+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted April 10, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted April 10, 2010 Crysis 2 writer and novelist Richard Morgan has said that Modern Warfare 2 was an "immense disappointment" to him, with an implausible story. Read the rest here - http://www.vg247.com...rysis-2-writer/ Chrome and the Neowin RTE don't like VG247. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 For me, the Call of Duty series has hit the same status as Battlefield; you play it for the multiplayer and the single-player is just a 'bonus' so to speak. So story wise, I don't care. Not that the Crysis story is any better ... But it was a disappointment and I'm glad developers and people in the gaming community alike are voicing their opinions, developers need to know that ruining a perfectly good game by adding more frustration and random factors isn't how you should develop and evolve your games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Please don't use stupid color codings that makes your test unreadable for people using other neowin themes. For me, the Call of Duty series has hit the same status as Battlefield; you play it for the multiplayer and the single-player is just a 'bonus' so to speak. So story wise, I don't care. Not that the Crysis story is any better ... But it was a disappointment and I'm glad developers and people in the gaming community alike are voicing their opinions, developers need to know that ruining a perfectly good game by adding more frustration and random factors isn't how you should develop and evolve your games. BF started as a Mutliplayer only game :p ALso the difference in the stories is that Crysis was a overt eh top SciFi action story. Which it was a fairly decent on of. MW is a modern Want to be military sim. (even if they ditched important elements such as peaking). You can't be a serious military sim with a story taken form an average John Woo movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Please don't use stupid color codings that makes your test unreadable for people using other neowin themes. Colour coding, where? Looks normal to me BF started as a Mutliplayer only game :p I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted April 10, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted April 10, 2010 Please don't use stupid color codings that makes your test unreadable for people using other neowin themes. Not my problem Neowin is broke on other themes, and it's not me it's the RTE when it copies content from certain sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Please don't use stupid color codings that makes your test unreadable for people using other neowin themes. BF started as a Mutliplayer only game :p ALso the difference in the stories is that Crysis was a overt eh top SciFi action story. Which it was a fairly decent on of. MW is a modern Want to be military sim. (even if they ditched important elements such as peaking). You can't be a serious military sim with a story taken form an average John Woo movie. I have only played Bad Company 1, Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 2 Modern Combat and they all had single player. MW nor Battlefield are anything close to a military sim. They are arcadey shooters. The closest we have to "sims" would be Operation Flashpoint, America's Army and ARMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LingeringSoul Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 According to the VG247 article, Richard Morgan is the writer for Crysis 2, but he didn't write Crysis 1. So it looks like all of those "but Crysis had crap writing!" arguments are moot. That said, he's going to look pretty bad if Crysis 2 ends up with even worse writing than MW2 :). He sounds pretty excited about the project though. Nice to hear him give UC2 some love as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I agree. MW2 had a rubbish story and it just felt like random levels. MW1 had a much better story and it felt more together and fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted April 10, 2010 Global Moderator Share Posted April 10, 2010 Thank god some others agree. No wonder the developers got fired, that game was crap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropcircles Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I guess its what your looking for in a FPS game. Its like when they dumped Stargate Atlantis for Stargate Universe - YUCK ! Soap operaish crap. I don't want it. I want challenging missions. If I want a great story line I'll go rent a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted April 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted April 10, 2010 I guess its what your looking for in a FPS game. Its like when they dumped Stargate Atlantis for Stargate Universe - YUCK ! Soap operaish crap. I don't want it. I want challenging missions. If I want a great story line I'll go rent a movie. Bolded out what I have always said. Or, even crazier to some, I will actually read a book! When I play a game, I just want to shoot stuff and do it in a fun way and perhaps a way I have not done it in yet. With that said, yeah, MW2 is one of the worst offenders at bad stories in games, but honestly I think all games have pretty bad stories when you compare them to books and movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted April 10, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted April 10, 2010 Books and films still remain a more mature medium than gaming, but that doesn't mean developers can't try, and it's very clear they didn't give a **** about MW2's story. If developers don't try then gaming will always be vastly more immature than books and movies, instead of getting nearer. That being said, FPS games are one of the worst offenders for terrible stories. LingeringSoul 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted April 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted April 10, 2010 I'll admit, the story in Modern Warfare 2 was pretty implausible. It was much better in Modern Warfare 1. As for Crysis/Crysis: Warhead, I'd say it was alright because it was a sci-fi story unlike MW1/MW2's fictional depiction of the near-future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedanden Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Who cares about one random persons opinion? Crysis had a MEH story and MEH multiplayer... so who is he to talk? But thats just my opinion, someone out there will disagree. People are either going to love something or hate it, in any situation. The single player was never the bread and butter of the game. When they announced MW2 they instantly started talking about multiplayer, because thats what keeps the game on the top 10 xbox live charts. The single player is there for non xbox live users, along with the spec ops... may not be FF7 in terms of epic story, but that was not the intent. If IW dedicated all time to make just a single player game only, it would be epic. They had to get the game out in a set time, to make the company money... and they succeeded bigtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted April 10, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted April 10, 2010 Who cares about one random persons opinion? Crysis had a MEH story and MEH multiplayer... so who is he to talk? But thats just my opinion, someone out there will disagree. People are either going to love something or hate it, in any situation. The single player was never the bread and butter of the game. When they announced MW2 they instantly started talking about multiplayer, because thats what keeps the game on the top 10 xbox live charts. The single player is there for non xbox live users, along with the spec ops... may not be FF7 in terms of epic story, but that was not the intent. If IW dedicated all time to make just a single player game only, it would be epic. They had to get the game out in a set time, to make the company money... and they succeeded bigtime. Couple of posts above you, post 7 to be specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LingeringSoul Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 If developers don't try then gaming will always be vastly more immature than books and movies, instead of getting nearer. Agreed 100%. I don't expect games to ever surpass or even match books and movies in terms of storyline, just because of the balancing act that developers have to perform with storyline and gameplay (as much as I love story, I still need something to shoot at regular intervals), but that doesn't mean that they can't try. They've certainly made great strides in recent years (Bioshock, Mass Effect, Heavy Rain, etc..). In all fairness to MW though, they were never going for a great storyline anyways. It's the video game equivalent of a Michael Bay movie. If Richard Morgan was looking for a thought provoking analysis on United States foreign policy, then he has nobody to blame but himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I thought it was common knowledge that MW2 was designed as random setpieces sewn together and tried to make a story around it? That's why some of the levels ended up as Spec Ops, because they didn't fit the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 What I think is interesting is that they released two popular shooters (MW2 and BFBC2) recently, both with less than stellar campaigns and so short. Granted, they are known at MP games, but they are not $60 MP games. They really should put a little more effort in the story. That coming from a guy who is a 95% multiplayer kinda guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 I'm in agreement myself. MW1 was far better than MW2 - storyline wise, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted April 11, 2010 MVC Share Posted April 11, 2010 I think I might be the only one who actually enjoyed MW2's single player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 What I think is interesting is that they released two popular shooters (MW2 and BFBC2) recently, both with less than stellar campaigns and so short. Granted, they are known at MP games, but they are not $60 MP games. They really should put a little more effort in the story. For BF it's a step forward, it's the second SP they've ever made. For MW2 it was a game drop kicked out the door in time to keep up with the yearly release, the only reason it's awful is because of the time table they had to adhere to. Two completely different reasons for a weak campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Who cares about one random persons opinion? Crysis had a MEH story and MEH multiplayer... so who is he to talk? well, he's writing for Crysis 2, which he aims to make it better than Crysis. That's the whole point he tried to convey, the sequel should improve on its predecessor, not going for the worse. I guess he just wants to write Crysis 2 a better story than Crysis, unlike MW2 which has a far worse story than MW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 I guess he just wants to write Crysis 2 a better story than Crysis, unlike MW2 which has a far worse story than MW. Improving on Crysis' Story ain't exactly going to be a challenge either :rofl: Fantastic game but the story sucked ass, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 For BF it's a step forward, it's the second SP they've ever made. You are kidding, right?The campaign in BFBC2 was not only shorter than the first BC, but it was less game play and more cutscenes, had less humor and was not good at all. In fact, when looking at the latest Battlefield releases and their SP, Battlefield 2 Modern Combat > BC1 > BC2. Sethos 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 You are kidding, right?The campaign in BFBC2 was not only shorter than the first BC, but it was less game play and more cutscenes, had less humor and was not good at all. In fact, when looking at the latest Battlefield releases and their SP, Battlefield 2 Modern Combat > BC1 > BC2. Have to agree completely there, the campaign in BC2 was a massive step back in terms of the concept they had going from BC1. They tried to make a more serious game by removing the humour aspect and my god, what a terrible decision. Every game today tries to be some cheesy Hollywood flick and BC1 actually managed to try something new; poke fun at it. Then, they take the concept and throw it out the window in favour of ... well, cheesy Hollywood flick action. It was cringe-worthy watching characters try to sound emotional all of a sudden, the pathetic cut-scenes where the idea behind the scene was okay but it looked like a complete joke, point in case; The helicopter that got shot down, it looked completely cheesy and they even added the "Noooo!" sequence - I literally felt embarrassed on behalf of DICE. At least the MW2 campaign managed to create some Hollywood scenes that gave me goosebumps, people also whine about it being "All over the place"; yes, the sort of happens when you keep switching between characters! The MW2 campaign was a slight step forward in my book, compared to the old campaign and the BC2 campaign was a massive step back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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