Detri Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Jeff Burton. 2nd tonight at the Pepsi 400. He's back on track, baby. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgumbel Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Junior! GO #8!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowbladex Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Jeff Gordon. 2003 WC Champ! nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aem4162 Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 i'm not into it at all but mom says someone named michael walltrip is her fave :huh: :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightryderrwn Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Dale JR! Or, anybody else ahead of #24! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detri Posted July 6, 2003 Author Share Posted July 6, 2003 anybody else ahead of #24! I like that. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted July 6, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 6, 2003 dale jr just cuz i was such a huge dale sr fan. i got a shirt signed by him (Y) i was a little upset that steve park in the aol car didnt run better than he did lastnight... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antsy Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Any one who know what a corner is :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diata Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 i dont see how those guys stay entertained driving around in a big ass circle for a long while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. Frink Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 i dont see how those guys stay entertained driving around in a big ass circle for a long while do one of the richard petty driving experiences or equivilant and you'll know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted July 7, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2003 Jeff Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Matt Kenseth. My Uncle is his car cheif ;) (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danimal Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Junior! GO #8!!!! Junior is the man #8 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjbeckwith Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Toss up between Gordon and Dale Jr. It kills me to see how many people dislike Gordon just because he has accomplished so much in such a short period of time. I here that Gordon drives dirty and complains all of the time, but you can say the same thing about several other drivers on the circuit. Whats obvious is that #24 can back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detri Posted July 8, 2003 Author Share Posted July 8, 2003 I have nothing against Jeff Gordon. He just belongs in Formula 1, not Winston (NEXTEL) Cup. Next week = Jeff Burton's first win at Chicagoland, just watch :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjbeckwith Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I would love to see Gordon try the F1 circuit. Unfortunately I feel he would get schooled. Look at all of the drivers that have made the switch to F1 that have failed miserabely. I thought Montoya would actually have a chance when he tried...but has never lived up to the expectations. Another problem with F1 is that the playing field is not level like the NASCAR circuit. NASCAR is won by the crews and the drivers, the car itself is more or less an afterthought. Ferarri practically purchases championships, and everyone else fighting for 2nd. Shumaker is an incredible driver but if he was in another vehicle I don't think he would dominate nearly like he does currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eth3l Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I dont like any NASCAR drivers, except Cole Trickle cjbeckwith, at first wanted to like your comments, as I live near Big Bend and 141 . . . in anyevent I would love to see Gordon try the F1 circuit. Unfortunately I feel he would get schooled. He would get schooled like nothing else, agreed, but it would be very amusing! Look at all of the drivers hat have made the switch to F1 that have failed miserabely. I thought Montoya would actually have a chance when he tried...but has never lived up to the expectations. Are you kidding? The boy rocks. He is the heir apprent to the throne of Schumi! He may not be high in the points standings, via many poor performances by the BMW powerplant, but he is definitely the #2 driver and has been since he made his big pass on Schumi in Brazil a few years back Another problem with F1 is that the playing field is not level like the NASCAR circuit. NASCAR is won by the crews and the drivers, the car itself is more or less an afterthought. Good. F1 is much more challenging. The circuits change requiring different racing strategies that extend past driving in left hand circle, the crew the driver, need to work in unison. You want the best drivers in the world, check out Workd Rally. Ferarri practically purchases championships, and everyone else fighting for 2nd. Shumaker is an incredible driver but if he was in another vehicle I don't think he would dominate nearly like he does currently. Well they used to, this year Renault is in the hunt. i dont see how those guys stay entertained driving around in a big ass circle for a long while >>Dude, I dont see how the viewers stay entertained watching them driving around in a big ass circle for a long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjbeckwith Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Nice to see another Missouri poster! Don't get me wrong, I think Montoya is incredibly talanted, I just had real hopes that he would walk in and kick everyones @$$. As you said, F1 is far more competitive and you are looking at the best of the best, so my hopes were a little extreme. F1 circuit would be more entertaining in my eyes if it were up to the drivers, not how much more money was poured into one car vs another. Just my personal opinion. I think that all of the drivers in F1 are incredibly talanted, some just were not lucky enough to catch on with a manufacturer with deep pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eth3l Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 F1 circuit would be more entertaining in my eyes if it were up to the drivers, not how much more money was poured into one car vs another. Yes and no. While it is true that a company like Ferrari can and does develop the most technically proficient cars, there are only a handful of people in the world qualified to drive them. Drivers make a huge difference in the car. Case in point: JPM is an aggressive driver driver that takes corners *very* hard, and those individual driving skills make his car handle differently than anyone else who would drive that car, and little things like that differentate his driving from other drivers inthe same vehicle, like his teammate Ralf S. Under the idea you proposed that money makes a championship, Barrichello should be in a virtual tie with Schumi. Why isnt Barrichello a 5 time winner of the world championship, or why doesnt he even come close. His "car" (engine and transmission) are exactly the same. Because while Barrichello is a fantastic and patient driver, he lacks the skills that Schumi has. Look at the McLaren car, on paper it should kick ass, yet the only guy that can really do anything with those tools is Raikkonen. In F1 the driver makes all the difference. When your vehicle can accelerate from a standstill to 100 mph in 3 seconds, it takes a very quick, focused, athletic person to control it. True enough, money in F1 brings better technology (i.e. Ferrari's gearbox that can make a gear shift with the touch of a button in .03 seconds at 16,000 RPM and 180 mph while braking) it takes a pilot to control the car. IMHO, anyone can drive a NASCAR. That is why NASCAR is so overwhelmingly popular, its an everyman's sport. F1 is the premier autoracing circuit. I still think the fans of NASCAR, if they want to see aggressive driving should watch Rally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjbeckwith Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Rally is totally insane! Watching those guys fly through the woods at high rates of speed is crazy! I would really like to know how often they feel like they are in control and how often they are "along for the ride" so to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Jeff Gordon, and anyone who pushes Tony Stewart into the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Jeff Gordon. 2003 WC Champ! nuff said. agreed :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGM316 Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I have nothing against Jeff Gordon. He just belongs in Formula 1, not Winston (NEXTEL) Cup.Next week = Jeff Burton's first win at Chicagoland, just watch :pinch: Why belong in F1? I'm mainly a F1 fan, some of the greatest drivers in that, like the Schumacher brothers, they make many a good driver look very silly! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGM316 Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 F1 circuit would be more entertaining in my eyes if it were up to the drivers, not how much more money was poured into one car vs another. Just my personal opinion. I think that all of the drivers in F1 are incredibly talanted, some just were not lucky enough to catch on with a manufacturer with deep pockets. I think it is upto the drivers, some of them at least, fair enough most of them have a car that makes it highly unlikely they win! But, look at Ferrari, Schumacher consitantly beats Barichello! And thats what F1 is, a team sport not just a driver sport, you can get into the teams and the technology, just another thing to effect the racing. Personal opinion whether or not you like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun-tzu Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Jeff Gordon #24 and Kurt Busch #97 are my personal favs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts