simm_isengard Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 Is there any way to setup a two computer network, without a router? I heard about it somewhere, but dont know if it is possible. I got a Soyo K7V motherboard with built in LAN, and I have an extra network card, but like I said I dont know if it is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercuryx013 Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 You need a crossover cable. It will connect both workstations with a hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simm_isengard Posted August 5, 2003 Author Share Posted August 5, 2003 no not like that, I want to run the net also on both, like from the cable modem to computer no. 1 then from a network card installed on the same computer to the second PC. Is that possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 no not like that, I want to run the net also on both, like from the cable modem to computer no. 1 then from a network card installed on the same computer to the second PC.Is that possible? You need 3 NIC Cards and enable Internet Connection Sharing. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCKing Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 or use the USB if thats possible... Xover between the 2 pc's and cable modem to to a pc via USB... you would also need to make sure that if your ISP has dynamic IP's then it may not work... only 1 might have inet access... thats the whole point of the router! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simm_isengard Posted August 5, 2003 Author Share Posted August 5, 2003 xStainDx, now how would I do that with 3 nic cards? exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorpheux Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 2 cards in the comp recieving the cable, one for cable and one for crossover cable then the 3rd card in the other comp for the other end of the crossover cable and yeah, make sure you get IP stuff figured out...i've never set up a network like this, but it cant be too hard (famous last words....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 What he said, the IPs will figure themselves out. The NIC to the cable modem will get the IP from that, the other NIC in that computer will be assigned 192.168.0.1 from Internet Connection Sharing and the NIC in the other computer will be assigned 192.168.0.X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Player Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 Crossover cable from computer A to computer B 2nd nic in computer A connects to internet Turn on internet connection sharing viola! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 Downside to ICS is that you'll have to leave the Host computer on all the time for the Slave PC to access the net. When you can afford it, get a Cable/DSL Router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorpheux Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 Downside to ICS is that you'll have to leave the Host computer on all the time for the Slave PC to access the net.When you can afford it, get a Cable/DSL Router. true, i forgot about that....so you have 3 choices: 1. Don't plan on being online with the slave pc a whole lot 2. Make the host pc able to have pretty good uptimes (install a good OS like windows 2000, keep adware/virii/other crap off of it, etc) 3. Get some old crap computer, install windows 2000 on it and make it's sole purpose in this universe to be a router... personally, i chose number 3 for my home because 1 and 2 wouldnt have really worked out too well....do whatever you think is best for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krome Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 To make the main box act as a router, you need ISA Server and Windows 2000 or Windows 2003... Then you have to promote the master box to become a domain controller... don't allow domain controller access to client loggons... The master or the main server has to be on top of the domain forest... Then you have to allow the loggons through Microsoft Active Directory... It's not all that complicated if you read some info.. but there are hundredths and hundredths of steps to avoid when you are running an Active Directory... After everything is set up, install an Anti-Virus software... After that you want to put the computer on Security Lockdown... The computer is pretty much secured at this level... Just like a router... but there's tons of configurations... if you miss one, better wait for doomsday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 To make the main box act as a router, you need ISA Server and Windows 2000 or Windows 2003... Then you have to promote the master box to become a domain controller... don't allow domain controller access to client loggons... The master or the main server has to be on top of the domain forest... Then you have to allow the loggons through Microsoft Active Directory... It's not all that complicated if you read some info.. but there are hundredths and hundredths of steps to avoid when you are running an Active Directory... After everything is set up, install an Anti-Virus software... After that you want to put the computer on Security Lockdown... The computer is pretty much secured at this level... Just like a router... but there's tons of configurations... if you miss one, better wait for doomsday... Or you could enable ICS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krome Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 Enabling ICS is not adviseable... not secured... ICS must be disabled if you network the way I decribe it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 Enabling ICS is not adviseable... not secured... ICS must be disabled if you network the way I decribe it... Not advisable by who? It's perfectly secure if you enable ICF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krome Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 When you configure to be highly secured, MS will disable the ICS... There will be a conflict... the ISA Server has it's own ICS and ICF... ISA will disable those appropraitely based on how secured you want your main server to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 I was saying use ICS with ICF instead of ISA Server. Because the thread starter is a home user and not apart of any large network such as a corporation he would have no use for ISA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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