Rogo Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Can you all tell what you think is the best Anti-Virus software that i can download online, i dont want something like a 15 day free trial, i want something that will not expire please help, and thank you in advance :D Rogo :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Hummer Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 give avg a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ryuh3d Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Most companies offer free online scanners. http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/co...n_principal.htm That might help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 semifamous Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 AVG Link for the Google-deficient http://www.grisoft.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 uniacidz Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Avoid AVG like its the plague, its very basic in catching bad things Avast is probably the best of the free versions. http://www.avast.com/i_idt_153.html Antivir is ok also http://www.free-av.com/ AVG is so so http://www.grisoft.com/ Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Garrett Socling Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 give avg a try. Here is another vote for AVG. I can't think of a single bad thing to say about AVG. Its good stuff. G EDIT : I haven't had a virus in about 10 years (think the last one I had was from a floppy). Davey, could you post some examples so I can try out AVG? Now you have me all concerned :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rogo Posted September 3, 2003 Author Share Posted September 3, 2003 thanks all, im very gratefull :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 uniacidz Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Here is another vote for AVG.I can't think of a single bad thing to say about AVG. Its good stuff. G EDIT : I haven't had a virus in about 10 years (think the last one I had was from a floppy). Davey, could you post some examples so I can try out AVG? Now you have me all concerned :0 I can send via email(PM me with email address and i will send) live samples in zip files i use for testing (under strict and secure testing of the zip files) or i can provide a independent testing done to most AV Scanners showing the very same examples in which AVG and others faulter. Hackfix Independent Antivirus Testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Redestium Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 I've heard this debate over and over, and from what I've found you get what you pay for. When security matters I'd like the peace of mind that a paid for AV program would give me over a free, but maybe I'm naive. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jon Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Here is another vote for AVG.I can't think of a single bad thing to say about AVG.? Its good stuff. G EDIT : I haven't had a virus in about 10 years (think the last one I had was from a floppy).? Davey, could you post some examples so I can try out AVG?? Now you have me all concerned :0 I can send via email(PM me with email address and i will send) live samples in zip files i use for testing (under strict and secure testing of the zip files) or i can provide a independent testing done to most AV Scanners showing the very same examples in which AVG and others faulter. Hackfix Independent Antivirus Testing Davey stop offering to send people trojans, and for the love of god, accept that AVG is an ANTIVIRUS program, not an antiTROJAN program. -The link you've provided tests trojan detection. antiVIRUS applications detect trojans as a bonus. -Trojans are avoided using common sense, as they dont self replicate. -Viruses can't be so easily protected against. Viruses fall into several catagories, but they can be grouped. Viruses+worms, and then trojans. Detection of trojans is FAR from necessary, especially when common sense and personal firewalls are employed. I respect some security related things you've posted Davey, but this constant bad mouthing campaign against a FREE, respected antiVIRUS product is anal. My recommendation: AVG, but be aware it isn't written to detect trojans, only viruses+worms, and it does that AS WELL AS ANY COMMERCIAL PRODUCT. (Yes, AntiVirus is my job.... I have experience, a lot of it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 uniacidz Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 I've heard this debate over and over, and from what I've found you get what you pay for. When security matters I'd like the peace of mind that a paid for AV program would give me over a free, but maybe I'm naive. *shrugs* I agree. Nothin will pick up viruses and trojans like a paid one will do. Simply cos its their business to have a superior AV Scanner over its competitors. Save up and buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 uniacidz Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Davey stop offering to send people trojans, and for the love of god, accept that AVG is an ANTIVIRUS program, not an antiTROJAN program.>post snipped< I respect some security related things you've posted Davey, but this constant bad mouthing campaign against a FREE, respected antiVIRUS product is anal. First of all, he asked. I didnt offer. He asked and i told him i could. So get that straight. Second of all, AVG is not a very good product overall. Simple as that. Has a crap detection rate which is simply not good enough. Not only in the testing i have submitted but in other A good overall package should have a good detection rate, if it doesnt, then you are playing a game of Russian Roulette. Why have a product that only does half the job? Avast is far better and free. Jon, you also say it does not detect Trojans. Funny that. AVG Anti-Virus ... of Worm/Kabak, I-Worm/Woff, I-Worm/Winpat, I-Worm/Upering, Worm/Gotorm, Worm/Binlad, Worm/Sany and new variants of I-Worm/Dumaru, I-Worm/Cult, trojan Downloader.Dluca, trojan IRC/BackDoor.SdBot. - August 28, 2003 - Update AVG 7.0 - AVI 259.11.3 and Update AVG 6.0 - 512 Added detection ... http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_history.php 09/03/03, 15282 bytes AVG Anti-Virus ... .11.7 and Update AVG 6.0 - 515 Added detection of Worm/Raleka, Worm/Franvir and new variants of Worm/Lovsan, Worm/Spybot, Worm/Rootbot, Worm/Randon, trojan IRC/BackDoor.SdBot. - September 1, 2003 - Program Update AVG 7.0 - 7.0.167 It contains new changes with respect to the remote administration ... http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php?ses...ddc1dff98c55760 09/03/03, 8940 bytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jon Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Doesn't detect trojans as a PRIORITY you gonk, I thought you were smart enough to realise that. Virus/Worm detection is comparatively easy thanks to things like the wildlist (RIP), but trojans have no similar repository. It takes serious effort to research them, as any piece of software could be a trojan in the wrong environment. THATS why the free version is stunning for viruses (as it uses the same very-reputed-amung-VXers engine and (virus) sigs), but doesn't have the features that cost grisoft serious manhours... trojan detection en mass. Every test that is respected and trusted in the industry scores the same when it comes to Viruses and Worms, if you had experience you'd know that its almost taken forgranted that all large AV products perform within 99% of each other. When we deal with AV sales men at work they NEVER quote detection rates, because they are all so good that its irrelevent. Selling points include technologies that expand beyond the signature method of detection (heuristics,bloodhoud, behavior modeling etc), management capabilities, deployment options and things like suitability for remote users on slow links. The people with a clue at work us AVG, because they all have solid firewall configurations (no default 'allow this app' rules thankyou) and know that should they have a lapse of common sense and download a trojan, it couldn't do anything. The people without a clue use fluffy pretty apps like Norton. Its an antivirus product, by DEFINITION a trojan isn't a virus. Its malware (which may be the PAYLOAD of a virus). AVG isn't a anti-malware product. But of course, your a smart guy so you already know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 uniacidz Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Doesn't detect trojans as a PRIORITY you gonk, I thought you were smart enough to realise that.> post snipped < I see that in the process of having a discussion you decided upon yourself that you would throw in a couple of personal insults just for good cause. Nice one, lol. You have to be the biggest AVG fanboy i have come across in my life. You take the award hands down for being the most openly defensive person towards anyone that is to say AVG is a bad product. Maybe you are missing the whole point, you yourself said while you at work behind a great firewall that AVG is a good product yadda yadda yadda, well, dont you think that for general home usage for persons whom do not have the same experience as yourself that AVG being a product that only does certain scanning that this is below what to be expected by ANY decent detection program and that to say/recommend to use products that do have a better overall detection of all malware, worms and viruses? Im still baffled by your inept ability to accept that AVG i believe is not the greatest product on this earth and that you cannot fathom that someone out there such as myself does not agree with what you say and hence start minor insults and go way off topic. Whats the go with that? All i have done is answered the questions asked by me about free scanners as the original poster asked for our opinions and yet when someone claims that a product, which you seem to be highly defensive about, isnt the greated thing siince slice bread, you get all weird and go off topic. I try to be unbiased in all the answers i put forward but it seems as though you havent been able to do so. I also try not to insult someone even when some other 'gonk' is insulting myself or others as im beyond that stupidity. I am one for an open discussion about anything, but its hard when someone has the stubborness such as yourself to not see beyond your own inadequate abilities and see that not all products or beliefs you have are the same shared with others and to accept those other persons beliefs/thoughts, out of respect to the other person even though you may not share the same beliefs/thoughts. I for one used to respect alot of the things you have said and agreed with them but some others i do not and accept that you have your own opinion but since this is not the first time you have been a ass towards myself and others at other times in these forums, i really have to say i have lost all respect for you. Other senior members here have the ability to be able to converse a wide range or subjects with their own beliefs and thoughts and i respect them no end, but you are one in a million, the black swan if you may and i now have to agree with some of the others out there that you are as 'ass' End of rant, end of participation from myself in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jon Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Did you actually want to make any points in that post, or were you just going to whine like a baby? Its a poor show when you loose an arguement so start moaning about personal insults, you've just posted an essay with no content of note or consiquence. AVG is the best free antiVIRUS product at the moment. Its that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 John Veteran Posted September 3, 2003 Veteran Share Posted September 3, 2003 :huh: i just wanna say that... :s um... a good anti-virus is also a good anti-trojan :yes: *runs from the flames* :rofl: :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jon Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Indeed, but if you want something thats good at everything, then you should expect to pay for it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 JynX78 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Another vote for avg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 uniacidz Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Did you actually want to make any points in that post, or were you just going to whine like a baby?Its a poor show when you loose an arguement so start moaning about personal insults, you've just posted an essay with no content of note or consiquence. AVG is the best free antiVIRUS product at the moment. Its that simple. Lose an arguement? LOLOLOL You amuse me no end. Maybe i have to spell it out for you or maybe you should read it again. read below. As gameguy just stated what i already stated and in which you agreed on, a good product should have good anti-trojan and in previous posts i gave other products that do have that good anti-trojan detection. That was my original point i made and yet once reiterated by someone else, you agree to it. AVG IS NOT A OVERALL GREAT PRODUCT and there are better ones out there IMHO. Sheesh man, you amuse me no end. Please keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jon Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Davey, should I ignore your comment about not posting in this thread any more then? Question: What is the title of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Redestium Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Did you actually want to make any points in that post, or were you just going to whine like a baby?Its a poor show when you loose an arguement so start moaning about personal insults, you've just posted an essay with no content of note or consiquence. AVG is the best free antiVIRUS product at the moment. Its that simple. What are the advantages of the pay version of AVG? What would your recommendation be for best AV program overall (pay or free)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 dax_45331 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Avg is the best! I bought The full version of Norton and in 6months time I got 4 virus and it picked up 3. But it didn't help me get rid of them so I went to houscalls and they helped me get rid of them. The 4 one was a trojan and it didn't see it but housecalls did. And yes I had all the latest updates. I updated at least 3 times a day. Where my mom works at they run the corperate version and they always have a virus. Plus if Tech TV says that AVG is a great anti-virus program you better listen to Leo Laport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Heathen Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 With AVG... you get what you pay for?!! :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jon Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Most (big name) commercial AV products have almost identical detection rates for worms and viruses, you should base the descision on the support base, the speed/frequency of updates/upgrades, and how buggy the GUI is. I manage McAfee products on 3500 workstations and 100+ servers, and its pretty good, BUT its coded with an office environment in mind (ie: resources to spare) so I wouldn't say its the most efficient. Norton is bloated but great for normal home users who just dont give a sh1t and want an easy to use app that protects them. Kaspersky AV products are amazing, I worked with their linux engine for my thesis, it helped no end. I honestly can't remember the significant advantages of the pay-for version of AVG, its never been enough to take my interest (I'm licensed to use McAfee at home via work, but stick with AVG, its unintrusive, simple, and stable. McAfee code isn't overly stable ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 uniacidz Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Davey, should I ignore your comment about not posting in this thread any more then?Question: What is the title of this thread? I retract my comment on the participation. As for your question, i have to reiterate it to you again, AVAST. As for AVG paid or free. Paid has the extras listed in red bold. Download, install and use AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition and get: AVG Resident Protection AVG Email Scanner AVG On-Demand Scanner Basic Scheduled Tests Free Virus Database Updates Automatic Update feature Easy-To-Use Interface Automatic Healing of infected files AVG Virus Vault for safe handling of infected files Basic user Interface only Disabled Advanced Scheduling of Tests Disabled Creating of Your Own Tests No Technical Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 neuralshock Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 A vote for Avast. IMO, the best free anti-virus around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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please help, and thank you in advance :D
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