1337ish Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Sony is to charge PlayStation 3 users for a PlayTV firmware update that brings to the tuner and console the ability to view a seven-day programme guide and record entire series of shows at the push of a button - features DVR owners already take for granted.The Japanese giant announced the major PlayTV update back in April, and last month added details: the addition of Series Link, support for the TVTV online programme guide, chat-while-you-view over PSN and make recommendations the same way.Then came the bombshell: "You will be able to get the software update on PS Store at a reasonable price," Sony blogger James Thorpe let slip. Sony's reasoning: that the update respresents the company's "strong community commitment", that "a lot of effort" went into the firmware's development and that the "premium" update will "make PlayTV a very unique product". continued at: http://www.reghardware.com/2010/09/21/sony_playtv_update_charge/ What a farce charging for it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Bring PlayTV to the US please. I would PAY for the update just to have it here :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted September 21, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted September 21, 2010 And you made 2 threads for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Not sure about the source, isn't The Register known for posting rubbish? If this is true, I'll be annoyed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tews Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 OMG... the audacity of Sony!!! Charging people for a product! .... get over it, you dont get everything for free.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 OMG... the audacity of Sony!!! Charging people for a product! .... get over it, you dont get everything for free.... A patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsutton Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Not sure about the source, isn't The Register known for posting rubbish? If you read it again, the link actually takes you to the Playstation page and that's where he said about the "reasonble price". :) I don't agree with it... you don't pay for a patch. It's like saying "sorry, we cocked up our coding, here's a patch... and you'll need to pay for it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tews Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Guess you're not going to get that for free either.... if you want to use PlayTV, you either play for the patch or go without ... you'll gladly pay $50-60 for a game but whine about dishing out a few bucks for this??? Like I said get over it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedstr3789 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 In other news. Kids today still seem to think that everything should be free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2010/08/20/playtv-is-set-to-get-even-better/ Posted on 23 August, 2010 at 12:45 pm by James ThorpeHi, the development guys are constantly working hard to add as many new features as possible that have been requested across all markets. The new features in this update represent PlayStation?s strong community commitment. You will be able to get the software update on PS Store at a reasonble price. A lot of effort went into developing these features and they will make PlayTV a very unique product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Not sure about the source, isn't The Register known for posting rubbish? Basically, yes. Considering what they used as "reasons" for charging. It smells like bull ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Basically, yes. Considering what they used as "reasons" for charging. It smells like bull ****. Why would it be BS when it's linked from the official PS blog where they state it will be released for a 'reasonable price' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_f Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 A patch. It's a patch in the same sense Office 2010 is a patch for Office 2007? From what I can tell it's a pretty substantial update - not traditional 'patch' material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted September 21, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted September 21, 2010 Was this sold as requiring an ongoing cost? Then the comparison to Live is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337ish Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 It basically means I wont be buying one ever really. What happens when you buy a playtv, do you then have to go and buy a firmware update after the event to make it catch up to what any other dvr does in the box? Sony stupidly does not realise this costs sales and does not generate sales, I really hated the very limited playtv but it sounded like they were finally catching up now to burn those early adopters. God all the existing unsold stock would just need a sticker to say "now with" and it would help sales. But no they might as well rip of customers and make it even harder to sell at retail. Wait for it but I wouldnt be surprised if v4 of ps3 firmware charges.... sony you really are evil. EDIT: And no I dont think anyone thought this would happen with charging for firmware as most would say its a scummy thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_f Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 EDIT: And no I dont think anyone thought this would happen with charging for firmware as most would say its a scummy thing to do. When was charging for new features a scummy thing to do? If you bought a mobile phone and a network launches a new service, do you expect to automatically be given that service for free? No, it's ridiculous. And I'm sure people who buy it after the release of this update will get the most recent version for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337ish Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 When was charging for new features a scummy thing to do? If you bought a mobile phone and a network launches a new service, do you expect to automatically be given that service for free? No, it's ridiculous. And I'm sure people who buy it after the release of this update will get the most recent version for free. Its scummy apple charged tbh and its scummy sony are charging, just because you have huge amounts of money to waste on patches it doesnt mean the rest should suffer because its acceptable to you. And there are NO guarantees they will get it for free.... Your analogy is poor at best, if the mobile co sold me a phone without texting while saying its coming then forcing me to pay to get the ability to text yeh its scummy. Does no one have a clue on acceptable practices or do sony have a halo which allows them to be scum and get away with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_f Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Its scummy apple charged tbh and its scummy sony are charging, just because you have huge amounts of money to waste on patches it doesnt mean the rest should suffer because its acceptable to you. And there are NO guarantees they will get it for free.... Your analogy is poor at best, if the mobile co sold me a phone without texting while saying its coming then forcing me to pay to get the ability to text yeh its scummy. Does no one have a clue on acceptable practices or do sony have a halo which allows them to be scum and get away with it? What on earth? Apple, huh? My 'huge amounts of money', huh? You've gotten your knickers all tied up in a bunch over absolutely nothing important. Okay, so there's no guarantees. So what? Chances are this is going to be the case but even if it's not true consumers who care about those features will bare the additional update cost in mind when making their purchase, and those who aren't aware are likely ones who look at the box, want what it has and buy it for that. If the mobile company sold it with "Texting coming XYZ, guaranteed!" on the shelf or the place you purchased it then you're point would hold true, but as far as I'm aware Sony and/or retailers didn't do this - so your point is moot. In most of the western world and beyond selling your goods is an acceptable practice, and one necessary for survival. You've conjured up some pseudo-conspiracy of Sony fanboys allowing Sony to be evil. No. It's merely more sensible posters understanding the basics of economics and business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337ish Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 So when they announce it on their blog and joe bloggs goes and buys one in anticipation of the update to find out they neglected to highlight the charge, thats acceptable? http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2010/08/20/playtv-is-set-to-get-even-better/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_f Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 So when they announce it on their blog and joe bloggs goes and buys one in anticipation of the update to find out they neglected to highlight the charge, thats acceptable? http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2010/08/20/playtv-is-set-to-get-even-better/ From that article: The next new feature for PlayTV is a new premium programme guide (from ?tvtv?) that lets you Plan your TV viewing 7 days in advance. You can also find tonnes of information on programmes and movies, as well as discovering new things to watch by searching TV listings by genre, actors, directors, producers and more. (standard PlayTV programme guide in Australia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337ish Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 From that article: LMAO because "PREMIUM" instantly means CHARGING, my point still stands, it should be MUCH clearer then having to read into sony wording. You should recall sony stating things like the PS3 being a premium experience over xbox, so that use of premium there is not charge but in this case it is?!?! the use of the word does certainly not necessitate a charge (although from now on should be regarded as "charge" when its from a sony pr team) If you look at the http://www.thefreedi...ary.com/premium says ONE meaning could be a charge.... 9. An unusual or high value could be true... They should have said "we are minks and plan to charge you a hundred million pounds to do what your existing dvr can do", but thats just a premium thing.... My DVR is premium over the sony one as I dont pay for firmware, see what I did there, used a DIFFERENT meaning of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_f Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 As there's obviously no way to make you rationalise the 'situation' I'm going to call it a day. Enjoy getting worked up about it, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noveed Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 BS this, PlayTV was the worst thing I bought for my PS3 :/ barely used it because its sooooo basic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337ish Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 As there's obviously no way to make you rationalise the 'situation' I'm going to call it a day. Enjoy getting worked up about it, bud. Cant you even admit that maybe/definitely/possibly their choice of wording didnt truly highlight the fact there will be a cost for this update? I mean come on they could have written "The next new feature for PlayTV is a new premium programme guide which will carry a one time reasonable charge" which although still bad (imo to charge) at least makes it clearer for the consumer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_f Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Cant you even admit that maybe/definitely/possibly their choice of wording didnt truly highlight the fact there will be a cost for this update? I mean come on they could have written "The next new feature for PlayTV is a new premium programme guide which will carry a one time reasonable charge" which although still bad (imo to charge) at least makes it clearer for the consumer. Yes, of course I can. I didn't write the article, I don't own a PlayTV and I have no attachment to it in any way shape or form. Nor am I a particular fan of Sony, or Playstation, or Freeview for that matter. I understand why people don't want to pay, but I don't understand why people think they have to pay. But the fact is that you made an assumption that it was to be free, one that turned out to be incorrect and you are now just ranting about it like a kid who didn't get his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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