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ATi CCC won't start at startup but....


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As many of you have read I have a clean install if Windows 7. All I have ever done to it now is install my prgrams such as Office, Adobe and things I use for work etc.. Nothing unusual so there are no tweaks or OS changes at all. For some reason, and this has happened in the past with some of my other attempts to install Windows 7 cleanly, ATI's CCC (Catalyst Control Panel) stopped running at startup. The command is still there in MSCONFIG and I even tried adding the command to the startup folder but it never runs at startup. Now if I wait till everything is loaded and I am at a working desktop and run the command it starts just fine. I rely on CCC running in the background and being there ASAP when I click on it so I need to get it to run at startup.

Yes I have exhausted my google searches and the brunt of the suggestions, even from ATI, says to uninstall the drivers, run Driversweeper x64 in safemode reboot and reinstall the drivers. Other than running Driversweeper I have reinstalled, istalled over and "repaired" the driver installation 7 times with no luck. I was just looking for the famous pearls of wisdom I get when I post here.

Hoping you can help me out with this.

Thanks,

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Ensure you have the latest MS .NET framework installed. If not, install it. If so, try uninstalling the .NET Framework and re-install.

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Does CCC run as a service? If so, you could set it to launch "Automatically, delayed". Had to do this with my Wacom tablet driver, been working perfect ever since. :)

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Ensure you have the latest MS .NET framework installed. If not, install it. If so, try uninstalling the .NET Framework and re-install.

Accoring to Microsoft's dotnet checker I have all versions (2.0 - 4.0 full) installed. Do I need to unuinstall ALL of them?

Thanks,

Does CCC run as a service? If so, you could set it to launch "Automatically, delayed". Had to do this with my Wacom tablet driver, been working perfect ever since. :)

No there is no service that I can see of.

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Oh here we go. It's making a liar out of me. I did a little poking around i.e... looking for app errors etc in the event logs re-ran microsots DotNet install checker nothing very intrusive and then rebooted and it ran on startup fine. That seems to be the actual issue, sometimes it loads, sometimes it won't. It's like something else is loading at startup that "occasionaly" prevents CCC from loading completely. I should add this machine has the FULL version of DotNet 4.0 and I read once that the full version can cause issues with programs that run at startup. I guess if worse comes to worse I will ust put the shortcut that is in MSCONFOG on the desktop and run it after all is installed. I would really like to get to the bottom of this. Maybe I will keep doing the google thing, maybe I will come across another users fix. Any other thoughts?

Thanks,

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A Microsoft tech on Technet suggested I install C++ 2005 SP1 x64, which I did, and for the past 3 reboots it has loaded fine. I guess time wll tell.

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My next suggestion was for you to install Visual C++ Redistributable. Looks like MS beat me to it. :) Glad to see you got it fixed.

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It stopped loading at startup again. If I run the command line well after bootup it come up fine. Short of reinstalling the drivers AGAIN, is there someway I can run that command line at startup with a delay to let whatever is stopping it load first.

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It stopped loading at startup again. If I run the command line well after bootup it come up fine. Short of reinstalling the drivers AGAIN, is there someway I can run that command line at startup with a delay to let whatever is stopping it load first.

Thanks,

For now I created a task running that command line exactly one minute after boot up. Seems to be working so far.

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For now I created a task running that command line exactly one minute after boot up. Seems to be working so far.

8+ reboots and the task is working great. I have it running a batch file so there is a momentary dos type windoe that flashes. Is there anyway to get rid of this?

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I'm just thinking along here, but is there a way to set the batch file as "run minimized"? You'd still see a small flash on the taskbar but no window if I'm correct. Again, just a thought.

A better way would be to create a custom service in Windows which is set to "auto delay on startup", but you needed some extra tools for that. Reskit I presumed...

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I'm just thinking along here, but is there a way to set the batch file as "run minimized"? You'd still see a small flash on the taskbar but no window if I'm correct. Again, just a thought.

A better way would be to create a custom service in Windows which is set to "auto delay on startup", but you needed some extra tools for that. Reskit I presumed...

Doesn't matter. It stopped working anyway. Any suggestions?

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This is more of a work around, but maybe get rid of CCC (only install the display driver) and use something like ATi Tray Tools?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Tray_Tools . Does everything CCC does and more, always worked wonders for me.

None of any of the available ATI "tray tool" Applications work because I use the latest drivers and they all screw up somehow and complaing on install that they were not tested with the drivers I use. Most of them just do nothing. CCC is the only thing that works to adjust my video card settings.

Since this is the command line in question:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe" MSRun

I thought I had to run it from a batch file as a task because of the command "msrun" But the realized when I created a new task I can add extra command line entries. So I created a new task with "msrun" as an extra comand lince task and have the task delay for 2 minutes after logon.

So far again it's working

We shall see.

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Too bad Tray Tools isn't an option. Hope the scheduled task is a solution, 2 minutes should be more than sufficient. Let's hope it keeps running fine. (Y)

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^ He already formatted and installed the driver clean. Also he ran DriverSweeper x64 according to his OP.

Yes I did all that BUT I did it it again since I had an install error last time. It apparenty tried to intall C++ 2010 over itself and Windows beefed about it. All other parts of the install went fine. Still wasn't loading at startup. SO I re-ran C++ 2005 & 2010 SP1's and did a repair then installed C++ 2008 & SP1. Now it is loading again BUT who knows for how long. I will keep you posted. BTW, right now it is only loading via Registry setting as shown in MSCONFIG. I removed all the other attempts at fixing this. I want to get it to run as it should.

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Well yet again it stopped loading with Windows. Any further thoughts besides hitting Google again for hours on end?

Ati Support is useless they never respond to tickets and the forums are even worse.

Well I appreciate anyones input on this.

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Ok, here is what I did this time. I added Exceptions to my AV, Firewall and Windows Defender to the four files required, CCC.exe, CLI.exe, CLIstart.exe and MOM.exe. So far with 3 restarts it is loading fine. It was suggested on the Microsoft technet site to change the properties of each file to run as admin but that caused 4 seperate pop ups from UAC and was just too much. Besides this should work otherwise. Since this seems to be a VERY intermitant problem I still think something, perhaps dotnet 4.0 full I've read? From allowing the CCC from loading fully. Still befuddled and looking for ideas.

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@ OP -

1. uninstall CCC and ATI packages

2. reboot into safe mode

3. run 'Driver Sweeper' - Website link

4. check ATI/catalyst box

5. reboot and install clean driver

Sorry for the late reply. Yes I have done this several times once with the ATI suggested DriverSweeper 3.0 and twice with 2 others like Drivercleaner.net platinum (Waste of money)

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It stopped loading again. Any ideas? Is there a way I can post a list of what is loading at startup so you all can get an idea of what's going on? You think I should try to open another ATI ticket or just give in and remove the startup entry and run it manually just after startup? This SHOULD work and does work on many thousands of PC's with Windows 7 and ATI I am sure.

Out of ideas.....

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The C++ redistributable should be packaged with the drivers, you shouldn't need to install it separately.

Personally I would advise uninstalling the drivers, using a program like Guru3D driver sweeper or driver cleaner.net to clear them out, then a fresh reinstall

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Why is a big deal that this starts at all? I have disabled it on my GF's PC and have never had an issue. Don't really see what you're trying to accomplish.

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The C++ redistributable should be packaged with the drivers, you shouldn't need to install it separately.

Personally I would advise uninstalling the drivers, using a program like Guru3D driver sweeper or driver cleaner.net to clear them out, then a fresh reinstall

If you had read further up you would see I did that several times.

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Oh well in that case your C++ runtimes may be misconfigured. Tried removing them as well? (removing the ATI drivers won't remove them)

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Why is a big deal that this starts at all? I have disabled it on my GF's PC and have never had an issue. Don't really see what you're trying to accomplish.

The changes made in the 3D mode section of CCC do not take effect unless CCC.exe and MOM.exe are loaded if you run anything that uses 3D mode so ATI says. I guess I could just make a shortcut with the command line from the registries RUN entry and run it when needed. Problem is I use several apps that require 3D mode and never know exactly when I will need to use what. It's just easier to have it load at start up.

Still looking for ideas, other that reinstall again.

Oh well in that case your C++ runtimes may be misconfigured. Tried removing them as well? (removing the ATI drivers won't remove them)

Yeah, I originaly thought I could reinstall them over each other but they only gave my the option of uninstall or repair. I repaired all and no luck so I removed them all and reinstalled in order by date. Still no luck.

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