Piggy Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 In some cases - brentaal, tiagosilva29 - it accounted for the majority of the member's reputation points. Enough with naming names. Seriously. :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorwing Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 wow... I leave for lunch and so much has happened. Oh well.. we can always use "+1" then. (Y). :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted July 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2010 Restrict voting to Hardware Hangout, Internet, Network & Security, etc. You know, the good sub-forums. That would probably be better than what we had. I really don't think the rep points that I received from RWI should suggest that I am any better at diagnosing a router. The same goes for the polarized battles in Gamers Hangout. We might still have issues with Mac vs PC topics though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-berlin.org Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Come together! Disable voting, ban haters. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hani Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 In some cases - brentaal, tiagosilva29 - it accounted for the majority of the member's reputation points. so do these guys really matter much that the rep system got disabled for the whole forum? How about disabling repping members who have a warning, until their warning is back to 0%? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 but how much does this account for total rep points? I've never visited IRC & my posts are mostly troll free, yet I used to have 185 points. Yeah. I had like over 100 and most of those were from valued contributions in my opinion. Supporting members with their hardware or software issues, just giving good sound advice that others agreed was good and thus agreed instead of quoting what I had said and putting "+1" I don't really think the small amount of 'flash-mob reputation givers' are enough to warrant the systems deactivation. Neobond has mentioned they will come up with a better system but the only thing I can imagine is only allowing staff members to +1 or something along those lines. But hey I'll wait and see. If you guys intend to implement your own system perhaps take a look at the Reddit source code as they have algorithms built in to their voting system to weed out abuse. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted July 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2010 Enough with naming names. Seriously. :no: yeah I think naming them is a bit to much :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 10, 2010 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2010 Mr Vice, how did you ever survive before the rep system came about with IPB 3.0? (j/k) :p It will be BACK But different, and worthwhile. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted July 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hey, I skimmed through this and other threads but didn't see any answer... my rep on the posts have completely disappeared! I can't +1 or see other's rep on the posts... is that normal? Our attempt to right the sinking ship seems to have been unappreciated. Now the rep system has been disabled since there was no point in continuing the status quo. It wasn't working towards our goals of a more helpful more friendly community. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Mr Vice, how did youy ever survive before the rep system came about with 3.0? :p It will be BACK But different, and worthwhile. I survived by the cut of my jib, sofa pizzas and sellotape sandwiches. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted July 10, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted July 10, 2010 Enough with naming names. Seriously. :no: yeah I think naming them is a bit to much :unsure: There's a time and place for diplomacy. This thread isn't it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceminess Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Maybe its different because I have been a member here for so long. But I don't see a point in a rep system. I don't need one to tell me who makes quality posts. I already know if its a quality post by seeing who posted it. I already know most of the members here who make quality posts, and the others who I ignore. I don't think you can fix it. Because any rep system you put in place people will complain that it will be abused. The only thing I can think of is if you make the person add a comment to the rep, stating why the person was rep'd. Then these comments are checked by mods/staff. It might be a lot of work, but thats the only thing that I can see working, maybe someone else will have a better idea. Either way, doesn't matter to me, because I just ignored the rep points, and prolly will continue to do so, once they are reinstated. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-berlin.org Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Is it just me or the forum reloads much faster with the rep system disabled? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh400 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Is it just me or the forum reloads much faster with the rep system disabled? Just you mate, but I like your spin :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 10, 2010 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2010 Wouldn't it be cool to call out the troublemakers, so the members also knew what crap we have to deal with, but that will never happen lol. We'll just have to deal with certain members being vocal about staff all the time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Wouldn't it be cool to call out the troublemakers, so the members also knew what crap we have to deal with, but that will never happen lol. Should give all the trolls a troll badge under their name and a new user class that restricts them to 1 post every 5 minutes. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 In some cases - brentaal, tiagosilva29 - it accounted for the majority of the member's reputation points. I am unrestricted for less than a month and you're saying that I took part on the monopoly of points? I'm not that good in sex. Is it just me or the forum reloads much faster with the rep system disabled? It isn't just you. It seems to be browsing better. Less crashes in IE too (I'm at work). Kudos to the admins for this move! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Wouldn't it be cool to call out the troublemakers, so the members also knew what crap we have to deal with, but that will never happen lol. We'll just have to deal with certain members being vocal about staff all the time. Why not? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 10, 2010 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2010 Is it just me or the forum reloads much faster with the rep system disabled? I buy that! You can rep thank me for that (disabling the rep system). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted July 10, 2010 Developer Share Posted July 10, 2010 I think the main issue here is we have different views of what we want the 'rep' system to achieve. Staff imagine it being used as a system by which members can see which other members contribute well to the community, and add value with what they post. However, members have been using the rep system to indicate that they agree with an opinion that another member has expressed, which while it may be similar, is not quite the same as the goal that staff had intended with the system. We are currently looking at designing a new system, where reputation points would mainly be handed out to members automatically for certain things. A few ideas off the top of my head, that may or may not be included in the system: maintaining a 0 warn level whilst being active on the board, providing the 'solution' to a 'problem' posted by a member (akin to Experts Exchange) and so on. We have many more ideas, but I don't want to list a whole load of things that may not end up included in the final product. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted July 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2010 There's a time and place for diplomacy. This thread isn't it. yeah but still...if I went on to name everyone who I don't like on the forums in here it wouldn't be right...just my 2 cents Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 We are currently looking at designing a new system, where reputation points would mainly be handed out to members automatically for certain things. A few ideas off the top of my head, that may or may not be included in the system: maintaining a 0 warn level whilst being active on the board, providing the 'solution' to a 'problem' posted by a member (akin to Experts Exchange) and so on. We have many more ideas, but I don't want to list a whole load of things that may not end up included in the final product. I like these ideas very much. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 providing the 'solution' to a 'problem' posted by a member (akin to Experts Exchange) and so on. We have many more ideas, but I don't want to list a whole load of things that may not end up included in the final product. Oh, I like this part a whole lot! Once a problem has been resolved, the thread is marked resolved and the solution provider gets a point! :cool: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted July 10, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted July 10, 2010 yeah but still...if I went on to name everyone who I don't like on the forums in here it wouldn't be right...just my 2 cents It's not about me not liking the members in question. It's more about calling out the main trolls because their behaviour disgusts me. Just my 0.02 ?. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted July 10, 2010 Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 Just wondering out loud here, but how do other forums implement a rep system and avoid the problems we've seen here? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/7/#findComment-592885972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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