1337ish Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 What are you going on about? The "stealth updates" are for things like the BBC iPlayer that result in an icon appearing if your IP is in the UK, and such things as the PSN store and other applications or services they provide. They aren't updating the Firmware behind your back, stop making things up because you and the people who wrote this article are pulling things out of thin air. Without limitation, services may include the provision of the latest update or download of new release that may include security patches, new technology or revised settings and features which may prevent access to unauthorized or pirated content, or use of unauthorized hardware or software in connection with the PS3? system. I suppose that "Without limitation" is them actually saying "only the iplayer blah blah icon junk will update". The point is that they can "Without limitation" update anything they damn well please. Are you trying to say "they could but wont"? then who is making it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Updates only take most people around 5 mins, so I doubt they'll ever bother to do that. The turning off the system was added for people with little time so they could start updating then leave their PS3. But yes it would be a lot better to let people download in the background, however about 5-10 mins into your game you'd be prompted to install and unless you're playing a PSN title you can't really do much in any game in 5-10 mins once you've booted it up and loaded your save game file. I was just suggesting it as a way to allow "People who complain about updates being too large" to download in the background without affecting whether or not the user agrees to the EULA, which was your first reason as to why they wouldn't do it. My point is, if they allow updates to download then site ready for the user to read the EULA and install them, then it would stop anyone from complaining the update is too large and you would still give them a chance to read the EULA before accepting the install. I didn't say it would force you out of game when it finished, IMO, it would wait until you exit the game (if you exit the game to go back to the main menu) or until you next start the system, which would get around your second argument that you cant get much done in that time). Who says they would have to force users to update....download the update in the background, then, when they are not busy playing a game or watching a movie or whatever, let them know the update is done downloading and ask them to start the update process. It could very easily be done in a way that the update is downloaded by the time you are ready to install it without interrupting the user until they are at a point that the system is essentially idle already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 But yes it would be a lot better to let people download in the background Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Nuff said. But that would actually be sensible and awesome, thus you will never see Sony do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undu Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Microsoft and Nintendo have these kind of clauses in their EULAs, in case anyone was wondering: Microsoft may ... © upgrade, modify, withdraw, suspend, or discontinue any functionality or feature of the Service, any game or other content available or accessible through the Service, or any hardware or software associated with the Service or with an original Xbox or Xbox 360 console, or personal computer, from time to time without notice, which may involve the automatic download of related software directly to your original Xbox, Xbox 360 console, or personal computer, including software that prevents you from accessing the Service, playing pirated games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices. Source: http://www.xbox.com/en-us/legal/livetou.htm (point 16)You understand that the Wii Console specifications and the Wii Network Service are constantly evolving and that we may update or change your Wii Console or the Wii Network Service in whole or in part, without notice to you. Such updates may be required for you to play new Wii games or continue to access the Wii Network Service. We may also upgrade, change, or terminate the Content or game software or may discontinue offering Products without notice to you.Source: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/privacyEULA.jsp (chapter III) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted April 24, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted April 24, 2010 Microsoft and Nintendo have these kind of clauses in their EULAs, in case anyone was wondering: Source: http://www.xbox.com/...gal/livetou.htm (point 16) Source: http://www.nintendo....privacyEULA.jsp (chapter III) It's all in relation to the service part of the consoles, Live/PSN/Nintendo Online (or w/e it's called). Everyone except the usual suspects know this, or even they do, but are just looking to make asshats of themselves in here as per. Whoever wrote the article is a dingleberry as well for having no experience with consoles and trying to write an article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdog666al Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I'm still using the firmware with OtherOS and I'm not connecting my PS3 to the internet until CFW has been released. I haven't actually played on it all year so that's not going to be difficult. I basically bought the unit second hand in the hope of CFW, I only have one game. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Microsoft and Nintendo have these kind of clauses in their EULAs, in case anyone was wondering: It's only nefarious if Sony does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 It's only nefarious if Sony does it. Works both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Yeah I'm going to have to go ahead and file this under 'not an issue'. :laugh: -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted April 24, 2010 Veteran Share Posted April 24, 2010 [/i][/font]I suppose that "Without limitation" is them actually saying "only the iplayer blah blah icon junk will update". The point is that they can "Without limitation" update anything they damn well please. Are you trying to say "they could but wont"? then who is making it up. I'm not making anything up, not only were you not reading it and assuming the worst, as proven by Undu, other console manufacturers have the same Claus in their EULA. But I'm sure your right, not only are Sony going to update everything without your permission, but Microsoft and Nintendo are going to do it as well, because all these companies are inherently evil, I also hear they eat kittens. Yeah I'm going to have to go ahead and file this under 'not an issue'. :laugh: -Spenser That quote needs to be on an image. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts