Darth Laidher Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Yeah that would be lame, I have one warning (they last for a long damn time) for something that was very minor. Yeah I agree they last to long.They should only be 3 weeks max. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixilEyes Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 If you have a warning you should be be able to up vote. I bet that would take care of 90% of the trolls. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 You mean that all the people who have caused trouble in the the past will have to wait to get rep points. Remember, warning levels go down automatically for non-rulebreaking behavior. Well like a previous poster said, The trouble makers will get a warning level quick anyway.To Be honest I don't think my warning level was warranted, Not naming any names but crying about something is ugh never mind. I got it for something trivial lets just say that. And now i gotta wait, what is it 6 months? or something like that for it to go down. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted July 10, 2010 Developer Share Posted July 10, 2010 So all the people with warning level's before this system came in place wont be able to get rep points.. That sucks. Where did my post say that? Warning levels drop after 6 months anyway, and maintaining a 0 warning level is just ONE of the suggestions we're throwing around. There will be many ways in which members can earn rep points. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 So basically, it's an achievement system? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupcakes Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 To lighten the thread up a bit: I say those that receive neg reps [from Staff] will force their theme to an even more absurdly blinding pink until they earn positive votes [from Staff.] Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Maybe you should be allowed one warning before losing anything else. Other than that, the warnings are fine. I don't see how they would be effective if they expired any sooner. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Where did my post say that? Warning levels drop after 6 months anyway, and maintaining a 0 warning level is just ONE of the suggestions we're throwing around. There will be many ways in which members can earn rep points. 6 months... thats a long time lol. How did you guys come up with that length anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted July 10, 2010 Developer Share Posted July 10, 2010 So basically, it's an achievement system? You could look at it like that I guess, but you'd be able to obtain the same achievement multiple times, obtaining points each time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted July 10, 2010 Developer Share Posted July 10, 2010 Maybe you should be allowed one warning before losing anything else. Other than that, the warnings are fine. I don't see how they would be effective if they expired any sooner. You don't lose anything through warnings anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoredBozirini Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Awww, I was a proud member with a 60% warning and 51 Reputation Posts (Excellent by the System). Oh well, who cares about this anyways. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixilEyes Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 6 months... thats a long time lol. How did you guys come up with that length anyway. It should be a permanent thing IMO. Trolls know after a certain amount of time they get a troll point back and usually use it ASAP. 5 years later I have zero. Its really not that hard. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 You don't lose anything through warnings anyway. I just meant if you were automatically excluded from reputation or achievement points or whatever if you had warnings like someone suggested earlier, allowing one warning might be a compromise that works. Or not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I havent studied how the warning system here works, but isnt there automatic account suspension, removal of post privileges/moderator queue, account ban if your warning level gets to a certain point? if so ,there is alot to lose, and i think that system works best against trolls. The way it is now, nothing happens unless you get to a 100%. Take my word for it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 It should be a permanent thing IMO. Trolls know after a certain amount of time they get a troll point back and usually use it ASAP. 5 years later I have zero. Its really not that hard. Permanent would be stupid. I have 1 warning and I doubt anyone considers me a troll or a troublemaker. Reducing the amount of warnings you get before you are banned or suspended would work better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted July 10, 2010 Developer Share Posted July 10, 2010 I havent studied how the warning system here works, but isnt there automatic account suspension, removal of post privileges/moderator queue, account ban if your warning level gets to a certain point? if so ,there is alot to lose, and i think that system works best against trolls. It's not automatic, it'd done manually by moderators in addition to the warn, at their discretion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazhar Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I do not see the post-up link! Is it removed? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted July 10, 2010 Developer Share Posted July 10, 2010 The way it is now, nothing happens unless you get to a 100%. Take my word for it. This is not true at all. Maybe in rare occasions, but by the time most members reach 100%, they have received numerous restrictions / posting suspensions. No way.When I get a warning because someone is crying over a crying baby picture then thats b.s. How many times have people posted a crying baby in these forums and got in trouble for it, probably not many.People getting butt hurt over little things shouldn't warrant a warning.Trivial b.s shouldn't get a warning.I like to have a warning level that is justified.If I knew was gonna get a warning i would of gavem something that would of warranted a warning. ;) If you have an issue with a moderation action taken against you, please take it up with the moderator in question, or a supervisor. Public discussion of moderation is not permitted. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 This is not true at all. Maybe in rare occasions, but by the time most members reach 100%, they have received numerous restrictions / posting suspensions. Oh, my mistake. I guess it depends on how bad you are then. It's not automatic though, at least. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 This is not true at all. Maybe in rare occasions, but by the time most members reach 100%, they have received numerous restrictions / posting suspensions. If you have an issue with a moderation action taken against you, please take it up with the moderator in question, or a supervisor. Public discussion of moderation is not permitted. Sorry, its just that its to easy to get a warning. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I'm not a fan of automatic bans at all, the way its done here is better. The staff knows better than some automatic system. The steam forums for example bans plenty of people that don't really deserve it (while actual trolls roam free or get temp bans) because their warnings last a long time, and you can't get very many. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted July 10, 2010 Developer Share Posted July 10, 2010 Sorry, its just that its to easy to get a warning. It's also easy to follow the rules and not get one, the majority of members manage to do that without a problem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupcakes Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 When I get a warning because someone is crying over a crying baby picture then thats b.s. How many times have people posted a crying baby in these forums and got in trouble for it, probably not many. People getting butt hurt over little things [...] Some people find it rude and/or "trolling" when you reply back with an obvious meme image retort. If you don't have anything to contribute to it, the best approach is to just avoid posting in it. That being said, you should read over the italicized part of your own post again; Taking your own advice is the best advice :). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 It's also easy to follow the rules and not get one, the majority of members manage to do that without a problem. To me a warning is a serious thing.Each level is a step closer to being banned.It just sucks the mods bend the rules for some and not all. Some people find it rude and/or "trolling" when you reply back with an obvious meme image retort. If you don't have anything to contribute to it, the best approach is to just avoid posting in it. That being said, you should read over the italicized part of your own post again; Taking your own advice is the best advice :). Yeah thats why other members do it all the time and not get punished :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplySchizo Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hows a system in which only the topic starter can issue a point. For example, I'm having a problem with such and such. I need help. Oh great, thanks _______ your suggestion fixed me right up. POINT ADDED. Also, one point per thread is all that's needed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919016-rep-changes/page/9/#findComment-592886214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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