Ayepecks Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 :rofl: Doli 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Neowinian Subscriber² Posted June 16, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted June 16, 2010 Microsoft was the best in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Sony > MS > Nintendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreKe Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I watched Sony's. What a waste of time. They came across as massive douchebags, constantly bragging about their "momentum" and "leading innovation". Christ. The Wii is outselling the 360 and PS3 combined, and Sony has the nerve to brag about it? They constantly made pathetic little jabs at Nintendo in particular. "Our motion tech is better than the motion tech of any other console on the market" - which is basically Nintendo. And they kept blathering on about the casual vs. hardcore gaming crap. Snooze fest. With insanely annoying crap at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I watched Sony's. What a waste of time. They came across as massive douchebags, constantly bragging about their "momentum" and "leading innovation". Christ. The Wii is outselling the 360 and PS3 combined, and Sony has the nerve to brag about it? They constantly made pathetic little jabs at Nintendo in particular. "Our motion tech is better than the motion tech of any other console on the market" - which is basically Nintendo. And they kept blathering on about the casual vs. hardcore gaming crap. Snooze fest. With insanely annoying crap at times. Actually, most of the jabs from Sony were aimed at Microsoft. Kevin Butler even led with jokes about the Microsoft Kinect even (deservedly so, IMO, cause the event was silly). Sony always has press conferences that drag on too long where they brag about their stuff, no matter what. Just ignore that BS and look at what they present in terms of games, though, and this year they did fairly decent at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreKe Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I think Sony's conference can be summed up with something like this: "Blah blah blah, we're so ****ing awesome, and we're the leader at everything. Here's a montage of random and uninspiring games with a wannabe-cool soundtrack to show you just how ****ing awesome we are. Did we mention how ****ing awesome we are?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I think Sony's conference can be summed up with something like this: "Blah blah blah, we're so ****ing awesome, and we're the leader at everything. Here's a montage of random and uninspiring games with a wannabe-cool soundtrack to show you just how ****ing awesome we are. Did we mention how ****ing awesome we are?" The last two years, maybe, but this year they actually went away from that. Don't get me wrong, they still bragged and still had a few montages, but they did more demonstrations than I can remember them ever doing and had some good game announcements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Microsoft #1 - Kinect (Projet Natal) FTW!!! It's going to change video gaming BANK on it!!! Many hardcore gamers complained about it, DON'T get it! It's for casual gamers, for your girlfriends, wives, sisters, for your daughters, sons, Moms, dads, grandparents. And, to me, the more gamers a platform has, the better future it will have. Nintendo realized it first, and it paid off really well. So, MS and Sony are now doing it too. The difference is, MS has something entirely differenent from what Nintendo and Sony are doing - NO controllers! It's the Minority Report technology! I think it's what casual gamers want instead.... using Controller is not for them. That little animal/Tiger game maybe TOO Cute and totally against your sarcastic, hate-cute adult nature, but kids will LOVE it. Why can't there be games like these that appeal the kids? These hardcore gamers don't like the fact that these casual gamers are being appealed, really need to get a GRIP. The existence of Kinect does NOT mean there won't be old fashioned Hardcore games played with Controllers. And, What part of this do Hardcore gamers DON'T understand?!!!? Do you have proof that Nintendo and Sony have BETTER exclusive games than Xbox this year? And, Xbox 360 won't have any games besides from these Kinect stuff? Well, If not, SHUT UP!!! And, some fools say MS copy Wii? How did MS copy Wii? Did Wii have Controller-Free gameplay? This is NEW and cutting edge!!! Nintendo #2 - I HATED the stats, but they had games, and 3DS!!!!! Although I am not too intererested in Wii games, but OMG I WANT to get a 3DS! I know there is a reason I skipped Lite, DSI and DSI XL! :D Sony #3 - While Microsoft introduced NO controller gaming, Sony pretty much copies Wii for the Move. I may actually buy it when it comes out, but I think it's just like Wii controllers. It's got NOTHING on Kinect!!! Besides, it didn't announced anything else big, did they? If I don't remember, probably not. Maybe they showed more games, but are they EXCLUSIVE? Unless they clearly declared it's exclusive, then NO it's going to be on Xbox 360 too!!! Kinect/Microsoft> 3DS/Nintendo > Move/Playstation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Interesting to see how to see the votes fall on diffrent mediums/forums. This is the only forum which has voted MS so highly. Well, I would guess there are too many hardcore gamers (Not that many casual gamers) in other mediums. Which is not a surprise, because MOST of the gaming forums/medium are like hardcore gamers. Glad to see there are some casual gamers here. I just don't see how all the casual gamers won't like Kinect. Hardcore gamers complain too much about something that doesn't matter, need to get A LIFE!!! It's the reason why other people think gamers are sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoredBozirini Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Maybe they showed more games, but are they EXCLUSIVE? Unless they clearly declared it's exclusive, then NO it's going to be on Xbox 360 too!!! So when will Killzone 3, inFamous 2, Gran Turismo 5, SOCOM 4 and others be released for the X360? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 people here are ****ing nuts, ms had so little confidence in kinect they used prerecorded demo's and nintendo did the same old **** they have done forever recycle old crap on a new system and release v50000 of there portable neither is anything to get exited about, sony was pretty lackluster as well is there anything that hasnt got a number on the end or isnt either 3d or motion control (both of which can go suck a donkey dick) only good thing about kinect is it teaches little girls how to fondle peoples balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 people here are ****ing nuts, ms had so little confidence in kinect they used prerecorded demos and nintendo did the same old **** they have done forever recycle old crap on a new system and release v50000 of there portable neither is anything to get exited about, sony was pretty lackluster as well is there anything that hasnt got a number on the end or isnt either 3d or motion control (both of which can go suck a donkey dick) only good thing about kinect is it teaches little girls how to fondle peoples balls And what's your point? You don't think Kinect actually works? It's just a joke? I seriously don't think MS would sell a system that don't work as they said they would, that would kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 So when will Killzone 3, inFamous 2, Gran Turismo 5, SOCOM 4 and others be released for the X360? Likewise, Halo Reach, Gears Of War 3, Fable III, Star Wars w/ Kinect gameplay WON'T be on any systems other than Xbox 360! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 they sold xenon/zephyr's with there 60%+ failure rate. im not going as far as to say kinect doesnt work at all but its supposed to lauch in november and there must be problems with it if they have to use those terrible lag fest prerecorded demos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 they sold xenon/zephyr's with there 60%+ failure rate. im not going as far as to say kinect doesnt work at all but its supposed to lauch in november and there must be problems with it if they have to use those terrible lag fest prerecorded demos Game journalists previewing it didn't note the lag much in their articles, FYI. I'm sure it'll play a factor -- I probably won't play an FPS on it -- but not what you're making it out to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplySchizo Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 only good thing about kinect is it teaches little girls how to fondle peoples balls omfg rofl, so wrong for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreuger Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Sony win hands down for me just for the new Twisted Metal announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Yes, this Kinect has been tried out by a lot of Press people, and even Celebrities... pretty sure it WORKS really well. Some hardcore gamers accuse the celebrities are acting fake when they praise Kinect. *SIGH* How sad can someone/a gamer really be when he can't accept a lot casual gamers will LOVE Kinect, even when he himself don't? I mean, I love hardcore games, but I can NOT respect anyone just doesn't accept the truth (That casual gamers will LOVE this like crazy)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralDogma Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Well, I would guess there are too many hardcore gamers (Not that many casual gamers) in other mediums. Which is not a surprise, because MOST of the gaming forums/medium are like hardcore gamers. Glad to see there are some casual gamers here. I just don't see how all the casual gamers won't like Kinect. Hardcore gamers complain too much about something that doesn't matter, need to get A LIFE!!! It's the reason why other people think gamers are sad. I?ve never gotten the whole ?hardcore vs. casual? thing. There?s no definitive line when something is casual or hardcore. I?ve heard people draw the line at anything from minigames to game that don?t take 100 hours to play. To me it?s a straw man. That?s why I?ve never had a problem with casual games, because, I honestly have no clue what people refer to when they talk about them. However, I do have a problem with shovelware. Titles that were made on the cheap to capitalize on unsuspecting consumers. They might price themselves slightly cheaper in the hopes undercut better made games. It?s a horrible practice and I don?t know why anyone would defend it. It hurts consumers (their getting a worse product for their money) and it hurts developers who actually put effort into their games (their losing out on sales). And each console has its share of shovelware, but it certainly seems that motion control has become a magnet for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 And, what's wrong with a game that you play with a virtual baby Tiger for your little daughter to play, or a game you are running WITHOUT using controllers? How are these concept in anyway considered horrible? Not every game has to be like Call Of Duty, Halo or Fallout I don't understand the mentality of Hardcore gamers feel these concepts are horrible. I think it's more a SOCIAL problem they just don't like casual gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralDogma Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 And, what's wrong with a game that you play with a virtual baby Tiger for your little daughter to play, or a game you are running WITHOUT using controllers? How are these concept in anyway considered horrible? Not every game has to be like Call Of Duty, Halo or Fallout Because little effort was put into them. And their asking $60 for it and calling it a finished product. What was the cost of the art direction on that type game? Character creation and setting? The plot direction? The brainstorming behind the gameplay? If you removed motion control from some of the games at E3 this year, how does it fair? Is it nothing more than a glorified Flash game you can find free on the internet? Are they glorified tech demos; unfinished product? I don?t expect ?Call Of Duty, Halo or Fallout? (personally I?m not a fan of shooters). What about Viva Pi?ata, Katamari, Prototype, Darksiders? You might not like some or all of them, but I think we can agree, there was some effort and investment put into those products. Can you say the same of Kinectimals and Kinect Sports? Or EyePet and Sports Championships? Or Wii Party and EA Sports Active 2.0? Now I haven?t had time with these games so I can?t answer that. But, to me, they don?t look like games. They look like parts of video games. There are certainly ways to grow full games around these things. Maybe for something like Kinectimals or EyePet you have multiple pets, in an open world, and they interact with one another and things seen in the camera. That?s just one idea (admittably, probably not a good one), but I can?t believe that someone at Sony or Microsoft couldn?t have taken the time to make these game full featured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Because little effort was put into them. And their asking $60 for it and calling it a finished product. What was the cost of the art direction on that type game? Character creation and setting? The plot direction? The brainstorming behind the gameplay? If you removed motion control from some of the games at E3 this year, how does it fair? Is it nothing more than a glorified Flash game you can find free on the internet? Are they glorified tech demos; unfinished product? I don?t expect ?Call Of Duty, Halo or Fallout? (personally I?m not a fan of shooters). What about Viva Pi?ata, Katamari, Prototype, Darksiders? You might not like some or all of them, but I think we can agree, there was some effort and investment put into those products. Can you say the same of Kinectimals and Kinect Sports? Or EyePet and Sports Championships? Or Wii Party and EA Sports Active 2.0? Now I haven?t had time with these games so I can?t answer that. But, to me, they don?t look like games. They look like parts of video games. There are certainly ways to grow full games around these things. Maybe for something like Kinectimals or EyePet you have multiple pets, in an open world, and they interact with one another and things seen in the camera. That?s just one idea (admittably, probably not a good one), but I can?t believe that someone at Sony or Microsoft couldn?t have taken the time to make these game full featured. Totally agree with this statement save for the last part. The hardware itself isn't at fault, but the developers of the games. I think it won't be till later winter or spring that we will be seeing previews of the hardcore market games for Natal and Move. These are just launch titles meant to display the versatility of these peripherals (they aren't necessarily games, but tech demos). I have yet to see them price these games so I won't consider them to be seen as full games yet. They may very well be priced lower or be bundled together in a Kinect game pack for anywhere between $60-$100. We need to wait and see where these games are going to take Natal and Move before we can call either of them failures or gimmicks. And honestly, just cause Socom can be played with Move doesn't make it a hardcore Move title. The Move influence on the game is minimal and honestly looks like an afterthought. What devs need to realize is motion should be seen as a tool and/or a feature that can enhance the gaming experience. It isn't a medium to create a game around. Things like making conversations in something like Mass Effect or Heavy Rain actual conversations between player and characters. MMO's using the same idea to put the player's expression into the game and make the character model move and act as the player does. This is how motion should be integrated. Bring the player into the game, don't put the game in the player's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplySchizo Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 And honestly, just cause Socom can be played with Move doesn't make it a hardcore Move title. I disagree. Socom is a hardcore title, always has been. From ps2 to the psp. If they made it where one could play it with a Banjo, that would be one hell of a hardcore Banjo. Just cause it's Move enabled, doesn't mean the game is being gimped of play options, only that it's control scheme has been revamped. It's a hardcore title, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I disagree. Socom is a hardcore title, always has been. From ps2 to the psp. If they made it where one could play it with a Banjo, that would be one hell of a hardcore Banjo. Just cause it's Move enabled, doesn't mean the game is being gimped of play options, only that it's control scheme has been revamped. It's a hardcore title, man. And honestly, just cause Socom can be played with Move doesn't make it a hardcore Move title. Most of the Move games weren't very hardcore, they just looked less cartoony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplySchizo Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Most of the Move games weren't very hardcore, they just looked less cartoony. We're still talking about you saying Socom shouldn't be considered a hardcore Move title right? Sry if I wasn't clear before. Socom is a hardcore Move title. For the reasons already stated. Again, It's not being turned into Targeting on Rails soon as the Move controller is detected. It remains intact. Just new scheme. I didn't enjoy any of the Move titles shown actually. I thought Sorcery (i think it was called) looked really cheesy. A run and one swing gimmick. Not to mention awful targeting. I have no interest in Move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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