Darth Laidher Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I pre-ordered my copy,I was just wondering if anyone else is going to pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explore Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I am still undecided. Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin in a box Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 What where why when who how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share Posted August 1, 2010 What where why when who how? http://www.easports.com/mma/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorwing Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xiphi Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Nope. Just doesn't look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Nope. Just doesn't look interesting. Well if they put the same mechanics in this as they did with fight night round 4 then this game should own ufc 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetham Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Well if they put the same mechanics in this as they did with fight night round 4 then this game should own ufc 2010. Probably will have the $10 to play used resale policy applied to it, so no. EA does not impress me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Probably will have the $10 to play used resale policy applied to it, so no. EA does not impress me. So? Why do you want to be cheap and get it used? get it for like 55 bucks used, 5 dollars for the code to get online bam 60 bucks that equals the new price. Besides DLC some times costs more than that anyway. And also THQ did that with their UFC game so yeah its not just EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetham Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 So? Why do you want to be cheap and get it used? get it for like 55 bucks used, 5 dollars for the code to get online bam 60 bucks that equals the new price. Besides DLC some times costs more than that anyway. And also THQ did that with their UFC game so yeah its not just EA. Its a matter of principle and ethics, for some of us, its flat out wrong. Does not matter whether the game is good or not, its Publishers pushing to see how far they can get the gamer to bend. You dont see it happening with used cars do you? Its not being cheap either, name calling does not help argue your point just an FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Its a matter of principle and ethics, for some of us, its flat out wrong. Does not matter whether the game is good or not, its Publishers pushing to see how far they can get the gamer to bend. You dont see it happening with used cars do you? Its not being cheap either, name calling does not help argue your point just an FYI. If you buy it new you don't pay extra for the code.In the used car business theres a bigger chance that you'll have to do maintenance on the car so should people refuse to buy used cars because theres a chance they'll have to put some money in to it?, yes a lot of used cars are in excellent condition, but not all of them are. And a lot of the used cars out there are not free from some sort of deterioration do to digs,scratches, wear and tear on the engine.There is a host of things that a used car could have wrong with them. The game business is different, the games are in most cases, if not all in brand new condition maybe they don't come with the manual but the main product is usually in brand new condition and besides a lot of used cars don't come with a manual either. I could see your argument if they added an extra 5 bucks on to the 60 dollars but come on stop being cheap spend the 60 bucks so you wont have to break into your wallet later on. Especially when they aren't charging extra for it when the game is new. I question you're principles if you're wanting a practically brand new game for cheap and then complain that you have to pay 5 dollars for online play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetham Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 If you buy it new you don't pay extra for the code.In the used car business theres a bigger chance that you'll have to do maintenance on the car so should people refuse to buy used cars because theres a chance they'll have to put some money in to it?, yes a lot of used cars are in excellent condition, but not all of them are. And a lot of the used cars out there are not free from some sort of deterioration do to digs,scratches, wear and tear on the engine.There is a host of things that a used car could have wrong with them. The game business is different, the games are in most cases, if not all in brand new condition maybe they don't come with the manual but the main product is usually in brand new condition and besides a lot of used cars don't come with a manual either. I could see your argument if they added an extra 5 bucks on to the 60 dollars but come on stop being cheap spend the 60 bucks so you wont have to break into your wallet later on. Especially when they aren't charging extra for it when the game is new. I question you're principles if you're wanting a practically brand new game for cheap and then complain that you have to pay 5 dollars for online play. Contrary to your belief, most used games are not "like-new". Cases are scratched, discs are scratched, missing manuals, missing cases, any DLC bonus content that came with the game is missing, are all heavily prevalent. The gaming business is no different than any other that puts out at product. Once its sold, its sold and property of the person who bought it. Your whole argument about used cars is just silly. The manufacturer of the used car does not see a dime of the used re-sale, that is the whole point. Costs due to maintenance are a completely different subject. Once again when you can cut the name calling and speak with reason maybe your argument would be more compelling. You can question principles all day, but they are my principles that I live by. Nowhere in my entire statement did I state that I am expecting a brand new game for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Contrary to your belief, most used games are not "like-new". Cases are scratched, discs are scratched, missing manuals, missing cases, any DLC bonus content that came with the game is missing, are all heavily prevalent. The gaming business is no different than any other that puts out at product. Once its sold, its sold and property of the person who bought it. Your whole argument about used cars is just silly. The manufacturer of the used car does not see a dime of the used re-sale, that is the whole point. Costs due to maintenance are a completely different subject. Once again when you can cut the name calling and speak with reason maybe your argument would be more compelling. You can question principles all day, but they are my principles that I live by. Nowhere in my entire statement did I state that I am expecting a brand new game for cheap. Where do you buy you're games? if they are scratched then you're probably not getting them at game stop,game stop checks their discs and if they are scratched they resurface them.You seriously want the DLC too??? Wow I can't believe you said that.Let me get this straight you want a like new disc plus the DLC??? People that buy the game new don't even get free DLC unless its promotional free DLC otherwise it has to be paid for and you want that too? Wow thats all I have to say about that i'm amazed you think you're entitled to that.Yes there is some occasions that people get free DLC but guess what its a perk of getting it new but even then not all DLC is free. You seriously concerned about the case? or the manual?? 99% of the games sold at game stop come with cases. Plus you're only getting games for maybe 5 to 10 dollars cheaper anyway because the games that have the code only came out a few months ago.So if you're only saving five to ten dollars why not buy the game new and get the code? Are you that concerned about money that you can't spare an extra 5 dollars? When they start charging 5 dollars on top of the 60 then i'll start fussing about it but as it stands right now they aren't. Why should someone be able to go into a store and get everything that someone else paid 60 dollars for, for cheaper?Thats not fair at all.60 dollars is a lot of money and you want to get all the stuff a person that pays 60 dollars gets? really??? You're principle's suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Will acquire it for the 360 :shiftyninja: If it's good then I'll buy it for the PS3 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetham Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Where do you buy you're games? if they are scratched then you're probably not getting them at game stop,game stop checks their discs and if they are scratched they resurface them.You seriously want the DLC too??? Wow I can't believe you said that.Let me get this straight you want a like new disc plus the DLC??? People that buy the game new don't even get free DLC unless its promotional free DLC otherwise it has to be paid for and you want that too? Wow thats all I have to say about that i'm amazed you think you're entitled to that.Yes there is some occasions that people get free DLC but guess what its a perk of getting it new but even then not all DLC is free. You seriously concerned about the case? or the manual?? 99% of the games sold at game stop come with cases. Plus you're only getting games for maybe 5 to 10 dollars cheaper anyway because the games that have the code only came out a few months ago.So if you're only saving five to ten dollars why not buy the game new and get the code? Are you that concerned about money that you can't spare an extra 5 dollars? When they start charging 5 dollars on top of the 60 then i'll start fussing about it but as it stands right now they aren't. Why should someone be able to go into a store and get everything that someone else paid 60 dollars for, for cheaper?Thats not fair at all.60 dollars is a lot of money and you want to get all the stuff a person that pays 60 dollars gets? really??? You're principle's suck. I noticed out of all that you are still keying in on one sentence and claiming that I am expecting a new game which I have not stated anywhere in my responses. Please point it out. Resurfacing does get out all scratches and therefore does not equal a new game. I would figure that is a given but apparently I need to be more specific. Everything I mentioned previously was to show you that the used game market is nothing like the new game market. It is in no way a reflection of what I expect out of a used game. If you are going to throw out stats like 99% of all games comes with cases please back it up but with specifics. Like is that 99% the original case with original cover art? No its not. I see it all the time in used game sales to include your precious Gamestop. You are arguing something I never stated in the first place. My whole argument was I refused to purchase a game new or used, from a publisher or developer, that are going to include an additional charge post sale to enable online multiplayer. It is stupid, petty, and down right unethical for me to do so. We all have a different set of morals and standards man, get used to it. There is no way you could make me change them. But by all means please continue to give them fuel to dig deeper into not only your wallet but every other gamer in the world to. They already made the money off the original sale, just like a manufacturer of a car does. Where do they get their sense of entitlement that they should get a piece of the used game sale as well. The only reason they get away with it is because gamers like you just don't care and there is enough of you for them to continue to do it. Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Well if they put the same mechanics in this as they did with fight night round 4 then this game should own ufc 2010. no it won't. just because the fight mechanics work in a game where all you do is punch doesn't mean its going to work in a game where you do everything. no intentino of getting this. i have ufc 2010 and it owns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 I noticed out of all that you are still keying in on one sentence and claiming that I am expecting a new game which I have not stated anywhere in my responses. Please point it out. Resurfacing does get out all scratches and therefore does not equal a new game. I would figure that is a given but apparently I need to be more specific. Everything I mentioned previously was to show you that the used game market is nothing like the new game market. It is in no way a reflection of what I expect out of a used game. If you are going to throw out stats like 99% of all games comes with cases please back it up but with specifics. Like is that 99% the original case with original cover art? No its not. I see it all the time in used game sales to include your precious Gamestop. You are arguing something I never stated in the first place. My whole argument was I refused to purchase a game new or used, from a publisher or developer, that are going to include an additional charge post sale to enable online multiplayer. It is stupid, petty, and down right unethical for me to do so. We all have a different set of morals and standards man, get used to it. There is no way you could make me change them. But by all means please continue to give them fuel to dig deeper into not only your wallet but every other gamer in the world to. They already made the money off the original sale, just like a manufacturer of a car does. Where do they get their sense of entitlement that they should get a piece of the used game sale as well. The only reason they get away with it is because gamers like you just don't care and there is enough of you for them to continue to do it. Have fun. Don't buy them then it's not going to make me lose any sleep at night.I don't want to change your views ,but as I see it, they are flawed. Buy the game new and there is no charge post sale for online play. Sooner or later all companies are going to charge for online play, if you buy the games new then you wont have to, THQ is doing it a long with EA have started the trend, Activison and the rest will probably follow.So I guess you're gaming days will be over soon if you don't want to buy new games. But it seems like you're some sort of game hippy that wont even buy a game new from someone that charges people for online play. What about WoW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Don't buy them then it's not going to make me lose any sleep at night.I don't want to change your views ,but as I see it, they are flawed. Buy the game new and there is no charge post sale for online play. Sooner or later all companies are going to charge for online play, if you buy the games new then you wont have to, THQ is doing it a long with EA have started the trend, Activison and the rest will probably follow.So I guess you're gaming days will be over soon if you don't want to buy new games. But it seems like you're some sort of game hippy that wont even buy a game new from someone that charges people for online play. What about WoW? comparing this type of situation to wow makes no sense. WoW is subscription based MMORPG that is completely reliant on Blizzards servers and something that is consistantly updated. You CANNOT say that about all the games EA is making people pay to play online if they bought the game used or any other company for that is using the same model (like THQ with UFC 2010). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 comparing this type of situation to wow makes no sense. WoW is subscription based MMORPG that is completely reliant on Blizzards servers and something that is completely updated. You CANNOT say that about all the games EA is making people pay to play online if they bought the game used or any other company for that is using the same model (like THQ with UFC 2010). Still Blizzard is making money off the gamer after the original purchase. Being against one company for adding additional cost and not another is hypocritical IMO so if he is against EA then in theory he should be against blizzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etempest Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I agree w/ Will Hump for G-nades Non-MMO games have been all long free to play online. When you get rid of your copy, you still have the ORIGINAL number of possible connections to the server, it's not like there multiplying load on there server. The game is made, and it's done. Online always been part of the initial sale. You make money by making quality games that people want to keep buying, and complying that many don't dump on the market use, other wise the game is a bit of a failure. All of a sudden game publishers try and make it sound that were taking food out of the employee's kids mouths, or were "stealing" there game if bought used? Cars, Books, Music CD's, DVD/Blu-ray's all can be given away or reused. The industry really wants to go to a "box" you rent (like cable company) then you pay a monthly fee to use, then pay a fee on top for top tier games. This is a step in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 no it won't. just because the fight mechanics work in a game where all you do is punch doesn't mean its going to work in a game where you do everything. no intentino of getting this. i have ufc 2010 and it owns. Yeah UFC 2010 is cool if you like the rockem sockem type machanics. FN4's physics engine is real time based,UFC's is not.UFC has physics in mind but they are all pre determined animations where as FN4's engine is real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetham Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Still Blizzard is making money off the gamer after the original purchase. Being against one company for adding additional cost and not another is hypocritical IMO so if he is against EA then in theory he should be against blizzard. I don't play MMOs. Mostly because I do not like monthly charges. So yes you could say I am against blizzard for the same reason. But once again thanks for assuming another thing that is not true. And thanks for the "game hippy" comment. You are really selling your point right now :rolleyes: If you knew anything, you would know that my entire library of games consists of mostly New games. I have two used games, that is it. Congratulations on once again making a completely pointless argument and reverting to name calling again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Yeah UFC 2010 is cool if you like the rockem sockem type machanics. FN4's physics engine is real time based,UFC's is not.UFC has physics in mind but they are all pre determined animations where as FN4's engine is real time. i guess we'll have to wait and see. buit at least the UFC game has on thing for it. their best fighter in the game isn't a guy who tapped in a minute to a UFC reject ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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