Davo Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Just because they could sue in no way means they didnt see another opportunity to make money. This is true but putting together a book over seven years with something that's going to be met with a lot of controversy is a tougher battle than going after a doctor that misdiagnosed a child's near-fatality. I'm not gonna say the story isn't true as I'm a believer of almost all things Christian, but children do have creative minds and pastors coaching their children is something I've seen happen a lot. Knowing about Revelation or having superficial details about a miscarriage is not unthinkable. I'm gonna feel terrible if I get this wrong, but I'm also sure that John the Baptist is the only person who has seen God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfirth Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Over time his visions became more believable. This part concerns me the most. What do you mean over time the visions became more believable? Sounds like they probably changed and evolved. He might even believe it's true - false memories are alarmingly easy to create. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation http://www.unisci.com/stories/20012/0613011.htm http://www.abc.net.au/health/minutes/stories/2003/03/05/798577.htm http://io9.com/#!5704674/brain-damage-might-actually-create-fake-memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 When I go to sleep sometimes I'm a cyborg. I guess that's real too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 It appears that there's a sucker (or 500000) born every minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdog666al Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 **** man, that's proof enough for me! brb jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom1981 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I have been on my death bed twice. Doctors never figured out what was wrong. When your brain is in a state like that it does weird things. I was in a very deep coma but towards the end when i was coming out of it I would see my sister looking different. I would see weird lights. NOt heaven I can see how ou could think heaven. I was able to here things around me BUT not talk or move. It was like my brain was partly functioning. I am thinking this is what happen to this boy not heaven. Your brain is still not known to doctors and doctors only knows what happens when your dying or in deep coma only by what people like me who have lived through it have told them . All what that boy saw is what his brain showed him or partly showed him. HE probably heard his parents talking about the other things at his bed side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 This is true but putting together a book over seven years with something that's going to be met with a lot of controversy is a tougher battle than going after a doctor that misdiagnosed a child's near-fatality. I'm not gonna say the story isn't true as I'm a believer of almost all things Christian, but children do have creative minds and pastors coaching their children is something I've seen happen a lot. Knowing about Revelation or having superficial details about a miscarriage is not unthinkable. I'm gonna feel terrible if I get this wrong, but I'm also sure that John the Baptist is the only person who has seen God. Please, there are a ton of people that will buy into it. Dont forget his dad is a pastor, there are a flock of people right there. Controversy sells too, just look at this "500,000 copies of the book have been printed and there are now talks of a movie." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 So what are dead baby fetus souls like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Please, there are a ton of people that will buy into it. Dont forget his dad is a pastor, there are a flock of people right there. Controversy sells too, just look at this "500,000 copies of the book have been printed and there are now talks of a movie." There's definitely gonna be people who buy it without question because they treat Christianity like it's the X-Files. I'd have to think that they really believe this to be truth though because you know that if this gets popular, there will be people working hard to debunk it. My point is that purposely creating a fake story has far more risk than their original option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoko Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 "Now Colton's stories of Heaven are documented in a book titled "Heaven is for Real." 500,000 copies of the book have been printed and there are now talks of a movie. " That's all you need to know right there. :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 There's definitely gonna be people who buy it without question because they treat Christianity like it's the X-Files. I'd have to think that they really believe this to be truth though because you know that if this gets popular, there will be people working hard to debunk it. My point is that purposely creating a fake story has far more risk than their original option. They could have still lost the case against the doctors, thats not a 100% win. With this story, there isnt anyone that can dispute their claims, nothing to fight against other then you just dont buy in to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Saying 500,000 were printed is what you say when the sales are pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nub Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 My mind has gone to some seriously crazy places when I've been sick. Also kids pick up a lot more than parents know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 FWIW, this book has been written before. This is the best known example: http://www.amazon.com/Life-After-Investigation-Phenomenon--Survival-Bodily/dp/0062517392/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1298948287&sr=1-5 But there are plenty out there. None, as far as I can remember, are so specific as to mention Jesus and unborn children. Hence my somewhat sarcastic comment before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaneHusky Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 A coworker loaned this book to me to read. I read it with a skeptical mind because I've long been questioning the faith that I grew up with. A someone with a more open and scientific mind, I can say that this book is a very interesting read to say the least. While I don't believe everything in it to be 100% true, it does introduce some pretty cool things... if they are true. That is the question. The whole time I was reading this, knowing how a child's mind works, I couldn't help but think, "oh this kid could have easily heard these things in Sunday school or something, even though his father claims he hadn't learned of them yet." There is no proof that these claims are real. Without knowing this family, I can't trust them - especially being a pastor's family. For all I know, this could be a publicity stunt. Or maybe it really is true. I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurë Veteran Posted March 16, 2011 Veteran Share Posted March 16, 2011 If the child was in a hospital bed, he was in a hospital bed. You can't have your consciousness/mind separated from your physical brain. You die if your body becomes unable to provide your brain with oxygen and nutrients and your consciousness/mind etc go with it. We know this because brain damage can alter a person's memories and personality. Without a working brain you can not have a mind or consciousness. No one expects software to run with no hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnsonBox Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Hoho. Armageddon! I've seen similar stuff in China. All Christian propaganda, no doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnsonBox Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 If the child was in a hospital bed, he was in a hospital bed. You can't have your consciousness/mind separated from your physical brain. You die if your body becomes unable to provide your brain with oxygen and nutrients and your consciousness/mind etc go with it. We know this because brain damage can alter a person's memories and personality. Without a working brain you can not have a mind or consciousness. No one expects software to run with no hardware. This "heaven journey" is one of the kinds of near death experience. Anyone who is interested in such stuff can find such material in psychological books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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