How scared of the RIAA are you?


How worried are you of being caught by the RIAA??  

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  1. 1. How worried are you of being caught by the RIAA??

    • A lot
      8
    • Somewhat
      33
    • Only A little
      56
    • Not at all
      177
    • I already have been =(
      1


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The RIAA is suing everybody to capitalize on something, that they are kicking themselves in the ass for not coming up with first. They were against Tapes when they first came out because they thought everyone would be copying music and giving it to their friends. And look what happened...During the years that tapes were out the record industry made more profits than they ever had. Same is true with the MPAA and VCR's, they were initially against vcrs, yet again they are also benefiting from higher profits from the sale of tapes and dvds. They are fighting a losing battle. If they don't adapt to new technology they will not survive. Consumers are tired of buying CD's with 15 crappy songs and only 1 or 2 songs they actually want. I think the RIAA is realizing they can no longer sell crap in bulk and get away with it.

That still doesn't change the fact that stealing songs is wrong. Yeah, fine, you might be getting a better economy, but you used wrong means to get to it. Even if the motive of the RIAA were to get money, one of the things they are trying to stop is the stealing of songs, which is a noble venture.

No matter what benefits come out of a situation, if it were attained by doing something wrong, it stays wrong. If killing one innocent man meant the society would be 10x richer, that still doesn't change the fact that killing one innocent man is wrong.

I'm strictly looking to this from a "means-based" perspective, fine I can see economical benefits, but they would be attained through unethical means.

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I voted "Not at all".

I knew from the start that P2P was going to be a short lived thing that wouldn't last forever, so now that's the stakes have gone up I'm done.

Kinda mad though because no P2P means less records bought by me, because now I can't listen to a whole cd before I buy it but oh well, less money for the RIAA I guess. So now I'm back to where I was completely ignorant about cool bands that haven't been given proper radio and air time, and only being exposed to the mainstream.

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Very funny, especially since I said in the beggining of my previous that I don't endorse the RIAA. But that stealing music is wrong.

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Yeha im pretty safe too, but some por jackass in hte us got ****** over hes like 50 something had like 150 songs on his kazaa and was sued for i think it was 130us per song he ended up wiht a bill he couldnt pay somewhere in the 10 thousands i think. It was on CNN by the way i t may be on their site but i don't know. Just to let you know that they aren't jsut going after the big guys.

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if i have to stop using P2P for my music, i'll just stop buying cd's ....screw the RIAA either way. there is always ripping songs off shoutcast and such (that's not illegal is it? lol)....and there is always the radio. so inclusion, SCREW THE RIAA :p

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i dont even care. the music i listen to is open sorce if you will. free trade and tapping at the shows.

the good ol fashion grateful dead.

and all the other bands in to free forum jam band music.

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If a band is complaining that P2P is hurting their profits, they aren't in it for the music anymore. They've sold out, and they're just being plain greedy. The truth is, the internet is a great resource for artists who want to distribute their music and get people listening to it, but don't have the funds to do it any other way. Bands like Metallica who whine and cry when they sell 100,000 less CDs should just quit the music biz and leave it to the real musicians who still have a passion for their music.

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If a band is complaining that P2P is hurting their profits, they aren't in it for the music anymore. They've sold out, and they're just being plain greedy. The truth is, the internet is a great resource for artists who want to distribute their music and get people listening to it, but don't have the funds to do it any other way. Bands like Metallica who whine and cry when they sell 100,000 less CDs should just quit the music biz and leave it to the real musicians who still have a passion for their music.

This is why i hate Metallica now.

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That still doesn't change the fact that stealing songs is wrong. Yeah, fine, you might be getting a better economy, but you used wrong means to get to it. Even if the motive of the RIAA were to get money, one of the things they are trying to stop is the stealing of songs, which is a noble venture.

No matter what benefits come out of a situation, if it were attained by doing something wrong, it stays wrong. If killing one innocent man meant the society would be 10x richer, that still doesn't change the fact that killing one innocent man is wrong.

I'm strictly looking to this from a "means-based" perspective, fine I can see economical benefits, but they would be attained through unethical means.

What about CDs being priced at $19.99 CND for two decades. What about CDs labelled "imports" priced at $34.99 CND for a decade. (Most of my rap collection are imports) The RIAA were stealing your money for decades and now the tables have turned and you take their side?

If you you kill a serial killer, is that so wrong? Thats whats going on here...yet you have the audacity to think them to be noble in what they do? Talk about messed up.

Corporations have spent billions in picking apart your brain to get your money and you defend them? People like you are the problem with society. People who feel these companies are doing you a favour.

We as consumers should be in control. With our combined power, we are stronger then any government or corporation. We should be setting the standards and not be wrangled like sheep...

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This is why i hate Metallica now. 
If thats all it took to make you dislike them, maybe music doesnt really mean that much to you in the first place, so I'm guessing most music lovers dont really respect your opinion. ;)
since i'm not in the nazi states of america, i'm not worried. 

That made me laugh. I agree :)

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i am a die hard music lover. I didn't think i needed to specify that greed was not my only reason for disliking a band...but here it goes...i wasn't a fan of Metalllica before they started the @$$ kicking of Napster...that just pushed me even further along in my dislike of them.

I won't try to argue that stealing music is right. i know it's not in any way, but the only music that i "borrow" and then don't buy are the cd from bands that make such a huge fuss about it. I do say borrow because it's not stealing if you just end up running out and buying the band's CD (for a inflated price, mind you) The bands like Linkin Park, Beastie Boys, and Rage Against the Machine that are somewhat "open source" about their music...those are the bands that i download the music, then run out and buy the cd.

i think the RIAA is just greedy and trying to maintain the monopoly that they have had for such a long time. it's sad...but this isn't about stopping P2P to help the artists...this is the RIAA just trying to gain back some of the profits they are losing...it has nothing (or very little) to do with helping the artists. that just sucks IMHO.

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i wasn't a fan of Metalllica before they started the @$$ kicking of Napster...that just pushed me even further along in my dislike of them.?

Fair enough, but if you were a fan of Metallica, you'd realise that it wasn't *metallica* who caused the trouble, but Lars (the drummer) and his lawyers.

Lars is an idiot when it comes to business, the law etc, most metallica fans will agree. But hes incredably creative:))

As far as i'm concerned they can do that they want,Metallica arn't doing anything illegal, you are.>

This whole situation is really really interesting, the net has furballed out of control. I cant wait to see in 10years time how its progressed.

One thing is obvious, its too easy to break the law. If it doesnt change, we are going to see fewer artists getting signed, and fewer games being writen.

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I'd have to agree that piracy has gone far out of control. However, I don't think it's wrong at all to have mp3s on the internet available for download. For example, I own well over 150 CDs which I have had for quite a long time. The problem is, CDs get scratched. So what am I to do when I can no longer listen to my favorite cd? Do I not still own that music? In this case I think it's only fair that I be able to download the songs which I have already purchased. Also, I like having the ability to listen to an entire CD before I decide whether the artist deserves my business. If I don't like a song, I delete it anyways. And if I like it, I buy it. I don't just go "Ha ha, I got that for free. Stupid artist doesn't get any of my money!"

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That still doesn't change the fact that stealing songs is wrong. Yeah, fine, you might be getting a better economy, but you used wrong means to get to it. Even if the motive of the RIAA were to get money, one of the things they are trying to stop is the stealing of songs, which is a noble venture.

No matter what benefits come out of a situation, if it were attained by doing something wrong, it stays wrong. If killing one innocent man meant the society would be 10x richer, that still doesn't change the fact that killing one innocent man is wrong.

I'm strictly looking to this from a "means-based" perspective, fine I can see economical benefits, but they would be attained through unethical means.

What about CDs being priced at $19.99 CND for two decades. What about CDs labelled "imports" priced at $34.99 CND for a decade. (Most of my rap collection are imports) The RIAA were stealing your money for decades and now the tables have turned and you take their side?

If you you kill a serial killer, is that so wrong? Thats whats going on here...yet you have the audacity to think them to be noble in what they do? Talk about messed up.

Corporations have spent billions in picking apart your brain to get your money and you defend them? People like you are the problem with society. People who feel these companies are doing you a favour.

We as consumers should be in control. With our combined power, we are stronger then any government or corporation. We should be setting the standards and not be wrangled like sheep...

Well said, Lokheed. And Welcome to Neowin.

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I think i do more in real life to be afrade of then the RIAA and if anyone from the RIAA sees this suck my dick you over paid, ###### suckers

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I ain't scared that much because if they try to get me for anything, I'll tell them I buy the fricken music after I preview them. This is how I work out buying music since I can't get certain music I like out here, this is the only way I can hear it. If I like more than three songs of this particular artist's album, heck I'll buy the album. That's what I did for DJ Shadow's old stuff and I was thankful for it. Thanx Kazaa! You made me buy another cd and contributed to the RIAA!

This technology was forseen to put these old idiots out of business... tapes and cds were the first and second gen enemies, this is good ol' number 3. Third time's a charm peeps, down with RIAA! We should try and get more artists to go with itunes and such so they don't get ripped off but the RIAA will.... but, then RIAA will sue the artists and mp3 retailers.... god dammit! :pinch:

Also, I would gladly pay 20 bucks for a cd if I knew the money was (at least) mostly going to the artists THAT MADE THE MUSIC. Many times I read about where the money was going to in the music biz, and many times this discouraged me to go out and produce for a living (it's my hobby right now) I pay hundreds of dollars every year for music, thinking I'm helping the artist move forward to do more music, when really I'm helping some fat overpaid pigs leech off of poor artists with limited business skills and experience. What's the difference here? Wouldn't you rather get the music for free and not get your money stolen or support an evil equal to big tobacco and dubya bush?

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What can they do, they are only doing it to scare people. And from the looks of some of these posts it seems to be working. If we don't hang on to the rights we have we will be the nazi states of america that somebody mentioned. Stand up and for your rights and don't let these a**holes walk on us. If ever there was a reason to get people to go out and vote this should be it, look at the s***ty laws they are passing and our tax dollars are paying for all this s**t. The Riaa isn't thats for sure.

Check out the link in my sig.

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I think the members of this board are miniscule in comparison to the millions that use Kazaa. Hence, since most Kazaa users don't go to message boards like these, the RIAA can succesfuly use their tactics as a deterrent to those, thus scaring them in the process. All that leaves behind are us individuals who wish to continue and not be dettered, and the RIAA will go ahead and us too because all the others will be scared and gone already.

So following that logic, I think its better to be scared. Getting sued is getting sued, by DDOSing them, you don't destroy that subpeona on your desk.

Yes but if you play into fear then we would be no better than Nazi Germany, that is how Hitler controled things with fear, how many people were willing to give up some of thier rights after 9/11 because of fear? You can't play into fear regardles of the threat. If we let fear contorl us then we have already lost. We control the situation, we buy the cds we buy the music, if we stop buying there would be no music industry. The music industry has ripped off the consumers, and artists for years, we need a change.

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B.

Comparing Hitler to the RIAA is ludicrous. Hitler restricted rights on a fundamental level. Stealing Music is not, and never will be a right. What you are doing was what every classical American is doing right now: overclaiming rights. Read "Rights Talk" by Mary Ann Glendon.

Moreover, the citizens in Nazi Germany had no fear, they just didn't have any money because of poor economic conditions and sanctions places from World War 1, hence they were desperate. That's why they fell for Hitler's rule, because he promised to undo all the restrictions made in The Treaty of Versailles.

First off I wasn't comparing the Riaa to Hitler I was using the fear example and yes he did use fear to control, look into the Nuremberg Trials and what Wilhelm Goring said. And I never once said stealing was ok either as I stated that music industry has not only been ripping off us the consumers but the artists as well, I believe the artist should get paid the money that is owed to them. And yes our rights have been getting taken away from us by big business for years but most people don't know it, when the constitution was written copyright laws lasted a max of 20 years now they are over 90 years. The only reason they are over 90 now is so that the music and movie industry can continue to make money.

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using the avatar i made are u, lol

ne ways, me no scared :D

i like this avatar a lot...thank you. :p if you mind i can change it, i don't have a problem with that.

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