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XCalvin

Any news on anyone porting the wp7 os to iphone, you know like what they did with android?

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Leonick

Nope... Don't expect anything like that anytime soon, such things take time

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PmRd

I can say without a doubt that it will never happen.

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Leonick

I can say without a doubt that it will never happen.

Really what makes you so sure?

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Prince Charming

Really what makes you so sure?

Windows Phone 7s leave the factory with a unique, per-device certificate physically installed on the device, which is subsequently used for auth, activation of the phone and so on. It's something efforts to port WP7 onto older WM6.5 devices such as the HD2 will run into - they might be able to get it to boot, but there will be no marketplace (so no apps), there will be no zune, there will be no xbox live (to prevent XBL explots/abuse), and it's unlikely you'll even be able to sync the phone with the Zune desktop software. It will be useless.

Furthermore, efforts to port WP7 on the HD2 have a major advantage in that the WP7 launch devices are at least using the same processor. A full set of drivers would be required for it to boot on the iPhone, which really, just isn't going to happen.

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Matthew S.

Don't forget the fact that WP7 is closed source >.>

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+warwagon

Never say never in technology. Remember the amount of people that said n64 emulation would NEVER be possible. Then one day UltraHLE appeared out of nowhere.

Remember when they said you wouldn't be able to run a Power PC OSX on Windows? Then out of know where Pearpc appeared (Then of course he got creamed by a car) but still. So never say something will never happen.

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fix-this!

Any news on anyone porting the wp7 os to iphone, you know like what they did with android?

it won't happen at all. it's more locked down than the iphone is. if anything hopefully android can be ported to wp7. i do know devs at xda are in the process of porting webos to the hero and evo, now that im excited about!

Never say never in technology. Remember the amount of people that said n64 emulation would NEVER be possible. Then one day UltraHLE appeared out of nowhere.

Remember when they said you wouldn't be able to run a Power PC OSX on Windows? Then out of know where Pearpc appeared (Then of course he got creamed by a car) but still. So never say something will never happen.

the iphone os was never ported to any device and either will wp7 os.

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Raa

Don't forget the fact that WP7 is closed source >.>

So was WM6.5 :p

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fix-this!

So was WM6.5 :p

yeah but it was never ported to a non windows mobile phone. it was unlocked and thats it.

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Prince Charming

Don't forget the fact that WP7 is closed source >.>

Well, WP7 itself is closed source, but CE6.0R3's source is all available under a shared-source license, and is extremely well documented, so stuff like its driver model is very open. Despite that, it's just not going to happen, sorry :)

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SMELTN

so basically what your saying is WP7 is about the same as iPhone. Completely locked down

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Prince Charming

so basically what your saying is WP7 is about the same as iPhone. Completely locked down

Absolutely, it's a fully locked down and controlled environment. This is a good thing.

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GayWolf

Absolutely, it's a fully locked down and controlled environment. This is a good thing.

Why is that such a good thing? In my phone I would like to install applications other than the ones provided at the online store, free applications. How is that a good thing for the user not to have that freedom?

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Calum

Don't forget the fact that WP7 is closed source >.>

You say that as if it is a bad thing...

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Raa

This is a good thing.

No, it is not.

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Calum

Why is that such a good thing? In my phone I would like to install applications other than the ones provided at the online store, free applications. How is that a good thing for the user not to have that freedom?

With Windows Phone 7, you are able to install free applications, as long as the developer wishes them to be free. To allow one to install applications for free, when the developer would prefer one to pay, would be stupid.

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GayWolf

With Windows Phone 7, you are able to install free applications, as long as the developer wishes them to be free. To allow one to install applications for free, when the developer would prefer one to pay, would be stupid.

So basically you've just called "stupid" to the entire open source community. Pretty "smart" thing to say.

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Stetson

So basically you've just called "stupid" to the entire open source community. Pretty "smart" thing to say.

What? You aren't making any sense. He was talking about installing apps for free when the developer wants to charge money. Generally the deal with open source is that the developers choose not to charge money. Open source doesn't have anything to do with free or paid apps.

Installing an app without paying for it when the developer charges money for it isn't called open source, it's called piracy.

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GayWolf

What? You aren't making any sense. He was talking about installing apps for free when the developer wants to charge money. Generally the deal with open source is that the developers choose not to charge money. Open source doesn't have anything to do with free or paid apps.

Installing an app without paying for it when the developer charges money for it isn't called open source, it's called piracy.

My bad, it seemed as if he was saying that free application authors were "stupid".

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CheckOne

So basically you've just called "stupid" to the entire open source community. Pretty "smart" thing to say.

I don't think that's what he said at all. He called allowing a user to pirate software "stupid"... Open source developers, as far as I'm aware, want the software to be free. If a developer does not wish their software to be free, it should not be able to be installed for free. A rather simple idea really... If a developer on WP7 wants their app to be free, it will be available for download from the App Store for free...

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GayWolf

I don't think that's what he said at all. He called allowing a user to pirate software "stupid"... Open source developers, as far as I'm aware, want the software to be free. If a developer does not wish their software to be free, it should not be able to be installed for free. A rather simple idea really... If a developer on WP7 wants their app to be free, it will be available for download from the App Store for free...

If I understand correctly (and correct me if I'm wrong), developers have to pay an annual subscription of $99 USD to develop apps (5 apps max). That fee rules out many of the free applications.

"With an annual subscription of $99 USD, you’ll get the best of both worlds"

"Submit up to five free apps to Windows Phone Marketplace, additional submissions are $19.99 USD"

http://create.msdn.com/en-us/home/membership

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Prince Charming

So basically you've just called "stupid" to the entire open source community. Pretty "smart" thing to say.

So basically you failed to read or comprehend what he said.

If a developer intends an app to be paid, and it is available for free, this is a bad thing (generally, we call this software piracy). The developer is missing out of sales, leads to loss of confidence in the platform less development in general. If the developer wants the app to be free and it is free, this is fine. There is no reason you can't release open source software on WP7, and indeed, a few apps have been already been released which are also open source.

For the $99 fee you are able to submit as many paid apps as you want, and 5 free apps (per year). This is because running the certification tests and managing the system costs money to run. With the 70:30 revenue split on paid apps, they cover their own costs for certification, whereas free apps still cost money to test and certificate, without any return to MS or the developer, hence, they're limited. Running the system costs money.

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CheckOne

I don't think that's what he said at all. He called allowing a user to pirate software "stupid"... Open source developers, as far as I'm aware, want the software to be free. If a developer does not wish their software to be free, it should not be able to be installed for free. A rather simple idea really... If a developer on WP7 wants their app to be free, it will be available for download from the App Store for free...

It hasn't. As there are free apps in the marketplace now... Quite a few of them actually. But whether there are free apps or not, piracy is still not acceptable...

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Southern Patriot

If I understand correctly (and correct me if I'm wrong), developers have to pay an annual subscription of $99 USD to develop apps (5 apps max). That fee rules out many of the free applications.

"With an annual subscription of $99 USD, you?ll get the best of both worlds"

"Submit up to five free apps to Windows Phone Marketplace, additional submissions are $19.99 USD"

http://create.msdn.com/en-us/home/membership

There are similar conditions for the iPhone app store as well (not including the requirement that you have a Mac to do development on) and yet there are thousands of free apps there, with new ones every day. Your argument holds no water at all.

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