bangbang023 Veteran Posted July 31, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 31, 2003 I just got cable access and hooked up the computers in my house to the router. I do not have a network, though. I can not, however, direct connect on AIM or send files, through AIM, to my sister on one of the other computers. I have Norton Firewall but even disabled we can't connect. Is there some way we can share files or at least ge tAIM to work right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted July 31, 2003 Veteran Share Posted July 31, 2003 Question #1: How do you have the computers in your house hooked up to a router and NOT have a network? Looks like duck, sounds like duck... Question #2 (although I don't know why): Can you ping the other computers? Go to the C: prompt. type "ipconfig" and learn what your IP address is. go to another computer. go to the C: prompt. type "ping" plus space plus the IP address from the first computer. What do you get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoSigma Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 This makes no sense. If you want to share files try running network setup wizard or check to make sure you set special application in the router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 ure network sharing should work... however.. if you want to take the easy way out and use AIM.. .make sure u have the latest version on both... then go into ur setting for AIM.. go under file transfer/setting and check off the bottom option where is says something about the AOL adapter... u should be able to transfer files using AIM after that.. even with a firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted July 31, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted July 31, 2003 i don't have a network because I didn't want to set it up. I have the cable modem plugged into the router and thats' it. The router provides the connections to the PC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 i don't have a network because I didn't want to set it up. I have the cable modem plugged into the router and thats' it. The router provides the connections to the PC's. You already have a network, once you set up a router your computer are networked via the Routers Switch. Make sure they're on the same workgroup. oh and btw ditch the software firewalls you have, they're useless now that you have a router. Make sure each PC has the following installed. Client for Microsoft Networks Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) File & Printer Sharing. Also make sure on both PC's that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled. (Y) thats all there is to it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted August 1, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted August 1, 2003 xstaindx, how do I go about setting the workgroups and all? sorry but I'm a complete n00b at networking stuff I just never had a chance to work with it before. as far as the software firewall, it's actually blocked quite a few inbound attempts by some IP's in germany so I thinkI'll keep it for now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted August 1, 2003 Veteran Share Posted August 1, 2003 control panel > system. on the "computer name" tab, click change. there is a box to specify the workgroup for that computer. make sure both computers are in the same workgroup, it will just make things easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markus Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I think the first to do is make sure that both computers are on the same subnet for instance: if you are using ip's 192.168.0.x with a subnet of 255.255.255.0 then both computers should have a similar format. usualy by default routers have a subnet mask of 255.0.0.0 with an ip of 10.0.0.x. so in this case the pc's should have there ip's set to : 10.0.0.3 and 10.0.0.4 (just an example). and both their subnet masks set to 255.0.0.0. Although it is adviced that they are both in the same workgroup as gameguy explained its not really necessary to do so and wont effect anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted August 1, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted August 1, 2003 (edited) yea hthe subnets and ip's are all correct ok, thanks guys, I can see all the systems here on the network so it's no problem Edited August 1, 2003 by bangbang023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markus Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 what Instant messenger are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 xstaindx, how do I go about setting the workgroups and all? sorry but I'm a complete n00b at networking stuff I just never had a chance to work with it before.as far as the software firewall, it's actually blocked quite a few inbound attempts by some IP's in germany so I thinkI'll keep it for now lol. Get rid of it, It will cause your Networking issues. Those inbound attmpts where made by requests by some software on your pc, whether you did it or not. e Once behind a NAT Router a Firewall is pointless. You already have one within the router. Make sure you set the router up to not allow Ping (ICMP Request) aka "Block WAN Request" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted August 1, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted August 1, 2003 thanks xstaindx you were right as usual. thank you for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 You're welcome. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted August 2, 2003 Veteran Share Posted August 2, 2003 Once behind a NAT Router a Firewall is pointless. You already have one within the router. I wouldn't say that at all. While a properly configured NAT does a decent job of preventing access TO your computer from the outside world it does little to nothing to prevent unwanted outbound access. Since it does not prevent access that was initiated by your computer it could open you up to privacy concerns or risk of data loss from Trojans (and possible from Worms and Viruses if your AV software isn't up to snuff). Good software firewalls filter both inbound and outbound data flow. Now all that being said, I don't bother with a software firewall because I don't think it's worth the bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 as far as the software firewall, it's actually blocked quite a few inbound attempts by some IP's in germany so I thinkI'll keep it for now lol. Dude, you're just setting yourself up to be screwed if you're still getting 'hit' by German sites. That means that your router is not configured properly. I'd spend $40 and call someone who has a clue..... :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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