.... Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 What on earth is the point of this movie? What are they trying to prove? What good is going to come from it? If it's entertainment, then people need serious help. :rolleyes: The movie was meant to make u think and learn something But if you close your mind and just think its some sick entertainment, then you just learn nothing Learn what, though? You all keep avoiding that part. Is this some sort of Documentary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezza Veteran Posted July 26, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 26, 2003 i don't think you learn anything directly from watching this film. i think it makes you think about how human beings react in certain situations, and you can learn from your own thought processes. the violence in Battle Royale is not tasteless or too in-your-face, its necessary for the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarix Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 im a sick puppy but when it comes to a movie like this im gonna watch it i like to keep myself open minded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgEnTsMiTh Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Based on the novel by Takami Koshun, Battle Royale is a thought-provoking tale of 'what if??'. The film is set in a near-future Japan where the government's concerns about juvenile delinquency and the youth's disregard for discipline and order have paved the way for extreme measures: the methodical extermination of teenage children. The method: groups of high school children are systematically kidnapped and brought to a deserted island. They are given weapons and food and an order: to go out and kill each other. The last one standing is allowed back into society. It's a brutal premise and what follows is inevitably a brutal film. Fukasaku never has pulled any punches when it comes to showing violence on screen, and this time around it comes bloodier than ever. This has prompted some to judge the film as little more than a stylised blood bath, a Friday the 13th with guns and younger victims. However, there is a lot going on beneath the crimson-soaked surface. Fukasaku questions a society by extrapolating its phenomena. He presents us with a Japan whose anger over violent youth has gone so far overboard that the solutions are worse than the problem. In fact, it breeds what it intends to destroy, forcing these children to wreak more havoc upon each other in three days, than they could ever wreak upon society in a lifetime's worth of delinquency. Conservative politics destroy rather than create, seems to be Fukasaku's message. The young here are the scapegoats for the problems of a country that suffers from an overdose of luxury. It has to create its own crises. The army no longer fights foreign aggressors, but its own children. Fukasaku's reasons for making the film are more than concern over politics and society. The story of fifteen-year-olds caught in a crisis situation mirrored his own experiences during and just after World War II. At age 15, Fukasaku was working in a factory that was a regular target for Allied bombing raids. There, he said, he learned what happens to friendship in a life-threatening situation. In trying to project these experiences onto a story about today's youth one inevitably encounters a generation gap. To bridge this gap, the director brought in his own twenty-something son Kenta to write the screenplay. Even though it's a step closer, some say that the dialogue is not like the language today's Japanese youth use. Still, that hasn't stopped any of those youth from standing in long lines outside the nation's cinemas in order to see the film. Battle Royale is a powerful, blood red barrage of a film. Its strengths are undeniable, its weaknesses few. In the winter of his career, Fukasaku is still provoking. And he's succeeding more than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macster Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 What on earth is the point of this movie? What are they trying to prove? What good is going to come from it? If it's entertainment, then people need serious help. :rolleyes: The movie was meant to make u think and learn something But if you close your mind and just think its some sick entertainment, then you just learn nothing Learn what, though? You all keep avoiding that part. Is this some sort of Documentary? Learn to go watch a movie first and then make your judgement :angry: Its like when u see all the poor ppl suffering and getting killed on TV (This part is sad and sometimes sick) And the effect on you is suppose to be : "Wow so much suffering, so now i know war is bad" Not a really good example but u really need to watch it to find out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 The US displays the decimated bodies of the spawn of Saddam in close-up color. That was definitely real - warranted or not; while on the other hand Japan's offer is a fictional film. It seems the issue is somewhat analogous to asking what?s more pornographic: (1) a bare breast or (2) a sucking chest wound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekka Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 good point ^^ Anyway, read the book, it's good :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldyn Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Ok I just want to make it known that, while it isnt my decision, restricting BlackClouds account based on what he said he is ridiculous. I saw his response and it was nothing worse than Anita's. Both members involved have been spoken with so there is no further need to debate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniacid Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 The US displays the decimated bodies of the spawn of Saddam in close-up color. That was definitely real - warranted or not; while on the other hand Japan's offer is a fictional film. It seems the issue is somewhat analogous to asking what?s more pornographic: (1) a bare breast or (2) a sucking chest wound? eh? I never saw or heard about them displaying them, I want to see it also just for curiosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D!ABOL!C Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 I just ordered the 604 page novel, I should get it by mid next week. As to the movie, I wanna see it! Nothing like graphically violent movies, good times! Does anyone know by chance if there will be a Region 1 translation of DVD? If not, anyone know where I would be able to purchase this film online and will play in my Region 1 DVD player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 This movie is beast easily described as freaking awesome as well as thought provoking. I thought it was easily one of the best movies I had ever seen back in 2k2, when a freind of mine mailed me a bootlegged copy from thailand. I am soo waiting to see BRII which follows the 2 main characters from BRI as well as a new group of kids chosen for the new instatement of the Battle Royale Act. Also if you have a chance pick up the book if you can find it. Currently I am half way through it and let me tell you a lot was cut out from the movie. If these types of movies are your thing, or you just want so see a cool movie here are some other HK titles i sugest. Time and Tide - Action/Love Story Suiscide Club - Mystery BRII - (not yet released) Versus - Horror/Action All of the following are cool movies IMHO. Have fun ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgEnTsMiTh Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 You can purchase the dvd in the USA now. the dvd is region free, thus anyone can get it and play it. Great Movie, GREAT Dvd!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3gnslngr Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 i don't see why this movie has caused so much controversy.. i mean Lord of the Flies was one of the best books i have ever read, regardless of the violence... and this seems to be along the same lines as that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc A. Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I watched it a week or so ago, I thought it was ok... the idea was cool, but a little too "low budget" looking for me. Great idea, poorly executed (haha, that's a pun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravager Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Can someone explain to me WHY they have to kill each other? I'm not anti- this film. I'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noir Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I yoinked this from IMDb: They have to fight each other three days long until the last one remains and are forced to wear a special collar which will explode when they break a rule. Basically they all get killed if they don't, by fighting each other at least they have a chance to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekka Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 If these types of movies are your thing, or you just want so see a cool movie here are some other HK titles i sugest. HK? :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackice912 Veteran Posted July 27, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 27, 2003 I yoinked this from IMDb:Basically they all get killed if they don't, by fighting each other at least they have a chance to survive. Wow...I'm going to try and find this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmate15 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Maybe they'll have a movie of kids killing their families next.? You guys are <snip>:argh:: anita, the idea of the film is not "watch kids kill each other!", its a film which is supposed to make you think. have you ever read lord of the flies? that book gives you an idea of what the author thought about what children are capable of... and involves a gang of them ritualistically killing one of their number, yet is widely considered to be a very good book, because it MAKES YOU THINK. you have to have an open mind to be able to appreciate it. have you ever enjoyed watching a film where somebody gets shot? did you call yourself a loser for liking it, because it contained violence? please don't resort to personal insults. I am currently reading Lord of The Flies. Even though it is a very old book and written by an English author which makes it difficult to understand some things in it, I know what the author is trying to show. I don?t think it was written to show that even kids could kill someone. I think the author is trying to show how she thinks the youth of her generation would handle the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganpugh84 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I saw this film when it was released ages ago, is a good movie. Personally I think there is nothing wrong with films like this, I know it is wrong and when I watch it I don't want to start killing people. If you don't like films like this then fine just please don't start saying that films like make people wanna kill each other. People who say that just use it as an excuse as they don't want to admit to themselves that they think as twisted as how they acted! I have more respect for murders who admit they are ****** in the head than people who say "ohhh i saw child's play and it made me kill them" what a load of crap! :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmate15 Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 I saw this film when it was released ages ago, is a good movie. Personally I think there is nothing wrong with films like this, I know it is wrong and when I watch it I don't want to start killing people. If you don't like films like this then fine just please don't start saying that films like make people wanna kill each other. People who say that just use it as an excuse as they don't want to admit to themselves that they think as twisted as how they acted! I have more respect for murders who admit they are ****** in the head than people who say "ohhh i saw child's play and it made me kill them" what a load of crap! :angry: EXACTLY, if the movies wernt around they wouldnt have anything to blame all the killings on, they would just find something else in the media. blaming movies and games is just the easy way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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