows 7 if you like, no problem. Win 7 runs like crap in bootcamp, compared to running natively. So go for the W7 laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Windows laptop I'll get the job done for much less, plus you'll have to go to extra effort to get your Zune working with your computer if you go for Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Win 7 runs like crap in bootcamp, compared to running natively. So go for the W7 laptop. Huh? Windows 7 is running natively via BootCamp. Works great on my MBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDT Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Huh? Windows 7 is running natively via BootCamp. Works great on my MBP. Really? How about those nice apple drivers for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Really? How about those nice apple drivers for it? I don't have any problems apart from the trackpad being slightly erratic. But then I use a mouse anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ferson Veteran Posted April 3, 2010 Veteran Share Posted April 3, 2010 I'd go for the Windows laptop. If you're spending similar amounts to a MacBook you could afford an Alienware M15 or whatever their gaming laptop is called. Also, if you mainly do what you said above, then I would say there is no need for you to switch to Macintosh OS X. However, if you really just want OS X, then that could be reason enough to pick the MacBook Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnporter29 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) Get a Windows 7 Laptop. Half price or less than a Mac if you want Windows 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightEco Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 If you don't have a specific reason to jump to Mac, just go for the Windows PC. You'll save a ton of money that you can use to buy some new console games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloaked Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 I am in the same dilemna, but probably not for the same reasons you are. I have been to best buy, fry's, computer central, and micro computer, and all windows laptop are ugly plastic pieces of crap. Sure they have better video cards, faster processors(at least until apple updates their line) but for 99 percent of consumer laptops its shiny plastic here, shiny plastic there.They look like they're built to fall apart after 1 year. Glossy fugly displays. The only windows 7 laptop i'm considering is the sony vaio z. But that mother is expensive. And even though I dont completely agree with the design of the MBP, the solid aluminum block design improves the look and feel of durability. Mac os x? i'm no big fan. But i see plenty of flaws in windows too so right now its going to be whos got the best hardware and looks. The vaio z wins so far in my eyes, but i'm hoping to see some competition when apple releases new notebooks and hopefully new graphics cards and increased resolution(things i find lacking right now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olaf Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Apple makes operating systems that work smoothly and look very, very nice. The same is basically true of the hardware - it can be trusted to work, and it certainly wins on looks. That said, unless you've got money burning a hole in your wallet/bank account or you really, really want a Mac, a PC is probably a solid choice. It pains me to say it, but I can get everything done pretty much just as effectively on a PC that literally costs half as much, if that. I want to love Macs - I love the aesthetics and looks, even the performance, but the cost is too great for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-berlin.org Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Win 7 runs like crap in bootcamp, compared to running natively. So go for the W7 laptop. Have you ever seen a real Mac or you just like spamming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Win 7 runs like crap in bootcamp, compared to running natively. So go for the W7 laptop. What are you on about? Windows runs natively on a Mac. Bootcamp is _just_ partition software. Like Nortons Partition Magic or Disk Utility in Windows. The EFI firmware that the motherboards in Mac's run includes BIOS support. Just like Motherboards you could buy yourself to run Windows on which can come with EFI + BIOS or just BIOS. In-fact my friend has an Acer notebook that has EFI on it. Exactly the same way as a Mac does it. Really? How about those nice apple drivers for it? You mean drivers just like _every_ computer supplier provides for their hardware? When I run the Apple driver package it installs Realtek drivers (for Sound or Networking I forget which), NVIDIA Graphics Drivers, Broadcom WiFi drivers etc. They are distributing drivers just like any OEM does. You don't even need to use the ones Apple provide if you don't want to. You can just go to the manufacturer websites yourself and install those drivers. They work fine (Which is what I did before Apple supported Win 7 for Bootcamp use). And please TDT, don't spread misinformation. ccuk 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 I would say... If you enjoy tinkering and customization, get the PC. If you just want something that works, get the Mac. Another thing to consider given how you described your usage is that multitasking on the Mac is light years ahead of the PC thanks to Expos?. Personally, I was a hardcore PC user for years. Then I got a job in an office that used Macs. It felt almost unreal how much faster the Mac let me get things done. I got my own MBP and my ThinkPad has pretty much been collecting dust since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windows For Life Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Win 7 runs like crap in bootcamp, compared to running natively. So go for the W7 laptop. I agree. Windows 7 runs A LOT better running natively on a new PC than running it on a mac. Those PC drivers make a huge difference. Just look at Win7 benchmarks on PCs and Macs. Also, because with PCs you don't get ripped off on hardware, a PC's CPU/RAM/overall system power makes Windows 7 FLY in comparison to an overpriced mac. If you need Zune syncing with PC, that's just a no brainer for me..go for a PC! Also, keep in mind, if any one tells you that you can run Windows on a Mac...what they don't EMPHASIZE is that you're gonna have to go out and BUY a new copy of Windows which further adds to the cost of a Mac. Whereas on a PC, Windows comes preinstalled for free...not to mention if you do your research before/after you buy, you could mod the PC to run OS X (hackintosh) pretty easily. From my experience, just for the Windows performance advantages alone (Windows on PC vs Windows on Mac), I'd recommend a windows PC. Snow leopard and overall Apple's OS is VERY good and I do love it...but my problem with macs is that Apple charges TOO much for what they deliver. Frankly, in my opinion, OS X to me isn't worth that ripoff. Using a Mac isn't something I prefer to using Windows, especially now that Win7 is out. Personally, I use a Mac as a secondary PC...only for Mac "exclusive" apps. If all you need to do is surf the web and do basic-modern computing, I don't see a need to switch to the Mac bandwagon. If you're in the market with A LOT of cash in your pocket, going for a Mac just might work for you..but you'll have to buy windows too if you wanna use it on your mac. If you want to buy a computer which'll be outdated within a couple years pretty much forcing you to buy a new Mac cuz Apple's newest OS doesn't support your computer...then go for a mac. Just as an example, if you wanna download and use Firefox on a Mac, the minimum OS requirement is Mac OS 10.4 (released in 2005) whereas if you wanna install Firefox 3.6 on a PC the minimum system requirement is Windows 2000 (released almost 10 years ago)..that's just one example but you can see, with a PC, I can still use Firefox even if I had a computer from 10 years ago. Whereas with a Mac, because Apple keeps updating their OS every 2 years and expects you to upgrade, the developers kill support for older versions of the OS either you HAVE to buy the new OS to keep up or get a new Mac every few years..otherwise, I can't use Firefox. Almost everyone I know with a Mac replaces their mac within 3 years. If you can afford to do that, by all means go for a Mac. I just think the PC lifestyle gives you more bang for the buck. Personally, I'd rather replace a $300 netbook three times by buying it again if it broke down on me than replacing my $999 or higher macbook if my warranty expired. Macs work perfectly out of the box, but as time goes on and Apple releases a new version of the OS, in many cases you have to buy a newer update of an app you already own because the developer made it "compatible" with the new OS X release. Also keep in mind that according to the recent survey, most people who have a mac ALSO have a PC running Windows only. OS X has a tiny market share and that market share is even smaller if you consider how many of those mac users are running OS X in a hackintosh configuration on PCs and netbooks. The more people that use windows = the more people developers can reach with their software = the more Apps on the PC platform (of course the quality may vary by developer). Many developers are nice enough to make multi-platform apps: those that work with both PC and mac (e.g firefox), but in most cases that's not the case. Also there's a LOT less high quality freeware available for the mac as compared to PCs. Many people say oh Macs are awesome cuz for example if I install a program it doesn't jam and is easy to uninstall by draggin to the trash without leaving garbage files behind on the system. That's just a myth. If mac apps didn't jam, Apple wouldn't build a "FORCE QUIT" command in the Apple menu (similar to CTRL-ALT-DEL) and if uninstalling didn't leave crap behind (similar to windows), then you wouldn't see OS X apps that clean junk files (there are a lot of them out there..search youtube). So, I know I might get a lot of hate comments, but I just wanted you to make an informed decision. Though my comment probably has some PC - love bias, I just wanted to share my opinion with you as a pc AND mac user to help you make an informed decision. All in all, though some might recommend Mac, I'm perfectly happy with my PC and now with the strong Windows7, I have no problem recommending a Windows PC. Best of luck to you..and all you Mac-exclusive-anti-Windows users, I'm not a hater :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted April 3, 2010 MVC Share Posted April 3, 2010 Mac's are nice but would never shell out that much money for a laptop, i'm too cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Wind Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 xMP44x +1 for saying Macintosh OS X. Um... I use a Macintosh but its all I have ever really used at home. But Windows 7 really is a good as everyone says it is. Zunes don't work on Macintosh sadly. If I were you I would probably get what I know, a Windows PC. But if you do have the money... getting a MBP and dual booting would work. That way you can use Windows 7 if you don't like Mac OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_Guy Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Have you ever seen a real Mac or you just like spamming? No need to get so, like, defensive. It's true that Macs run Windows 7 on BootCamp like crap. I ran it on an iMac and yes, it does work, but the drivers leave a lot to be desired. Running Windows 7 on PC hardware is so much better than using Apple's "barely working" drivers. Not that you can blame Apple for not making Windows 7 drivers a priority. Of course you can also run Windows 7 in Parallels but then you have to buy a computer with enough power to run Windows on top of OS X so why go to all the extra expense? Not to mention that you are paying for two operating systems and Parallels. There's just no way to justify the extra cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 I like how people say Macs run Windows 7 like crap because of Apple's drivers. If you don't like Apple's drivers, why not just download the needed drivers from the manufactures websites then? All the components inside an Intel-based Mac are generally standard PC components. Yes I agree, generally Macs cost a bit more than a PC. But a ?399 PC laptop is a crock of ****. You have to spend at least ?1500 for a decent PC notebook than isn't built out of cheap plastic, with ****y memory, a tiny HDD and ships with Windows 7 Basic or Home Premium instead of Ultimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Wind Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 So true ^ And Apple sells MBP for that price now too. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdave Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 is there really any reason to jump onto the mac bandwagon No, just go with Windows 7 lappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaffra Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 there are quite a few other things to consider, looks/build quality, battery life and the software you will be using/needing. If a macbook is in your budget why not. There might even be some deals right now since the new models are around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Really? How about those nice apple drivers for it? Those so called apple drivers aren't apple drivers they are the drivers from each company that makes the hardware, apple just make it into a easy to install program LOL, A macbook is just a PC with EFI, your an idiot if you think different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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