soniqstylz Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Xbox 360's Game on Demand service provides an extremely convenient way for gamers to download old Xbox games and full Xbox 360 games. The idea is brilliant, since gamers can choose to forgo buying game discs all together. Sony, on the other hand, has been doing well with PlayStation Network, but rumor has it that they are going to take it a step further and compete with Games on Demand by adding more downloadable titles.Since developers have been backing away from producing games for the PS2, a lot of questions have been raised regarding the fate of the console's enormous software library. The popular rumor at the moment is that some of the most successful and popular titles (Greatest Hits, maybe?) will be making their way to PSN as downloadable titles, similar to how PS1 games have slowly been trickling onto the Network. This rumor has been made in conjunction with another popular rumor about PSN's Premium service. Could it be possible that PS2 games will be the hook that grabs gamers to pay for PSN? It's all up in the air, but one thing is for certain. The era of the PS2 is slowly coming to an end. And unfortunately, the only way to play Ps2 games on a PS3 is if you were lucky enough to purchase the early versions of the console (20GB, 60GB, and 80GB). If Sony does choose to have PS2 titles on PSN (Premium or not), it seems like the best fate for some of the best games ever made (GTA: Vice City, anyone?), but we'll have to wait for E3 in order to confirm Sony's decision to do this. http://consolepress.com/main/2010/06/05/rumor-ps2-may-be-psn-premiums-trump-card/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted June 5, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 5, 2010 Here comes the backwards compatibility rumours again... I can't see it ending well if they start charging for the ability to play PS2 games in the Premium model. They certainly better not remove the feature from the OS either & force you to buy them on PSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 (edited) that'll be horse **** if slim owners have to PAY to play ps2 games while the older models can play them for free... especially when 2/3 models mentioned use software emulation. I still haven't played snake eater :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted June 5, 2010 Author Share Posted June 5, 2010 I think it has more to do with having access to download the titles from the Store, with emulation built in to the title (ala God of War Collection), possibly remastered, possibly with trophy support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted June 5, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 5, 2010 I think it has more to do with having access to download the titles from the Store, with emulation built in to the title (ala God of War Collection), possibly remastered, possibly with trophy support. But that's what Games on Demand does already. You can buy Halo CE from XBL with the "emulated code" to run it on the 360. Or you can buy a retail copy & play it because the dashboard lets you download the "emulated code" update. All for the low price of free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisty Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 guys can you tell what's the difference between playing ps2 games using a component cable on the ps2 and playing them on the ps3? i mean what difference does it make which console it is on? the only way i'd pay for ps2 games on the psn network is if they are re-mastered in HD like the GOW collection :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin in a box Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 guys can you tell what's the difference between playing ps2 games using a component cable on the ps2 and playing them on the ps3? i mean what difference does it make which console it is on? the only way i'd pay for ps2 games on the psn network is if they are re-mastered in HD like the GOW collection :shifty: Some people want to use PS3 controllers. Some people don't want to have to buy component cables. Some people want to be able to play all their games on one console. Some people don't have a PS2 anymore. There's a lot of reasons why people want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Helix Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 But that's what Games on Demand does already. You can buy Halo CE from XBL with the "emulated code" to run it on the 360. Or you can buy a retail copy & play it because the dashboard lets you download the "emulated code" update. All for the low price of free. + the cost of a silver or gold XBL account lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00000 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 guys can you tell what's the difference between playing ps2 games using a component cable on the ps2 and playing them on the ps3? i mean what difference does it make which console it is on? the only way i'd pay for ps2 games on the psn network is if they are re-mastered in HD like the GOW collection :shifty: Not everyone with a PS3 had a PS2 so they would have to spend $100 on a previous generation system just to play the games they missed out on. But I agree that the HD remasters are a lot more enticing then just playing PS2 games upscaled. Of course there is also significant investment by the developer/publisher to do the remastering where the PS2 re-releases are relatively cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 + the cost of a silver or gold XBL account lol Cost of a silver account? You mean, like, nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpyreanUK Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 guys can you tell what's the difference between playing ps2 games using a component cable on the ps2 and playing them on the ps3? i mean what difference does it make which console it is on? the only way i'd pay for ps2 games on the psn network is if they are re-mastered in HD like the GOW collection :shifty: For me personally PS2 backwards compatibility would be a great addition as it would mean I could play extremely rare games such as Ico and Shadow of Colossus that are currently prohibitively expensive on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 And unfortunately, the only way to play Ps2 games on a PS3 is if you were lucky enough to purchase the early versions of the console didnt sony already take out a patent about emulating a ps2 on a ps3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Lyons10 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 But that's what Games on Demand does already. You can buy Halo CE from XBL with the "emulated code" to run it on the 360. Or you can buy a retail copy & play it because the dashboard lets you download the "emulated code" update. All for the low price of free. Exactly. I can't imagine Playstation owners reacting well to having to pay for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x9248 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 The sources sources "source" (heh) is that it will be revealed at E3 along with PSN Premium, doesn't mean they are a part of each other. We'll just have to wait and see. 1) The price of games must be right. Used PS2 games are dirt cheap and you get a box and manual etc. 2) The selection of games better be better than the PS1 selection. They call them PS1 Classics but that's not really the case for 90% of the games released on PSN. Edit: 3) Being able to download imported JPN games would really kickass. It's unlikely but would be nice :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillAholic Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 that'll be horse **** if slim owners have to PAY to play ps2 games while the older models can play them for free... especially when 2/3 models mentioned use software emulation. It wasn't full software emulation. Just half. I forget if it was the CPU or GPU that was emulated, but it wasn't both. guys can you tell what's the difference between playing ps2 games using a component cable on the ps2 and playing them on the ps3? i mean what difference does it make which console it is on? the only way i'd pay for ps2 games on the psn network is if they are re-mastered in HD like the GOW collection :shifty: It actually does. A lot? Not really, but I did find it to be looking better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Some people want to use PS3 controllers. Some people don't want to have to buy component cables. Some people want to be able to play all their games on one console. Some people don't have a PS2 anymore. There's a lot of reasons why people want it. There are 150 million PS2's in homes. + the cost of a silver or gold XBL account lol You don't need a Gold account, lol. And silver is free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J.P Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 It wasn't full software emulation. Just half. I forget if it was the CPU or GPU that was emulated, but it wasn't both. The PAL launch models had the CPU emulated. The NTSC launch had both physical chips (CPU & GPU). I think there was a NTSC 80gb model that emulated both, but game support was rather poor on it (confirmation needed :p) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted June 6, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted June 6, 2010 Id pay for the ability to be able to play my old PS2 cds on my PS3, BUT I wouldn't pay to download games I already own to play on my PS3. Other games I don't already own id be more then happy to spend $10 or so to download and play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 For the price I paid for my ps3 (original launch) i damn well want that backwards compatibility for free. Being able to acquire old ps2 games via download would be nice and convenient but give me the BC first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhav Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 The PAL launch models had the CPU emulated. The NTSC launch had both physical chips (CPU & GPU). I think there was a NTSC 80gb model that emulated both, but game support was rather poor on it (confirmation needed :p) I'm fairly sure they've never emulated both. Only the CPU as you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillAholic Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 The PAL launch models had the CPU emulated. The NTSC launch had both physical chips (CPU & GPU). I think there was a NTSC 80gb model that emulated both, but game support was rather poor on it (confirmation needed :p) I'm fairly sure they've never emulated both. Only the CPU as you mentioned. Right. The Launch units in the US basically had a ps2 inside. Shortly after they started emulating the Emotion Engine (CPU), and then dropped it entirely. They never emulated the Graphics Synthesizer. Via wikipedia: New PlayStation 3 systems no longer support PS2 playback (whether through use of the Emotion Engine & Graphics Synthesizer hardware or through the Graphics Synthesizer and software emulation of the Emotion Engine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_hardware I could see myself picking up a few of the rarer PS2 titles, but I probably won't want to pay $15-$20 Bucks for them otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J.P Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 I stand corrected then. I want PS2 B/C back. I hate using my PS2, even though I got wireless controllers for it, the disc drive is extremely loud (louder then my PC with its Watercooling set-up, which is pretty loud itself -_-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 that'll be horse **** if slim owners have to PAY to play ps2 games while the older models can play them for free... especially when 2/3 models mentioned use software emulation. I still haven't played snake eater :( Why? the b/c on the PS3 Phat is limited to a handful of models and compatibility varies greatly depending what kind of b/c your PS3 Phat has, PS3 Slim users aren't missing much. To be honest I don't care about b/c as I still have my PS2 for PS2 games (which I hardly play anyway) so setting it up for a quick trip down memory lane isn't so much of a big deal for me. However, if you often like to play your older PS2 titles then I can understand the convenience of being able to do so on the PS3. Snake Eater rocked :) fantastic game. I got it lying around somewhere, need to setup my PS2 again so I can play it :) (I have a PS3 Phat but it has no b/c at all). EDIT: PS3 Phat owners still have to pay to play PS2 games too. Unless you already own the title you'll still need to purchase a copy, either digital or on disc. If you own a large collection of PS2 titles and bought the PS3 Slim, well it's tough luck unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1406 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 guys can you tell what's the difference between playing ps2 games using a component cable on the ps2 and playing them on the ps3? i mean what difference does it make which console it is on? the only way i'd pay for ps2 games on the psn network is if they are re-mastered in HD like the GOW collection :shifty: Jaggies! Even in the early days I saw comparison pictures of PS2 games running on PS3 with and without smoothing on, and they looked a lot better with smoothing on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I dont understand what this means, does it mean you will get access to all you can eat PS2 titles if you pay for premium? Or does it just mean that if you pay for premium you get access to PS2 backwards compatibility and then you have to pay per game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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