Gromvar Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I got a D-Link 614+ recently, and I wanted to try it out. So I followed the instructions to a T and the thing works perfectly. I'm actually using my laptop right now on the wireless lan it has. My problem is my brothers comp. It can get an ip from the router and all the info, but no matter what I did it wouldn't work. I figured it may have been the porn crap he had downloaded. (because he had alot of those dialers and didn't know it. He's the clicking anything that pops up kind) Anyway I thought maybe a good format and reinstall wouldn't hurt, because it's been over a year since this things last format. I did it and still i get the same problem. XP pro gets the ip and dns and all that rest, but when I open IE and try to connect to any website it doesn't work. He has a realtek rtl8029 pci ethernet card. It lights up. Heck it even flickers when I do repairs and or try to get on a site. I've made sure all the wiring is secure, and have replaced the cat5 cables. I've made sure all the protocals and such is correct. The only possible thing I can think of left is that maybe, just maybe his network card is going out. If anyone has any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted July 25, 2003 MVC Share Posted July 25, 2003 Can he ping the router? Does he get the name server info, can you ping his machine from your laptop, etc.. What IP address is he getting?? Possible he is getting a random IP address (windows will do that) And that would be useless in your setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astral Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 First, just like you're thinking, swap the NIC and see if it helps. Did you check to see if his PC has the proper proxy settings (it shouldn't matter, but just in case)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromvar Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 Budman: Yes he can ping the router. Yes I can ping his comp. His ip is showing 192.168.0.101 and I'm 100. I didn't give a name to the router, it was optional. He is getting the ip of the router though. Astral: I'm going tomorrow to pick up a cheap nic to see if that works. And there was nothing about a proxy server in the instructions. But I have set the autodetect under his internet options. edit: Also I tried right then moving around to another port for his. Still no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted July 25, 2003 MVC Share Posted July 25, 2003 No - what DNS server (name server) does he get? If you can not do name resolution - you aint going anywhere on the net. Can he ping say www.yahoo.com If you do a ipconfig /all it will list the ip address of the dns server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromvar Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 The dns server is the same ip as the dhcp and the default gateway. No i can't can't ping anything outside of the router with his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjbeckwith Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I have the same access point and let the dns server fill as the router. I have had no problems and I have 4 computers on my lan, 3 hardwired and a laptop with 802.11b wireless card. If you cannot do an nslookup off the machine, can you pull a web page by putting in the IP address? Also, have you checked the advanced settings on the router? You can deny access to ip addresses or mac addresses through the setup. And last but not least, have you flashed the firmware with the latest version? Keep in mind that there are 2 styles of the DI614+ so get the right firmware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 The dns server is the same ip as the dhcp and the default gateway. The DNS server should be pointing your ISP's dns addresses. The WAN status of the router properties should display your internet IP as well as the DNS servers of the ISP. Use those DNS addresses for the clients on your network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromvar Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 (edited) Budious: I tried those dns's and still no good. Also I tried using the ip of a site and i couldn't ping with it either. edit:Just thought of something do you think my isp blocks multiple comps on one ip. Edited July 25, 2003 by Gahmahn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted July 25, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 25, 2003 if you have a router your ISP won't know you have multiple computers because they only see the one IP (the router's). can he ping www.neowin.net? can he ping 207.44.242.9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 did you get a router or a hub? check that, if its a hub, then take it back, get a router :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromvar Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 lol I'm sure it's a router. I'm thinking he has a faulty nic because everytime he does anything on the comp it leases out the same ip to it each time, and the name to his comp is getting weird symbols at the end of the name. I'm looking at the router's log for this info. Sound like a bad nic to anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted July 25, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 25, 2003 plug the cable/dsl directly into his nic. skip the router. can he ping anything then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromvar Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 only sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted July 25, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 25, 2003 :blink: sometimes? what can/can't he ping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromvar Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 I'm seriously thinking it's a flaky nic. I'll post more info tomorrow after I have a new nic installed. Thx for all the help so far. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromvar Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 Ok I got a new nic in it now. You were right BudMan he was getting a random ip from the router. Anyway I can fix that? Static DHCP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted July 25, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 25, 2003 the random ip probably isn't coming from the router, it's coming from windows. and "static DHCP" is an oxymoron :laugh: you can give it a static ip, that will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 if you plug you computer into the modem bypassing the router do you get a connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwakui Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Microsoft has reserved the 169.254.x.x range of IP addresses. If Windows 98/2000 (PPC2002/MacOS do it too...) is set for DHCP but does not recieve a DHCPOFFER after 4 DHCPREQUESTs, the workstation itself generates a "random IP"; it doesn't come from the router/DHCP server. Microsoft APIPA (automatic private IP addressing) chooses a random IP from 169.254.x.x and checks to see if it's in use. It will try up to 10 addresses - if all are in use it just stops. Any time you see recieve a 169.254.x.x IP address, you can safely assume there is a problem either with your network connection or your DHCP server - unless someone actually is stupid enough to use APIPA instead of a DHCP server to dynamically assign their addresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromvar Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 Ok It's still doing a window internet effect. It sees the ip and other info needed, but I can't connect to anything outside of the router. I'm to the point of playing kick ball with this box. Gotta take a break from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazerBack Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Sounds like the winsock2 registry is corrupted. Do a winsock2 fix, only if your using win95/win98/winME Oh yeah google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Elaborate on your 'only sometimes'. Connecting directly to the modem, can he ping IP's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromvar Posted July 26, 2003 Author Share Posted July 26, 2003 not anymore he can't ping anything outside of the router. I'm going to dump the thing on my isp people on monday when they bring me a replacement cable modem, which is the whole reason why i wanted to test out the router. I'm going to play the fool and do the "why can't I connect?" senario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted July 26, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 26, 2003 :D i love doing that but if they show up and i can tell they know absolutely nothing i'll kinda be like "why don't you just give me the tools..." :shifty: LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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